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Re: The US' "landing" on the moon...

Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:49 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:And no, Moses was not known for his scientific discoveries in medicine and quarantine.

Where did anyone say that Moses made medical discoveries? :?

Paphitis wrote: In fact the entire Bible actually defies human logic and science even as we know it today and it simply isn't good enough to just say that humanity isn't good enough to comprehend the cosmic or other Godly matters.

Where did anyone say that humanity isn't good enough for "cosmic or other Godly" matters? (whatever the hell that means) :? :lol:

Be careful Paphitis because misreading, misinterpreting, and then responding with codswallop seems to be a recurring theme with you… :)


You made it seem like a big thing that Moses figured out the notion of quarantining the sick.

Religious people generally try to sometimes argue that Man can not possible fathom the true complexities of the universe and the way it was formed and they also argue that the universe and life on our planet can not possibly have just come into being without the miraculous workings of the trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) as per Genesis in the Old Testament.

Whilst it is true that man isn't even close to working everything out, it still isn't ok to explain what we do not know with Genesis or to make things up as we go along.

At the end of the day, people are free to believe what they want and be people of faith if that is what they want. But it still does not mean that God exists, and that their belief structure is true in any way. What is true is what Science has already proven and backed up with evidence.

I tend to believe that religions however, have their place. It is a belief structure and a moral code based on old fashioned values and virtues which should be respected. I am not militantly Atheistic or anything like that. In fact I am not even opposed to the institution of religion and will even support it. I would otherwise be a hypocrite for sending my children to religious schools, and the reason why I do send them to religious schools is because I actually believe in the old fashioned virtues which today's society is trying to destroy.
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Re: The US' "landing" on the moon...

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:You made it seem like a big thing that Moses figured out the notion of quarantining the sick.

Are you sure? Here's my very first line again...

The bible can also amaze by some of its incredible content… ie: foreknowledge of the fundamentals of modern medicine.


If you had problems with the word "foreknowledge" why didn't you look it up instead of wasting our time here?
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Re: The US' "landing" on the moon...

Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:32 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:You made it seem like a big thing that Moses figured out the notion of quarantining the sick.

Are you sure? Here's my very first line again...

The bible can also amaze by some of its incredible content… ie: foreknowledge of the fundamentals of modern medicine.


If you had problems with the word "foreknowledge" why didn't you look it up instead of wasting our time here?


OK sure. No problem

So what was the foreknowledge then? Explain it.
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Re: The US' "landing" on the moon...

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:39 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:You made it seem like a big thing that Moses figured out the notion of quarantining the sick.

Are you sure? Here's my very first line again...

The bible can also amaze by some of its incredible content… ie: foreknowledge of the fundamentals of modern medicine.


If you had problems with the word "foreknowledge" why didn't you look it up instead of wasting our time here?


OK sure. No problem

So what was the foreknowledge then? Explain it.

:? If I had a baseball bat right now… I swear I’d whack your watermelon!
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Re: The US' "landing" on the moon...

Postby miltiades » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:24 pm

Use your minute logic you plonker. You pretend that you have some education when in fact you are nothing more than a fucking idiot. Get it in your head, there is NO GOD, NO CREATOR Stupid. Its all fucking mythology created by mediaeval man, the morons still stick to the nonsense that millions of stars and living things were magicked by some non existent super power. Adam was ....created by some earthy shit that this so called creator ...blew in it. What absolute crap. Wake up Plonker. The earth was formed some 60 million years after the formation of the sun, your mythological nonsense tell us it took just ....6 days. Bullshit for morons to swallow!!
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Re: The US' "landing" on the moon...

Postby Sotos » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:51 pm

Paphitis wrote:I tend to believe that religions however, have their place. It is a belief structure and a moral code based on old fashioned values and virtues which should be respected. I am not militantly Atheistic or anything like that. In fact I am not even opposed to the institution of religion and will even support it. I would otherwise be a hypocrite for sending my children to religious schools, and the reason why I do send them to religious schools is because I actually believe in the old fashioned virtues which today's society is trying to destroy.


I am not anti-religion either, as long as there are limits and people do not become fanatics who commit crimes in the name of their God and as long as the Church does not interfere in the running of the State.

But what are those "old fashioned virtues which today's society is trying to destroy" and how are those related to religion? Most of the changes of today vs the past, is urbanization (most people living in big cities as opposed to smaller communities where everybody knew each other), globalization (the spread of ideas and products, both good and bad), and the fact that in the past a lot more of the bad things were simply hidden from public view. Objectively, on the whole, this era is the best era so far. Do you really think that living 50, 100, 200 or 1000 years ago was better than today? For sure it wasn't.

The reason I am not anti-religion is because lots of people simply need religion and they would go mad or fall into depression without it. Religion can be useful.
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Re: The US' "landing" on the moon...

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:04 pm

miltiades wrote:your mythological nonsense tell us it took just ....6 days. Bullshit for morons to swallow!!

That’s based on your daft assumption that God’s “day” and your day are the same, but since when has God become a resident of planet Earth?

God can call a “day” whatever he likes… and to us on planet Earth it could be the equivalent of a second, an hour, a century or a millennium!
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Re: The US' "landing" on the moon...

Postby Sotos » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:24 pm

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miltiades wrote:your mythological nonsense tell us it took just ....6 days. Bullshit for morons to swallow!!

That’s based on your daft assumption that God’s “day” and your day are the same, but since when has God become a resident of planet Earth?

God can call a “day” whatever he likes… and to us on planet Earth it could be the equivalent of a second, an hour, a century or a millennium!


But if a "day" is a millennium then 2 "days" would be 2 millennia, right? And the "first day" should be a time period that comes before the "second day", right? Unfortunately for the bible nothing matches up with reality no matter how much time you define a "day" to mean.

And you say that God isn't a resident of planet Earth but clearly the one who wrote the Bible is. According to bible God spends all days creating earthly things, creating the earth from "day" 1, and then and just on 4th day he creates the sun, moon and the stars just to "give light on the earth"! The time period is wrong no matter how long you define a "day" and the order of how things came to being is wrong. The bible contains just myths. If you want the truth in any subject, about e.g. how earth, animals, humans came to being, then you do scientific research, you don't read the bible, because the bible will tell you myths, not the truth.

The existence of some kind of God can not be proven, but can't be 100% disproved either. But the Bible and the God it describes have been proven wrong. The God of the bible isn't any more real than the Greek Gods of mount Olympus... just a myth. Believing that the bible contains anything other than myths written by humans is either naive, or something you do because you need to have this faith in order to be happy.
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Re: The US' "landing" on the moon...

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:50 pm

Sotos wrote:But if a "day" is a millennium then 2 "days" would be 2 millennia, right? And the "first day" should be a time period that comes before the "second day", right? Unfortunately for the bible nothing matches up with reality no matter how much time you define a "day" to mean.

I don’t know how you arrived at that conclusion with so much certainty because it’s not quantifiable.

You have a certain "reality" in mind by which you made a comparison but it's anyone's guess what that reality is.


NB: I'll answer your other paragraphs separately because you brought up too many disjointed things.
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Re: The US' "landing" on the moon...

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:57 pm

Sotos wrote:The time period is wrong no matter how long you define a "day" and the order of how things came to being is wrong.

Man cannot determine the order of anything through calculus, geology, or any other study you may wish to mention and it is foolish to assume that they can.
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