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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby miltiades » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:20 am

Last time i had a few quid saved it somehow got ...lost !!
Money in banks is never 100% safe. Trading what one can afford to lose, exercising discipline above all can be stimulating and at times rewarding.
Set a sell point, if you trade speculatively and stick to it. Currently both of my investments are up, Tomtom at 7.62, I bought at 7.22 euros and Ripple at .51 IbougI bought 44.
As I expect Tomtom to go above 10 euros by mid November, I shall hold out unless it dives down to 7 euros. My " Get Out" point.
Once again I strongly emphasise that I trade according to my own research and you must not accept my word as 100% correct. Invest only what you can afford to lose.
Tomtom will open up today at 7.62 euros , if a sudden surge occurs it could indicate an imminent bid, Microsoft , Apple are eying the stock as well as other predators.
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby miltiades » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:26 am

With a market capitalisation of nearly 21 billion us$. Ripple XRP , currently at $0.51 looks a safe bet, to me. Its a stock that just has to rise and not a speculative one but one to sit on
for a few months.
This CC is traded 24/7 so it does require
Constant surveillance. Remember Bitcoin ??
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:43 am

Tomtom closed up 0.19 yesterday Friday 9th November ending on 7.81 euros.
I do hope that Telematics, a wholly owned subsidiary up for sale on auction has created enough interest to push the price up further leading to a takeover bid for Tomtom.
I'm cautiously confident that Thursday November 15th could see the stock over 10 euros. Markets are volatile at the best of times one can only hedge bets on own research without becoming complacent or greedy. My gut feeling based on extensive research is that come the end of next week, and I could be wrong, I shall have earned enough to keep me in wine for at least 6 months !!!
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:38 am

Maximus, watch this ...pile of shit Monay at 10am Cyprus time. My prediction is that very early on it will hit 8 euros plus.
Cyprusgrumb, I will give you an update at 6.30 pm Cy time !!
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:16 pm

miltiades wrote:Maximus, watch this ...pile of shit Monay at 10am Cyprus time. My prediction is that very early on it will hit 8 euros plus.
Cyprusgrumb, I will give you an update at 6.30 pm Cy time !!


Could be because of the expectation that the company will be bought.
However if in the meantime the buyout actually occurs, all you speculators will lose at least half your money.
Did you set your expected buyout date?
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:39 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
miltiades wrote:Maximus, watch this ...pile of shit Monay at 10am Cyprus time. My prediction is that very early on it will hit 8 euros plus.
Cyprusgrumb, I will give you an update at 6.30 pm Cy time !!


Could be because of the expectation that the company will be bought.
However if in the meantime the buyout actually occurs, all you speculators will lose at least half your money.
Did you set your expected buyout date?


What will happen is the share price will go beyond 9 euros as speculation builds, and if the buyout doesn't eventuate then it may drop back to 8 Euros, and then perhaps steadily fall to 7 euros over a protracted period. It shouldn't go down by 50% because the business is profitable and Tom Tom is a well known GPS manufacturer of some prominence in the marketplace. So investors will always be keen on this company.

So Milti shouldn't lose out because of his stop loss.
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:44 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:
miltiades wrote:Maximus, watch this ...pile of shit Monay at 10am Cyprus time. My prediction is that very early on it will hit 8 euros plus.
Cyprusgrumb, I will give you an update at 6.30 pm Cy time !!


Could be because of the expectation that the company will be bought.
However if in the meantime the buyout actually occurs, all you speculators will lose at least half your money.
Did you set your expected buyout date?


What will happen is the share price will go beyond 9 euros as speculation builds, and if the buyout doesn't eventuate then it may drop back to 8 Euros, and then perhaps steadily fall to 7 euros over a protracted period. It shouldn't go down by 50% because the business is profitable and Tom Tom is a well known GPS manufacturer of some prominence in the marketplace. So investors will always be keen on this company.

So Milti shouldn't lose out because of his stop loss.


Despite the expectation this stock is on a downward trend by 30%/year since Oct 2017.
What makes you think that if the buyout actually occurs Milti will have the time to sell at his stop at 7 price??
This will not happen unless you expect some sort of unreal buyout at higher price than what the stock currently trades.
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:54 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
miltiades wrote:Maximus, watch this ...pile of shit Monay at 10am Cyprus time. My prediction is that very early on it will hit 8 euros plus.
Cyprusgrumb, I will give you an update at 6.30 pm Cy time !!


Could be because of the expectation that the company will be bought.
However if in the meantime the buyout actually occurs, all you speculators will lose at least half your money.
Did you set your expected buyout date?


What will happen is the share price will go beyond 9 euros as speculation builds, and if the buyout doesn't eventuate then it may drop back to 8 Euros, and then perhaps steadily fall to 7 euros over a protracted period. It shouldn't go down by 50% because the business is profitable and Tom Tom is a well known GPS manufacturer of some prominence in the marketplace. So investors will always be keen on this company.

So Milti shouldn't lose out because of his stop loss.


Despite the expectation this stock is on a downward trend by 30%/year since Oct 2017.
What makes you think that if the buyout actually occurs Milti will have the time to sell at his stop at 7 price??
This will not happen unless you expect some sort of unreal buyout at higher price than what the stock currently trades.


It won't be on a downward trend from now on. I see it breaking 10 Euros. It has all the traits of a Bullish stock because of the possibility of the Apple takeover. If Apple take it over, then it could even go 15 Euros.

If the buyout occurs, Milti won't be selling at 7 Euros, he might be selling at 15 Euros or even 20 Euros. If Apple move in, then the stock will go ballistic. Everyone is going to want some shares in it. The problem for Milti will occur if Apple run away from Tom Tom. But he has a stop loss for that too so he has reduced his risk.

So Milti has got in at the right time, and now needs to pick his exit strategy. If the takeover falls through, then he sells out at 7 Euros.
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:27 pm

Paphitis wrote:
It won't be on a downward trend from now on. I see it breaking 10 Euros. It has all the traits of a Bullish stock because of the possibility of the Apple takeover. If Apple take it over, then it could even go 15 Euros.

If the buyout occurs, Milti won't be selling at 7 Euros, he might be selling at 15 Euros or even 20 Euros. If Apple move in, then the stock will go ballistic. Everyone is going to want some shares in it. The problem for Milti will occur if Apple run away from Tom Tom. But he has a stop loss for that too so he has reduced his risk.

So Milti has got in at the right time, and now needs to pick his exit strategy. If the takeover falls through, then he sells out at 7 Euros.


How do you know it won't be on a downward trend from now on when it's has already been on the downward trend for almost a year?
if it's going to be on upward trend then there is less and less incentive for the buyout to ever occur. And in fact the whatever upward push that currently exists will vanish and that may happen suddenly with the announcement that the whatever negotiations for a sellout failed. If this happens Milti will be lucky to be able to sell at his target low of 7.

Considering what he said, I'd personally set the selling target to maximum 8.5. Milti set it to 12!!
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Re: INVESTMENTS

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:36 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
It won't be on a downward trend from now on. I see it breaking 10 Euros. It has all the traits of a Bullish stock because of the possibility of the Apple takeover. If Apple take it over, then it could even go 15 Euros.

If the buyout occurs, Milti won't be selling at 7 Euros, he might be selling at 15 Euros or even 20 Euros. If Apple move in, then the stock will go ballistic. Everyone is going to want some shares in it. The problem for Milti will occur if Apple run away from Tom Tom. But he has a stop loss for that too so he has reduced his risk.

So Milti has got in at the right time, and now needs to pick his exit strategy. If the takeover falls through, then he sells out at 7 Euros.


How do you know it won't be on a downward trend from now on when it's has already been on the downward trend for almost a year?
if it's going to be on upward trend then there is less and less incentive for the buyout to ever occur. And in fact the whatever upward push that currently exists will vanish and that may happen suddenly with the announcement that the whatever negotiations for a sellout failed. If this happens Milti will be lucky to be able to sell at his target low of 7.

Considering what he said, I'd personally set the selling target to maximum 8.5. Milti set it to 12!!


Usually when a company is the subject of a corporate takeover, the trend is always upwards. I've never seen a downward trend when there is takeover speculation.

Now, if you add the fact that the predator company is Apple, then it is PARTY TIME for Tom Tom.

Apple will open Tom Tom to Billions of mobile devices such as IPhone, IPADs and MAC Computers. Profits for Tom Tom will sky Rocket which means money is just changing pockets to another company they own.

No one knows for sure, but it is a stock that has very interesting prospects.

It's the type of stock managed fund managers and instiutional investors would be interested in with Apple lurking in the shadows.
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