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Re: Fuego!

Postby Get Real! » Tue May 15, 2018 8:31 pm

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GreekIslandGirl wrote:I happen to believe each country should sing in their native language.

That was abandoned decades ago so there's no point in using that excuse today to undermine the Cypriot entry which mopped the floor with the competition.

As for the Greek song (since you like Greek cultural things) it was as interesting as Milti's fishing adventures... :lol:

It looks to me you fell for Fureira. :lol:

I don’t find her sexually appealing because she’s too skinny while I prefer voluptuous women, but I’m overly impressed with her performance.

I said in the past… “I envy her agent” not her boyfriend/husband.
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Get Real! » Tue May 15, 2018 8:49 pm

You know what’s funny Pyro?

A few weeks ago you were trying to “decipher” what an INSANE person was trying to say, but how can you do that when you often have problems comprehending what SANE people say? :lol:
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Re: Fuego!

Postby DT. » Tue May 15, 2018 10:25 pm

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Who bought all the Cyprus NPL's DT? I want to know who owns your asses! :lol:


Latest trade was a 4.7bn carve out of the coops NPL’s into a bad bank owned by the govt....so I guess we own our own asses 8)


Pull the other one mate! :lol:

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/FB ... U-GR-US-TR


Not sure you get how distressed debt works mate...best leave it to us pros. :wink:
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Get Real! » Tue May 15, 2018 11:20 pm

Have a good laugh... :lol:

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Re: Fuego!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue May 15, 2018 11:56 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:About the issue of exchanging 12 points that's very common in Eurovision among neighboring countries, The Scandinavians exchange 12 points between each other, Turkey with Azerbaijan just to name a few. That's one more reason it's a stupid competition.


That's right. They do - and not because they love each other's songs but because of a shared kinship. That's why I suggested Greece gave 12 points out of loyalty for Cyprus and not for this particular song because the song is not to Greek standards as I know them. Patriotism is a great uniting factor. This is why erolz was idiotic to try and argue against my reasoning but the Turkish-Invader aim is to make out there is no connection between Greece and Cyprus - divide and rule.
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 16, 2018 12:48 am

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You give me the impression you know absolutely nothing about the differences between locally born and raised Greek Cypriots and Mainland Greeks.
There's no other way for me to explain the content of your post that tries to explain the issue by the fact that people living in big towns like Athens/Sydney etc are different anyway.
No that's not the reason. The are inherited differences between locally born and raised Greek Cypriots and mainland Greeks. These differences exist EVERYWHERE not only in big towns like Athens but also, in towns of any size, in villages and the most remote areas.
And it's not only that. Our dialect is mocked and laughed at to the point nobody dares to speak Cypriot Greek.
The mere fact that every GC tries to mimic their accent and way of speaking is enough to make every GC feel uncomfortable/confused/ and unable to express himself. Then come all the other differences on top of everything.
I ve seen many GCs bursting to fights while on vocation there, for not much of a reason, making us look ridiculous and stupid.

You should discuss the issue with local GCs to understand, honestly you expats give me the impression you live on another planet.


I really do not understand. Never been treated as anything different in Greece. Never felt ridiculed in Greece.

On the contrary, I have always found Greeks to be very accommodating, and understanding. But I don't speak in a Cypriot accent either. And I don't like the Cypriot accent either. I always prefer the Greek way of talking. If someone started talking to me in full on Cypriot dialect, I would probably struggle, so imagine Greeks to struggle even more.

I don't know about mocking the Cypriot accent. I have been known to mock it every know and then, because it just doesn't sound right.

As opposed to the Canadian, American and Australian accent. I really dig Canadians because they are very clear and correct. Americans are a bit whiney, but in the Northern States they are also good.

Australian is very quirky and interesting (according to the Yanks and Canadians) who seem to love it. But there is no ridicule.

I prefer Kalamaristika! There is nothing charismatic about Kybreika in my opinion, but I don't know Kybreika much and can't appreciate it.
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 16, 2018 12:59 am

DT. wrote:
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DT. wrote:
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Who bought all the Cyprus NPL's DT? I want to know who owns your asses! :lol:


Latest trade was a 4.7bn carve out of the coops NPL’s into a bad bank owned by the govt....so I guess we own our own asses 8)


Pull the other one mate! :lol:

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/FB ... U-GR-US-TR


Not sure you get how distressed debt works mate...best leave it to us pros. :wink:


Clearly! I must have missed something DT! :lol:

BTW, what is the percentage of NPL that Cypriot investors actually bought? before, Cypriot Banks were major underwriters of Greek NPLs in Greece and about half of all loans in Cyprus by Cypriot Banks were NPL. We know how all that ended don't we?

Thing with NPL's is that they are high risk and higher return, but if there is a downturn, you are screwed again.
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 16, 2018 1:06 am

Get Real! wrote:Have a good laugh... :lol:



The advantage of this song is that it was different.

In the end, there are a lot of Eurovision anomalies. Australia came last in the televote. That suggests to me that Europeans consider Australia as an outsider.

There were other songs better than the Cypriot song and in my opinion better than the Israeli song that didn't win because they just didn't get the televote.

There really wasn't anything that was grabbing about the Cypriot entry. There was a lot of dancing and singing like it was an American pop number ala carte Beyonce crossed with Rihanna, or Grande.

Next time, it would be just better to pay Beyonce a million bucks to represent Cyprus.
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Get Real! » Wed May 16, 2018 1:18 am

Paphitis wrote:The advantage of this song is that it was different.

One could urinate on the stage and the act would definitely classify as “different” but I wouldn’t call it an advantage.

Take a look at the countless U-tube comments below any of her videos, where you’ll realize that Europe did NOT vote for this rubbish, and that the only possible explanation is vote rigging.
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Re: Fuego!

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 16, 2018 2:40 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The advantage of this song is that it was different.

One could urinate on the stage and the act would definitely classify as “different” but I wouldn’t call it an advantage.

Take a look at the countless U-tube comments below any of her videos, where you’ll realize that Europe did NOT vote for this rubbish, and that the only possible explanation is vote rigging.


The Israeli Girl didn't urinate on stage though. She put forward a pretty legitimate performance. As I said, not my taste, and I do prefer the Cypriot entry, but it appealed to a lot of people. Part of its appeal probably is because it was a strange performance. So many times, out there songs go a long way in Eurovision while the Cypriot entry didn't distinguish itself from others in any specific way.

Notoriety is a big advantage.

There were other songs too, that were better than the Cypriot Entry.

And I am not in favour of countries singing in their language or going all traditional either unless they make a real good show of it and quite often it's not and it doesn't have wide appeal either.
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