Thursday, May 16, 2019
Çavuşoğlu: “We will continue our drilling works in the areas where the TRNC has granted a license”
https://cyprusscene.com/2019/05/16/trnc ... -may-2019/
One Country, one People, many Nations; does that describe Turkey?
...what of the Cypriots? Or is it as it is perceived, by Turkey, an island divided among its "Turks", and those not "Turkish", call them "Greeks".
...while Turkey drills in "disputed" waters, can't Cyprus do the same?
Indeed, Cyprus drills for Cypriots, can Turkey say the same?
...and what of the Treaty of Lausanne, as Erdogan has said, now tossed out the window? While Turkey bristles with her military might, through hostile acts she disrupts the balance of power in the Eastern Mediterranean; how does this end without military conflict and more death?
...is it oil, a fair share, or supremacy of the sea; she (he) wants?
While Turkey does not agree with UNCLOS, it is a template where all the other neighbours are willing to agree, that it is fair in its guidance. Turkey has taken a maximal approach, unlike a State recognising itself an equal among equals.
Turkey is divided, now, more than ever. "Turkishness" has torn Cyprus in two for decades; it tears today at Turkey's social fabric. Hope is needed. The tarnish that covers Turkey's affairs can be removed with a small change in intention, to much international esteem, hope for Turks (not "Turks") in Turkey, hope for the world with this Problem's end, if Cyprus is freed from its subjugation, its occupation, and that the work that Cyprus has done to bring these neighbours together is recognised.
There is a chair waiting for Turkey at the Forum, and chairs waiting to be filled if Turkey dares to join in Tripartite meetings with, Cyprus/Greece, and Cyprus/Syria, as well.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)
by repulsewarrior » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:41 am
Tuesday, July 28, 2015
United States of Cyprus?
http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/07/28/unite ... 2161765036
...the good news is that both leaders agree. There will be a united Cyprus.
Let us hope that as Citizens, the people will be identified by merit, if there is to be distinctions and discrimination. Let us hope as Cypriots we will get to vote as Individuals, as Cypriots. And let us hope, being Bicommunal, that as Persons, at another level of Government, Cypriots may choose to identify with one of a set of Cypriot Constituencies, where they can live and sustain a life of happiness, as an elector an equal, whether perceived "a minority", or "a majority", there.
...Frankly, I like RoC, Republic of Cyprus.
It is not the name that is to be changed, but the intention. If anything, for the sake of those missing, murdered, and made to disappear, the name should stay the same. Whether Turkish, or Greek, (or Armenian, Latin, and Maronite for that matter), let us remember that they were robbed of their Cypriot identity, for their Cypriot identity, by "Greeks", and "Turks"; changing the name suits "them".
United States of Cyprus?
http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/07/28/unite ... 2161765036
...the good news is that both leaders agree. There will be a united Cyprus.
Let us hope that as Citizens, the people will be identified by merit, if there is to be distinctions and discrimination. Let us hope as Cypriots we will get to vote as Individuals, as Cypriots. And let us hope, being Bicommunal, that as Persons, at another level of Government, Cypriots may choose to identify with one of a set of Cypriot Constituencies, where they can live and sustain a life of happiness, as an elector an equal, whether perceived "a minority", or "a majority", there.
...Frankly, I like RoC, Republic of Cyprus.
It is not the name that is to be changed, but the intention. If anything, for the sake of those missing, murdered, and made to disappear, the name should stay the same. Whether Turkish, or Greek, (or Armenian, Latin, and Maronite for that matter), let us remember that they were robbed of their Cypriot identity, for their Cypriot identity, by "Greeks", and "Turks"; changing the name suits "them".
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)
by repulsewarrior » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:40 am
Sunday, March 01, 2015
Cyprus – Russian Link and IS Extremism
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2015/03 ... extremism/
...thank-you Greek Reporter, a well thought out, comprehensive piece.
It may be that President Anastasiades is a person who expresses his feelings more openly than most, much to the discomfort of the more discreet at this level of politics. Yet, if he is seeking to be the facilitator of dialog, it may be that Cyprus gains from this universal appeal, as an ally. We see in Cyprus' efforts to promote good relations within her sphere of influence progressing, with the Cairo accord, that links Egypt, Greece, Israel, and Cyprus to efforts that secure the rational development of the sea's underwater resources. Cyprus demonstrates its skill at facilitating exchange, what with its Maritime Registry, its Rule of Law, Education and Banking sectors. Its relations with Syria, and Lebanon, no doubt can play a role for progress.
In any case, these same agreements, for safe Harbour, exist between Cyprus and other countries, like China, USA, France, etc. I will add, in terms of regional safety, few sites represent a better place from which help can come quickly. This too, is an issue of International importance in which progress is achieved through social-exchange. If it is necessary to have so many warships in the Eastern Mediterranean, then let us hope they practice saving lives, together, what with the Human traffic over this sea. Having them share the benefit of water, and shelter, is a good first step, i say, Cypriots are good hosts this way.
Europe, one hopes will feel strong enough to confront the Problem sooner, than late.
One also hopes that as a Union they will defend the existence of the Republic, without apology, whether within it there exists at another level of government, Constituencies or not. The idea that Cypriots are only, "Turkish" or not "Turkish", must stop. At least it should not be denied that in effect, Cypriots exist, and it does not depend on the colour of their skin or their ethnic origin. Europe must make it clear, the difference between defining People as Individuals, and as Persons. Europe must provide the guidance the rest of the world needs by demonstrating an ability to integrate Citizens, without their assimilation. And in the case of Cyprus, to deny those who think it is a good idea to divide it in two, because like Solomon's baby Cyprus lives, is also a good idea.
Turkey has the same Problem, if you ask me. It too would benefit from Constitutional Reform where there existed a Turkic Constituency, at another level of government, not unlike any other Constituency, an equal, within a set of Turkish Constituencies, where people choose to live freely, with the liberty to sustain each's distinct identity.
...like in Cyprus, one Flag flies over Turkey, neither represents a Nation per se, but a State which defends Universal Principals. Canada comes to mind when one thinks of a successful BBF, Turkey is the Problem in Cyprus, Europe has a very important role to play.
Cyprus – Russian Link and IS Extremism
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2015/03 ... extremism/
...thank-you Greek Reporter, a well thought out, comprehensive piece.
It may be that President Anastasiades is a person who expresses his feelings more openly than most, much to the discomfort of the more discreet at this level of politics. Yet, if he is seeking to be the facilitator of dialog, it may be that Cyprus gains from this universal appeal, as an ally. We see in Cyprus' efforts to promote good relations within her sphere of influence progressing, with the Cairo accord, that links Egypt, Greece, Israel, and Cyprus to efforts that secure the rational development of the sea's underwater resources. Cyprus demonstrates its skill at facilitating exchange, what with its Maritime Registry, its Rule of Law, Education and Banking sectors. Its relations with Syria, and Lebanon, no doubt can play a role for progress.
In any case, these same agreements, for safe Harbour, exist between Cyprus and other countries, like China, USA, France, etc. I will add, in terms of regional safety, few sites represent a better place from which help can come quickly. This too, is an issue of International importance in which progress is achieved through social-exchange. If it is necessary to have so many warships in the Eastern Mediterranean, then let us hope they practice saving lives, together, what with the Human traffic over this sea. Having them share the benefit of water, and shelter, is a good first step, i say, Cypriots are good hosts this way.
Europe, one hopes will feel strong enough to confront the Problem sooner, than late.
One also hopes that as a Union they will defend the existence of the Republic, without apology, whether within it there exists at another level of government, Constituencies or not. The idea that Cypriots are only, "Turkish" or not "Turkish", must stop. At least it should not be denied that in effect, Cypriots exist, and it does not depend on the colour of their skin or their ethnic origin. Europe must make it clear, the difference between defining People as Individuals, and as Persons. Europe must provide the guidance the rest of the world needs by demonstrating an ability to integrate Citizens, without their assimilation. And in the case of Cyprus, to deny those who think it is a good idea to divide it in two, because like Solomon's baby Cyprus lives, is also a good idea.
Turkey has the same Problem, if you ask me. It too would benefit from Constitutional Reform where there existed a Turkic Constituency, at another level of government, not unlike any other Constituency, an equal, within a set of Turkish Constituencies, where people choose to live freely, with the liberty to sustain each's distinct identity.
...like in Cyprus, one Flag flies over Turkey, neither represents a Nation per se, but a State which defends Universal Principals. Canada comes to mind when one thinks of a successful BBF, Turkey is the Problem in Cyprus, Europe has a very important role to play.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)
by repulsewarrior » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:22 am
Wednesday, April 01, 2015
President sets worrying new condition
http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/03/31/presi ... condition/
...and why should the Republic of Cyprus negotiate with any one of the Cypriot Constituencies? If it negotiates with Constituencies, shouldn't it negotiate with all Constituencies?
Bicommunal does not mean dividing Cyprus between those called "Turks", and those called "Greeks". It is defined by our Rights as Individuals, and our Liberty as Persons (all of yet to be more clearly refined). Like Bizonal, which is a geographic term, it should define a Cyprus which is a whole, and where within, its Constituencies are made up of components, it does not mean tearing the island in two.
Turkey needs to recognise that Cyprus exists, and that like the Turkish Flag, the Flag of Cyprus is its equal.
"Greeks" like "Turks", need to learn that although those Flags represent them, those Flags represent all Citizens who are willing to defend the Universal Principals they represent, together, Individuals, without any further distinction or discrimination. Like the Flag of Turkey, it is Turks who are represented, not "Turks", the Flag of Cyprus represents Cypriots, not just "Greeks".
...whether by arrogance or by it being a simple fact, Mr Anastasiades is right, the Republic, in representing its Citizens, like in any other country, and its President, should have no equal.
What is missing in this debate, in effect, is a Greek Constituency, without which, there is no equal to a Turkish Constituency. Frankly, it would not surprise me that as Constituencies, having the same needs, (since there are actually more than two) that they could present themselves before the President unanimously. That, as such, to the President sworn to defend the State (and the Freedom it represents), their consideration toward Constitutional Reform would be of value. And I suggest that this Liberty they would suggest, (another level of Government,) self-representation as Persons, would be possible.
President sets worrying new condition
http://cyprus-mail.com/2015/03/31/presi ... condition/
...and why should the Republic of Cyprus negotiate with any one of the Cypriot Constituencies? If it negotiates with Constituencies, shouldn't it negotiate with all Constituencies?
Bicommunal does not mean dividing Cyprus between those called "Turks", and those called "Greeks". It is defined by our Rights as Individuals, and our Liberty as Persons (all of yet to be more clearly refined). Like Bizonal, which is a geographic term, it should define a Cyprus which is a whole, and where within, its Constituencies are made up of components, it does not mean tearing the island in two.
Turkey needs to recognise that Cyprus exists, and that like the Turkish Flag, the Flag of Cyprus is its equal.
"Greeks" like "Turks", need to learn that although those Flags represent them, those Flags represent all Citizens who are willing to defend the Universal Principals they represent, together, Individuals, without any further distinction or discrimination. Like the Flag of Turkey, it is Turks who are represented, not "Turks", the Flag of Cyprus represents Cypriots, not just "Greeks".
...whether by arrogance or by it being a simple fact, Mr Anastasiades is right, the Republic, in representing its Citizens, like in any other country, and its President, should have no equal.
What is missing in this debate, in effect, is a Greek Constituency, without which, there is no equal to a Turkish Constituency. Frankly, it would not surprise me that as Constituencies, having the same needs, (since there are actually more than two) that they could present themselves before the President unanimously. That, as such, to the President sworn to defend the State (and the Freedom it represents), their consideration toward Constitutional Reform would be of value. And I suggest that this Liberty they would suggest, (another level of Government,) self-representation as Persons, would be possible.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)
by repulsewarrior » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:09 am
Sunday, November 12, 2006
...What do Greek Cypriots really want?...
http://www.talkcyprus.org/forum/viewtop ... 3452#73452
I think both communities must take a closer look at themselves because neither gives a minority any rights, or recognition. Anyone can see that neither has the Constitutional where with all to be inclusive.
The reform, being comprehensive must be unlike the plans which have failed, and reasoned to be bi-zonal, not divided in two, and bi-communal, not two communities. With goodwill, the compassion to know what this means denies the will of each Nation as adversaries and compels them to act as people.
I say we need three governments, and one capital. Bi-zonal; having many parts, and bi-communal; together as equals, and apart.
Call me a Greek Cypriot, and this is what I want.
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...What do Greek Cypriots really want?...
http://www.talkcyprus.org/forum/viewtop ... 3452#73452
I think both communities must take a closer look at themselves because neither gives a minority any rights, or recognition. Anyone can see that neither has the Constitutional where with all to be inclusive.
The reform, being comprehensive must be unlike the plans which have failed, and reasoned to be bi-zonal, not divided in two, and bi-communal, not two communities. With goodwill, the compassion to know what this means denies the will of each Nation as adversaries and compels them to act as people.
I say we need three governments, and one capital. Bi-zonal; having many parts, and bi-communal; together as equals, and apart.
Call me a Greek Cypriot, and this is what I want.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)
by repulsewarrior » Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:47 pm
https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/04/25/our- ... nnan-plan/
...indeed, by Annan V, just in time for election day, who had even read these changes, let alone discuss them, or debate them, and agree?
After Annan III, what was clear, was that Turkey had no interest in Cypriots, a Cyprus, or in a sustainable identity as such, but, in her own interest: "Turkishness"; a notion which since signing the Treaty of Lausanne has been used toward its denial.
...and what could one expect, from Cypriots; those who are not "Greek", or "Turkish"? To this day despite decades of subjugation, assimilation, mayhem, and this dysfunction, they still represent about half the voting population.
...indeed, by Annan V, just in time for election day, who had even read these changes, let alone discuss them, or debate them, and agree?
After Annan III, what was clear, was that Turkey had no interest in Cypriots, a Cyprus, or in a sustainable identity as such, but, in her own interest: "Turkishness"; a notion which since signing the Treaty of Lausanne has been used toward its denial.
...and what could one expect, from Cypriots; those who are not "Greek", or "Turkish"? To this day despite decades of subjugation, assimilation, mayhem, and this dysfunction, they still represent about half the voting population.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)
by repulsewarrior » Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:38 pm
Wednesday, June 05, 2019
...something to think about.
...but "Greeks", and "Turks" make up only half of the population of Cyprus; Cypriots, unnaturally divided, despite decades now, still exist.
...as Cypriots, Freedom as Individuals, as Persons Liberty; it is not so hard to understand, Canada comes to mind as a successful BBF, the USA is perhaps the most successful, but not a Mosaic, a Melting Pot. Is there shame being a Canadian, West or East, French, or English? Is there shame being American being Texan, a northerner, or Hawaiian?
A Cyprus divided, is a Turkey divided, those who are working, for "Turkishness" may consider this, in Cyprus, and in Turkey.
http://bbxb.blogspot.com/2019/06/someth ... about.html
...something to think about.
...but "Greeks", and "Turks" make up only half of the population of Cyprus; Cypriots, unnaturally divided, despite decades now, still exist.
...as Cypriots, Freedom as Individuals, as Persons Liberty; it is not so hard to understand, Canada comes to mind as a successful BBF, the USA is perhaps the most successful, but not a Mosaic, a Melting Pot. Is there shame being a Canadian, West or East, French, or English? Is there shame being American being Texan, a northerner, or Hawaiian?
A Cyprus divided, is a Turkey divided, those who are working, for "Turkishness" may consider this, in Cyprus, and in Turkey.
http://bbxb.blogspot.com/2019/06/someth ... about.html
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)
by repulsewarrior » Mon May 04, 2020 5:09 am
https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/05/03/soon ... l-be-dead/
...do not worry Fr, to answer your question the People will not forget, that those who died were and are Cypriots, despite the "Greeks" and "Turks" who have denied them this dignity, this identity, decades now.
...after all these elections; where as electors the population has represented itself about half to "be" Cypriot.
...now, a Cypriot MEP has been elected who is Turkish. It will not be long for more elections, when Cypriots gather, this time united under the Flag of Cyprus, to elect Leadership, Turkish and Greek, which they may both support, (respectively,) on Principal, and on Issues. And who "being" Cypriot will sit together to solve the Problem.
While "conservatives" may see things differently, they cannot stop Cypriots, in unity, demonstrating that those who treat this Flag as a rag are in affect, not Cypriot, and that by their inability to gather accordingly, for Cyprus,"they" are and will be exposed, as one in the same; for "Greekness" and "Turkishness" instead.
...do not worry Fr, to answer your question the People will not forget, that those who died were and are Cypriots, despite the "Greeks" and "Turks" who have denied them this dignity, this identity, decades now.
...after all these elections; where as electors the population has represented itself about half to "be" Cypriot.
...now, a Cypriot MEP has been elected who is Turkish. It will not be long for more elections, when Cypriots gather, this time united under the Flag of Cyprus, to elect Leadership, Turkish and Greek, which they may both support, (respectively,) on Principal, and on Issues. And who "being" Cypriot will sit together to solve the Problem.
While "conservatives" may see things differently, they cannot stop Cypriots, in unity, demonstrating that those who treat this Flag as a rag are in affect, not Cypriot, and that by their inability to gather accordingly, for Cyprus,"they" are and will be exposed, as one in the same; for "Greekness" and "Turkishness" instead.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)
by repulsewarrior » Wed May 06, 2020 5:31 am
Wednesday, May 29, 2019
Re: eu vote results
cyprus46837-60.html#p880442
...it crossed my mind that Disy has been having talks with Akinci's Party. Though they were late for the EU elections, it would not surprise me if such an alliance will be formed, in adapting to AKEL's successful effort to get elected a Turkish Cypriot.
Thus, Turkish Cypriots have become an important electorate to the main stream Parties. The Parties themselves will change, exposing those who cannot. It may even drive the creation of Turkish Cypriot Parties, who will make the same effort to gain support from Greek Cypriots.
...three Capitols seems right for Nicosia, and in buildings adjoining and nearby, it is not hard to imagine such a state. A State and two Constituencies, providing to its electors the services they expect and pay for with taxes, they may economise with a unified bureaucracy. While the EU is at its advent, if it survives, Cypriots will want strong representation within it. A strong central government, in that regard, unitary, or federal, will provide that, as a sum many times greater than its parts. If the Constituencies have parts (as i have suggested having enclaves spotting the island's map pretty much as it is), within their National Assemblies, each Constituency will be a better representation of its diversity as a People, and as a majority demonstrate that they can provide for the special needs of minorities among them, as well.
If Mr. Niyazi draws attention by representing Cypriots well in their affairs, it will be even harder for "Turks" and "Greeks" to justify their toxic relationship. It will be easier for those who are silent (read: silenced) to demonstrate they care for a Cyprus unlike ''this''.
Re: eu vote results
cyprus46837-60.html#p880442
...it crossed my mind that Disy has been having talks with Akinci's Party. Though they were late for the EU elections, it would not surprise me if such an alliance will be formed, in adapting to AKEL's successful effort to get elected a Turkish Cypriot.
Thus, Turkish Cypriots have become an important electorate to the main stream Parties. The Parties themselves will change, exposing those who cannot. It may even drive the creation of Turkish Cypriot Parties, who will make the same effort to gain support from Greek Cypriots.
...three Capitols seems right for Nicosia, and in buildings adjoining and nearby, it is not hard to imagine such a state. A State and two Constituencies, providing to its electors the services they expect and pay for with taxes, they may economise with a unified bureaucracy. While the EU is at its advent, if it survives, Cypriots will want strong representation within it. A strong central government, in that regard, unitary, or federal, will provide that, as a sum many times greater than its parts. If the Constituencies have parts (as i have suggested having enclaves spotting the island's map pretty much as it is), within their National Assemblies, each Constituency will be a better representation of its diversity as a People, and as a majority demonstrate that they can provide for the special needs of minorities among them, as well.
If Mr. Niyazi draws attention by representing Cypriots well in their affairs, it will be even harder for "Turks" and "Greeks" to justify their toxic relationship. It will be easier for those who are silent (read: silenced) to demonstrate they care for a Cyprus unlike ''this''.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)
by repulsewarrior » Sat May 09, 2020 8:57 pm
Friday, January 20, 2017
Why is the West selling out Cyprus?
http://theduran.com/west-cyprus-turkey-eurasia/
...the dirty deal i imagine will be the betrayal "Turks" will feel, those living in Cyprus at least, when Erdogan says, "One Turkey, One Cyprus"; for a "new Turkey", by recognising that a Cyprus exists, that "they" are Cypriots.
It is not Mdme. Nuland, in charge, in this case, Erdogan is, truly, "but one". Turkish or not, these souls, in Cyprus, when he decides, will demonstrate once again their willingness to submit themselves, for "Turkishness", and for him, they will agree, to be Cypriots; they will be the ones watching silently, (for a greater Turkey) while the Cypriots among them express their joy. Even the water and the electricity (which no longer "belongs" to them) will be "gifted" to Cyprus, and the People of Cyprus; these as reparations and redress, as a sign of Goodwill.
....no other choice really exists, naturally. With Cyprus as a template, one Turkey, its Citizens, Individuals; without distinction or discrimination, prepared to defend each other: is Freedom. And within, as Persons, Turkish Constituencies; distinct identities, which Citizens may choose to nurture: is Liberty.
A BBF in Turkey, not unlike a BBF in Cyprus, cannot be reasonably refused.
...intentions count. Consider the USA, and Canada, two examples that represent successful countries politically speaking; both BBF. Peace in Cyprus, and in Turkey, would be hopeful, to say the least.
...if we (read: the rest of the world) betray Cyprus, if we ignore that Cypriots exist, if we allow "Turkishness" to gain this superiority above what is not "Turkish", we betray ourselves; it will not end there.
There are no "deals" on Universal Principals. Lest we Forget.
Why is the West selling out Cyprus?
http://theduran.com/west-cyprus-turkey-eurasia/
...the dirty deal i imagine will be the betrayal "Turks" will feel, those living in Cyprus at least, when Erdogan says, "One Turkey, One Cyprus"; for a "new Turkey", by recognising that a Cyprus exists, that "they" are Cypriots.
It is not Mdme. Nuland, in charge, in this case, Erdogan is, truly, "but one". Turkish or not, these souls, in Cyprus, when he decides, will demonstrate once again their willingness to submit themselves, for "Turkishness", and for him, they will agree, to be Cypriots; they will be the ones watching silently, (for a greater Turkey) while the Cypriots among them express their joy. Even the water and the electricity (which no longer "belongs" to them) will be "gifted" to Cyprus, and the People of Cyprus; these as reparations and redress, as a sign of Goodwill.
....no other choice really exists, naturally. With Cyprus as a template, one Turkey, its Citizens, Individuals; without distinction or discrimination, prepared to defend each other: is Freedom. And within, as Persons, Turkish Constituencies; distinct identities, which Citizens may choose to nurture: is Liberty.
A BBF in Turkey, not unlike a BBF in Cyprus, cannot be reasonably refused.
...intentions count. Consider the USA, and Canada, two examples that represent successful countries politically speaking; both BBF. Peace in Cyprus, and in Turkey, would be hopeful, to say the least.
...if we (read: the rest of the world) betray Cyprus, if we ignore that Cypriots exist, if we allow "Turkishness" to gain this superiority above what is not "Turkish", we betray ourselves; it will not end there.
There are no "deals" on Universal Principals. Lest we Forget.
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