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Re: Fatih out for an election win

Postby Lordo » Tue May 21, 2019 2:22 pm

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Lordo wrote:rw of course erdogan will use it to win, and he is also thankful for anastasiades for affording him such an opporotunity. the real problem is not erdogan thought it is anastasiades. he has been told a zillion time by all concerned including the un that they cannot start drilling till either we have peace or he sits down and agrees on the resources with akinci. instead he says something woolly like he will give the tcs their share but what share exactly. just look at greece, they claim 97% of the sea and yet they have not started drilling, why? becasue they are not stupid. they understand what terggy will if they do. anastasiades thinks he can hide behind the american coreporations and drill but he will find out different. and stupid gcs will pay the price like in 1974.

stupid is stupid does.


When will you wake up?

Turkey doesnt want peace and if you are Cypriot, you should be offended that Turkey is disputing part of our EEZ. Which is clearly Cypriot in all international legal forums.

You should also be embarrassed about asking for shares when you havent / cant contribute anything to it. When the TC political leadership refuses to compensate or provide restitution to the hundreds of thousands displaced from the invasion in 1974.

Like the GC's are asking for shares.......You thick?....get a life.

Without Turkish impositions on Cyprus, there would be no problem.

Cyprus has a Turkish problem. Its as simple as that.

boy are you asleep or what.

tcs have been offering compensation in the form of exchange and who is stopping people from applying yours truely groc. in one case of a larnaca resdient, after he had agreed with the ipc in the north, the groc refused to hand over the the tc properties that were exchanged. he had to go to court in the eu to get his money and even then he was not given them, groc bought them off him at half price.


you wush to see a thicko have a butchers at the mirror once in a while.

as to cyprus having a turkish problem, you is in total sleep. few months agoakinci offered anastasiades toget together and start the talks and anastasiades asked him if he had permission from terggy to talk. he then sidestepped him and went to chavusoglu direct. now to call you thicko is actually insult to kurupetos who is real thick. at least he knows it, but you you are oblivious to your thickoness as it were.
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Re: Fatih out for an election win

Postby Kikapu » Tue May 21, 2019 5:38 pm

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Lordo wrote:rw of course erdogan will use it to win, and he is also thankful for anastasiades for affording him such an opporotunity. the real problem is not erdogan thought it is anastasiades. he has been told a zillion time by all concerned including the un that they cannot start drilling till either we have peace or he sits down and agrees on the resources with akinci. instead he says something woolly like he will give the tcs their share but what share exactly. just look at greece, they claim 97% of the sea and yet they have not started drilling, why? becasue they are not stupid. they understand what terggy will if they do. anastasiades thinks he can hide behind the american coreporations and drill but he will find out different. and stupid gcs will pay the price like in 1974.

stupid is stupid does.


When will you wake up?

Turkey doesnt want peace and if you are Cypriot, you should be offended that Turkey is disputing part of our EEZ. Which is clearly Cypriot in all international legal forums.

You should also be embarrassed about asking for shares when you havent / cant contribute anything to it. When the TC political leadership refuses to compensate or provide restitution to the hundreds of thousands displaced from the invasion in 1974.

Like the GC's are asking for shares.......You thick?....get a life.

Without Turkish impositions on Cyprus, there would be no problem.

Cyprus has a Turkish problem. Its as simple as that.

boy are you asleep or what.

tcs have been offering compensation in the form of exchange and who is stopping people from applying yours truely groc. in one case of a larnaca resdient, after he had agreed with the ipc in the north, the groc refused to hand over the the tc properties that were exchanged. he had to go to court in the eu to get his money and even then he was not given them, groc bought them off him at half price.


you wush to see a thicko have a butchers at the mirror once in a while.

as to cyprus having a turkish problem, you is in total sleep. few months agoakinci offered anastasiades toget together and start the talks and anastasiades asked him if he had permission from terggy to talk. he then sidestepped him and went to chavusoglu direct. now to call you thicko is actually insult to kurupetos who is real thick. at least he knows it, but you you are oblivious to your thickoness as it were.


1. Lordo, how can the TCs offer exchange when the GCs owned far more property than the TCs in 1974? The population ratio was around 80%-20% in favour for the GCs.
2. Akinci has nothing to offer without Turkey's approval, so why not cut out the middleman, which is why Anastasiades will do from now on.
3. There can never be a settlement accepted by the RoC outside EU principles, even if all the Turkish troops were withdrawn and there were no longer ToG.
4. TCs and Turkey thinks that "Political Equality" means 50%-50% on everything. Actually, it is "50%-50%" on nothing since "Political Equality" means "Equal Participation" in voting and not "Equal Results" must become from equal participation. To have a must at least one TC vote on everything is like giving 100% voting control to that one TC vote on everything. Then that becomes "Political Inequality". :roll:
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Re: Fatih out for an election win

Postby Maximus » Tue May 21, 2019 7:13 pm

Lordo,

Can you provide a link to a source where the tc have been offering to compensate the gc with exchange? This would basically mean the settlers would go home and the vast majority of the north would be once again inhabited by gc.

The tc don’t have anything to their name to negotiate with. You couldn’t afford the bill to correct the damage inflicted by turkey in 1974. Yet, you think, the tc are equal partners with a 30% share.

If the tc are so confident that this model would work, then why doesn’t akinci invite gc to take seats in “parliament” in the north as a pilot test? Why not give the gc a veto in your decision making in the north and a 70% share. :roll: :roll:

Maybe, you will see and understand the absolute folly in what your community expect as a solution when something completely unacceptable as this is put to you. Your community wouldn’t even accept the same model be applied in the “tfdrs”.

Akinci has been sidelined. We can also see that he takes his orders from Ankara. No turkey, the north wouldn’t survive for even two weeks and akinci would be begging for forgiveness. Your politicos would probably end up in a Cypriot jail.
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Re: Fatih out for an election win

Postby Lordo » Tue May 21, 2019 11:57 pm

let me tell you something. come close. no not close stay back.

here is a rivetting read. how 27 donums of larnaca land was exchamnged for 600 donums of land near timbu. you really need to pay more attention to the current news, not that this is current. now the above figures make 1 donum of land in the south equal to 22.22222 donums of gc land in the north on average even if you take 1 in 5, you can still exchnage al the land and have some tc land left over in the south.

can you imagine what baf, limasol and lefkosa land is worth in the south. i know you boys like your links. look at how the groc treated this unfortunate fellow after he had already eagreed with the exchange. now thats what i call daylight robbery.

there is another one with 50 donum of land in limasol where groc bought it out at 50 million euros. you can bu the whole of northern cyprus with that kind of money.

https://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com/2012/07/10/first-ever-land-swap-deal-approved/id=0012112
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Re: Fatih out for an election win

Postby Lordo » Wed May 22, 2019 12:01 am

perhaps now yu two blind boys can see who actually is the stumbleing block in the cyprus property exchanges. but than again you don't have a single brain cell between the two of you so perhaps not.
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Re: Fatih out for an election win

Postby Maximus » Wed May 22, 2019 12:25 am

Seriously!

you have found one case, that is stressed as being a special case, where a GC exchanged more land in the north for less land in the south.

And you think the RoC is the stumbling block to the property issue?

I doubt it, that article also states that the ECHR found turkey GUILTY of violating that mans human rights.

anyway, going off topic.

This thread is about Turkey eez squatting.

Turkish property squatting in Cyprus is already well documented and evident and she is guilty as sin. obviously.
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Re: Fatih out for an election win

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed May 22, 2019 4:34 am

...indeed, by forming the IPC, Turkey in effect pleaded guilt, and agreed to making compensation.
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Re: Fatih out for an election win

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed May 22, 2019 4:38 am

Cyprus to conduct eight drillings in EEZ over next two years
http://www.ekathimerini.com/240723/arti ... -two-years

...the question becomes, how can Turkey stop this work, with her intention to drill as well?
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Re: Fatih out for an election win

Postby Lordo » Wed May 22, 2019 1:58 pm

Maximus wrote:Seriously!

you have found one case, that is stressed as being a special case, where a GC exchanged more land in the north for less land in the south.

And you think the RoC is the stumbling block to the property issue?

I doubt it, that article also states that the ECHR found turkey GUILTY of violating that mans human rights.

anyway, going off topic.

This thread is about Turkey eez squatting.

Turkish property squatting in Cyprus is already well documented and evident and she is guilty as sin. obviously.

you are just too stupid to see the wood for the trees. so what is exactly special about this cae. there are 160,000 gcs and 60,000 tcs that this applies to. There was nothing special about this perhaps except that they built two schhols on one of the properties. all groc had to do was buy those but no they had to block the exchange because it does not suit her. she knows that tcs will be able to exchnage all their properties and there will be some left over. exchange is not based on volume it is based on valu. a limasol donum is nit the same value as a mesrga donum. i suspect i dlimasol donum would buy the whole of mesarga and some karpaz too.

here are some of the problems

1. groc does everything she can to stop people going to the ipc even going to the extent to accuse them of being traitors.
2. this case groc refused to hand over the properties even though the two sides reached the agreement.
3. the properties were valued at 21 million euroes by the ipc on both sides
4. groc valued the properties as 13 million.

so who is shafting who you stipid idiot.

go buy some brain cells

of course the ag declared it as a special case. if anybody had the balls they could also claim and let the groc say it does not apply. i really think you are too stupid to see what is going on. what is worse is you think you are really clever just like kakapoo but you are both thicker than two short and i mean very short planks. plonkers more likely.

no if 27 donums of land in larnaca is 21 million how much is 600 donums again.
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Re: Fatih out for an election win

Postby Kikapu » Wed May 22, 2019 4:35 pm

Lordo wrote:
Maximus wrote:Seriously!

you have found one case, that is stressed as being a special case, where a GC exchanged more land in the north for less land in the south.

And you think the RoC is the stumbling block to the property issue?

I doubt it, that article also states that the ECHR found turkey GUILTY of violating that mans human rights.

anyway, going off topic.

This thread is about Turkey eez squatting.

Turkish property squatting in Cyprus is already well documented and evident and she is guilty as sin. obviously.

you are just too stupid to see the wood for the trees. so what is exactly special about this cae. there are 160,000 gcs and 60,000 tcs that this applies to. There was nothing special about this perhaps except that they built two schhols on one of the properties. all groc had to do was buy those but no they had to block the exchange because it does not suit her. she knows that tcs will be able to exchnage all their properties and there will be some left over. exchange is not based on volume it is based on valu. a limasol donum is nit the same value as a mesrga donum. i suspect i dlimasol donum would buy the whole of mesarga and some karpaz too.

here are some of the problems

1. groc does everything she can to stop people going to the ipc even going to the extent to accuse them of being traitors.
2. this case groc refused to hand over the properties even though the two sides reached the agreement.
3. the properties were valued at 21 million euroes by the ipc on both sides
4. groc valued the properties as 13 million.

so who is shafting who you stipid idiot.

go buy some brain cells

of course the ag declared it as a special case. if anybody had the balls they could also claim and let the groc say it does not apply. i really think you are too stupid to see what is going on. what is worse is you think you are really clever just like kakapoo but you are both thicker than two short and i mean very short planks. plonkers more likely.

no if 27 donums of land in larnaca is 21 million how much is 600 donums again.


The RoC did the right thing to cut this deal at the root before GCs had their land stolen in the north for the second time. First time stolen by the illegal invasion and occupation by Turkey and the second time through depressed property prices in the north because of the illegal invasion and occupation by Turkey. You think a carpet merchant like you can swindle the rightful owners of their properties by just offering pennies on the dollar while getting premium for your land in the south just because it is free from illegal occupation by Turkey? Property prices did not vary too much all over the island on a like for like places before 1974. If you want to use 1974 prices for all properties and then calculated it’s true values based on it’s projected appreciation values without illegal invasion and occupation of Turkey have ever taken place in Cyprus, because 600 donums in the north most definitely would be worth more than £21million pounds when that deal was made, even if it were to be located in the shitiest part of the north. Take your camel trading somewhere else, Lordo, as the RoC is not buying your BS and neither is anyone else.
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