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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby Sotos » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:49 pm

kurupetos wrote:
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JustCypriot wrote:Lets talk about Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism). "Cyprus for Cypriots!" and these kind of patriotic stuff.

What do you think about it? Can it be the only realistic solution for Cyprus problem?


Cyprus for Cypriots most definitely. But this doesn't mean that Cyprus shouldn't be part of something greater if the Cypriots themselves democratically choose to. It is an oxymoron to suggest that "Cyprus for Cypriots" is achieved by prohibiting from Cypriots the right to democratically choose what to do with Cyprus.

Indeed. The majority chose Enosis with Greece when asked in referendums (1930 and 1950). Our choice is still the same today. :wink:


Today our choice (of the majority) would not be the same because (a) we are part of the EU and (b) Greece has shown that has no will or power to protect Cyprus.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby Sotos » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:42 pm

JustCypriot wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
JustCypriot wrote:Lets talk about Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism). "Cyprus for Cypriots!" and these kind of patriotic stuff.

What do you think about it? Can it be the only realistic solution for Cyprus problem?

It can work for the Brits and most foreigners. Now bugger off!


LOL! This is one of the funniest thing Ive ever read :) Yes we saw that who Brits and other foreigners used. Our sick people who suffers from Grecophilia and Turcophilia.


Turkey and UK used your community as an excuse not just to stop enosis but also to stop a truly independent Cyprus from happening, because both of those things would be against their interests. Union with Greece is now a thing of the past, but Turkey is still using TCs as an excuse to prevent Cyprus from being truly independent. The interests of TCs would be best served as equal Cypriots in an EU state where they constitute a significantly large community. But Turkey makes TCs hope that they can gain a lot more than that (on our expense) and in the end the TCs instead of being the 18% of a democratic EU state, they will end up being the 0.15% of an Islamic Dictatorship (and since such percentage is way too small, it will not be long until they will be fully assimilated and they will cease to exist as a separate community)
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby JustCypriot » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:30 am

Sotos wrote:
JustCypriot wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
JustCypriot wrote:Lets talk about Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism). "Cyprus for Cypriots!" and these kind of patriotic stuff.

What do you think about it? Can it be the only realistic solution for Cyprus problem?

It can work for the Brits and most foreigners. Now bugger off!


LOL! This is one of the funniest thing Ive ever read :) Yes we saw that who Brits and other foreigners used. Our sick people who suffers from Grecophilia and Turcophilia.


Turkey and UK used your community as an excuse not just to stop enosis but also to stop a truly independent Cyprus from happening, because both of those things would be against their interests. Union with Greece is now a thing of the past, but Turkey is still using TCs as an excuse to prevent Cyprus from being truly independent. The interests of TCs would be best served as equal Cypriots in an EU state where they constitute a significantly large community. But Turkey makes TCs hope that they can gain a lot more than that (on our expense) and in the end the TCs instead of being the 18% of a democratic EU state, they will end up being the 0.15% of an Islamic Dictatorship (and since such percentage is way too small, it will not be long until they will be fully assimilated and they will cease to exist as a separate community)


It is really sad and funny to see that still some people from "your community" doesn't understand one simple thing. Nobody asked "my 18% community" anything before doing their bullshit. Neither traitors from "your community" who tried to overthrown the elected president of Cyprus, Makarios, or turkey before occupy my homeland because of your traitors who has fantasy to overthrown the president and make Cyprus part of Greece. If there wasnt a junta or coup against Makarios, Turkey wasn't gonna find its reason to occupy Cyprus. UK, Turkey and other foreigners just used idiots from your community who believed in desperate greek officers and did this thing against elected president. And the same people, when they see the first effin turkish soldier with turkish flag, run away and hide in the caves and bushes in Kyrenia. It is so ignorant and coward that people like you still can believe that when all these stuff were happening my "tiny" 18% community was used. Dream on. In all these story, nobody gave a shit or asked anything to my little community. We did not have such power, and we still do not have it to deal with your idiots and turks.

And the last part of your text is correct. My little community suffered and will suffer from all those awful stuff caused by you guys and turkey. Even the people who deserve to live under turkish occupation are GCs not us. But I have a news for you. First we will have to leave this island because of the occupation thats true. In 3-5 years there wont be Cypriot left in the occupied terratories. Then good luck to your community which will be trapped in an island middle of nowhere with millions of barbarian anatolian turks. If you are dreaming that UN and that looong border with wires will protect you from those monkeys, you are seeing another dream. And if you are dreaming that your poor, coward, halfbreed balkanic brothers from Greece will come and protect you, good luck with that.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby kurupetos » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:37 pm

JustCypriot wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
JustCypriot wrote:Lets talk about Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism). "Cyprus for Cypriots!" and these kind of patriotic stuff.

What do you think about it? Can it be the only realistic solution for Cyprus problem?

It can work for the Brits and most foreigners. Now bugger off!


LOL! This is one of the funniest thing Ive ever read :) Yes we saw that who Brits and other foreigners used. Our sick people who suffers from Grecophilia and Turcophilia.

They used TCs/TMT to achieve partition. I wouldn't bother giving you a history lesson. You seem like a complete retard. :roll:
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby JustCypriot » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:54 pm

kurupetos wrote:
JustCypriot wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
JustCypriot wrote:Lets talk about Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism). "Cyprus for Cypriots!" and these kind of patriotic stuff.

What do you think about it? Can it be the only realistic solution for Cyprus problem?

It can work for the Brits and most foreigners. Now bugger off!


LOL! This is one of the funniest thing Ive ever read :) Yes we saw that who Brits and other foreigners used. Our sick people who suffers from Grecophilia and Turcophilia.

They used TCs/TMT to achieve partition. I wouldn't bother giving you a history lesson. You seem like a complete retard. :roll:


I wonder how old are you, just get lost :D Tell you father to take you to greece and leave you there. I can get both of yours one way ticket for free. Just write me PM if you want it and please dont forget to your names and stuff :D
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby kurupetos » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:00 pm

JustCypriot wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
JustCypriot wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
JustCypriot wrote:Lets talk about Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism). "Cyprus for Cypriots!" and these kind of patriotic stuff.

What do you think about it? Can it be the only realistic solution for Cyprus problem?

It can work for the Brits and most foreigners. Now bugger off!


LOL! This is one of the funniest thing Ive ever read :) Yes we saw that who Brits and other foreigners used. Our sick people who suffers from Grecophilia and Turcophilia.

They used TCs/TMT to achieve partition. I wouldn't bother giving you a history lesson. You seem like a complete retard. :roll:


I wonder how old are you, just get lost :D Tell you father to take you to greece and leave you there. I can get both of yours one way ticket for free. Just write me PM if you want it and please dont forget to your names and stuff :D

I'm older than you Levent. I live in Cyprus. I won't ask you where you live, because I already know that you live in London. :lol:

Send my cousin Lordo, my regards! Ta! :D
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby JustCypriot » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:17 pm

kurupetos wrote:I'm older than you Levent. I live in Cyprus. I won't ask you where you live, because I already know that you live in London. :lol:

Send my cousin Lordo, my regards! Ta! :D


What the hell you are talking about :D Guys is this guy real or joke. Who the fuck is Levent. What the hell is going on in this forum :shock: :lol:
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby Sotos » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:47 pm

JustCypriot wrote:
Sotos wrote:
JustCypriot wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
JustCypriot wrote:Lets talk about Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism). "Cyprus for Cypriots!" and these kind of patriotic stuff.

What do you think about it? Can it be the only realistic solution for Cyprus problem?

It can work for the Brits and most foreigners. Now bugger off!


LOL! This is one of the funniest thing Ive ever read :) Yes we saw that who Brits and other foreigners used. Our sick people who suffers from Grecophilia and Turcophilia.


Turkey and UK used your community as an excuse not just to stop enosis but also to stop a truly independent Cyprus from happening, because both of those things would be against their interests. Union with Greece is now a thing of the past, but Turkey is still using TCs as an excuse to prevent Cyprus from being truly independent. The interests of TCs would be best served as equal Cypriots in an EU state where they constitute a significantly large community. But Turkey makes TCs hope that they can gain a lot more than that (on our expense) and in the end the TCs instead of being the 18% of a democratic EU state, they will end up being the 0.15% of an Islamic Dictatorship (and since such percentage is way too small, it will not be long until they will be fully assimilated and they will cease to exist as a separate community)


It is really sad and funny to see that still some people from "your community" doesn't understand one simple thing. Nobody asked "my 18% community" anything before doing their bullshit. Neither traitors from "your community" who tried to overthrown the elected president of Cyprus, Makarios, or turkey before occupy my homeland because of your traitors who has fantasy to overthrown the president and make Cyprus part of Greece. If there wasnt a junta or coup against Makarios, Turkey wasn't gonna find its reason to occupy Cyprus. UK, Turkey and other foreigners just used idiots from your community who believed in desperate greek officers and did this thing against elected president. And the same people, when they see the first effin turkish soldier with turkish flag, run away and hide in the caves and bushes in Kyrenia. It is so ignorant and coward that people like you still can believe that when all these stuff were happening my "tiny" 18% community was used. Dream on. In all these story, nobody gave a shit or asked anything to my little community. We did not have such power, and we still do not have it to deal with your idiots and turks.

And the last part of your text is correct. My little community suffered and will suffer from all those awful stuff caused by you guys and turkey. Even the people who deserve to live under turkish occupation are GCs not us. But I have a news for you. First we will have to leave this island because of the occupation thats true. In 3-5 years there wont be Cypriot left in the occupied terratories. Then good luck to your community which will be trapped in an island middle of nowhere with millions of barbarian anatolian turks. If you are dreaming that UN and that looong border with wires will protect you from those monkeys, you are seeing another dream. And if you are dreaming that your poor, coward, halfbreed balkanic brothers from Greece will come and protect you, good luck with that.


Yes, the treason of the coupists gave the excuse to Turkey to invade. But trying to claim that everything was done just by Turkey, while that TCs had nothing to do with it, is bullshit. Your leadership, which you elect, had been promoting partition since the 50s. When the Turkish army invaded many GCs fought and lost their lives against the Turkish troops while on the contrary many TCs assisted the Turkish troops. Many of the executions of unarmed GCs, which we now find buried in mass graves, were actually carried out by TCs.

Your community was used as an excuse. It was used as an an excuse in 1960 to impose some undemocratic, divisive constitution... you gladly accepted all the benefits you were given on our expense. And it was used as an excuse when Turkey invaded in 1974. Turkey claimed that it invaded to protect the TCs and your leadership never argued against this. And it is used since then to keep Cyprus divided.

I read your website and the views you have there are commendable but unfortunately not representative of the TC community. You do realize this, right? So what I say is not against you personally, I am talking about your community as a whole with the choices you made through the leaderships you elect.

Obviously losing 1/3rd of our island to Turkey is bad for us. If that wasn't the case then there wouldn't be any Cyprus Problem. But what most in your community fail to realize is that (a) no solution doesn't mean the eventual recognition of "trnc" as an independent state, but their eventual assimilation by Turkey and the end of their community, and (b) that the "solution" that your leadership insists on, is worst than the problem we already have, will make the whole of Cyprus a puppet of Turkey and place us at a much greater danger than the one we currently are, and therefore there is no chance we will ever accept such thing.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby JustCypriot » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:24 am

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Yes, the treason of the coupists gave the excuse to Turkey to invade. But trying to claim that everything was done just by Turkey, while that TCs had nothing to do with it, is bullshit. Your leadership, which you elect, had been promoting partition since the 50s. When the Turkish army invaded many GCs fought and lost their lives against the Turkish troops while on the contrary many TCs assisted the Turkish troops. Many of the executions of unarmed GCs, which we now find buried in mass graves, were actually carried out by TCs.

Your community was used as an excuse. It was used as an an excuse in 1960 to impose some undemocratic, divisive constitution... you gladly accepted all the benefits you were given on our expense. And it was used as an excuse when Turkey invaded in 1974. Turkey claimed that it invaded to protect the TCs and your leadership never argued against this. And it is used since then to keep Cyprus divided.

I read your website and the views you have there are commendable but unfortunately not representative of the TC community. You do realize this, right? So what I say is not against you personally, I am talking about your community as a whole with the choices you made through the leaderships you elect.

Obviously losing 1/3rd of our island to Turkey is bad for us. If that wasn't the case then there wouldn't be any Cyprus Problem. But what most in your community fail to realize is that (a) no solution doesn't mean the eventual recognition of "trnc" as an independent state, but their eventual assimilation by Turkey and the end of their community, and (b) that the "solution" that your leadership insists on, is worst than the problem we already have, will make the whole of Cyprus a puppet of Turkey and place us at a much greater danger than the one we currently are, and therefore there is no chance we will ever accept such thing.


There is a huge confusion and wrong information at the things you wrote. First of all what do you mean about your community's leadership? Neither GCs community or TCs community did not have and still not have a homogeneous leadership. As you guys have greek cypriot nationalist or greek nationalist we have the some amount of similar type of idiots as well. Both terrorised the people who wants the Cyprus together and murdered hundreds of people. TMT killed more TCs than GCs and EOKA killed more GCs than TCs. This is a statistical fact. Both these organisations are the only reason what we have today. And it is well documented that UK and USA used these organisations with Greece and Turkish government during that time. Also the website that I shared is not my website, its a well known organisation in the north, it is funny that you never heard of them since you are interested with Cypriot politics. Also other Cypriotist organisations like United Cyprus Party, KTÖS, New Cyprus Party and their ideas are not new as well. There were always TCs supported these ideas from 1950s and before, most of them killed by TMT and blacklisted by Turkey. Make your research, Dervis Ali Kavazoglu, Fazıl Onder, Ahmet Muzaffer Gurkan, Ayhan Hikmet, Kutlu Adalı and hundreds more. Even Dentaş's son assasinated by Turkey because of his views. So basicaly my tiny 18% community was not only trying to survive from EOKA massacres, we were also trying to be alive from TMT/Turkish massacres. And what do you think that 18% people can do? How can we deal with your traitor bastards and Turkey at the same time? So when you try to make a judgement you have to know the dynamics of the situation better. If you are hearing first time in your life these names and these organisations and struggle of our people, you cant write all these stuff.

Also we do not need to write these looooong stuff. The only way that this island can be united is to stop the fantastic and fictional nationalism like greek nationalism or turkish nationalism (which I can tell you that maybe 1 percent of TCs define themselves as a turkish nationalist but that number is not the same for greek cypriots. I know because I live in Cyprus and spend most of my time at south as well). If you want an independent Cyprus it has to have build on the concept of one nation, one flag and one homeland. Anything other than this only cause advantage of turkey, greece or brits or americans. And Cyprus will be divided until turkey continues and occupy other 2/3 of the island.

Plus one more correction for you: none of TCs are assimilating. They are fighting back and the ones who lost everything leave the island. There are around 1 million turkish settler living in the north today and maybe 80 thousand Cypriot left. And TCs are leaving island everyday because they suffer from Turkey, turkish settler and their oppression. And I have another news for you, turkish settlers population grows so fast because they are like rabbits. So if there wont be solution soon, they will really go after other 2/3 of the island. Good luck to you for when it happens, because if you guys continue to believe these stuff and look everything with maximalist perspective, it will happen soon.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:55 am

...there will come a time when Cypriots, the other half as i like to call them, will fight for themselves. They will fight against the "Turkishness" which today divides Turkey, as it has divided Cyprus, along with their brethren in Turkey, those Turkish but not "Turks", because of their common cause, (if Erdogan does not change his intentions,) for Freedom. Cyprus as a result will be united, so too Turkey. Those "Greek" (and those "Turkish") will mock us as is their habit, unable to overcome the fear, and the ignorance they have within themselves; but we, not "them" will overcome.
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