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[Paphitis]

We're agreed then, the media makes mistakes!

Get over it FFS!

Oh duh.

But the CM article was a very big mistake. The fact they didn't make any attempt is just completely pathetic!

Yeh most media make mistakes, but most media make an attempt to have some accuracy or due diligence.

[cyprusgrump]

We're agreed then, the media makes mistakes!

Get over it FFS!

Oh duh.

But the CM article was a very big mistake. The fact they didn't make any attempt is just completely pathetic!

Yeh most media make mistakes, but most media make an attempt to have some accuracy or due diligence.

In your bizarre fantasy world I'm sure they do...

[Paphitis]

We're agreed then, the media makes mistakes!

Get over it FFS!

Oh duh.

But the CM article was a very big mistake. The fact they didn't make any attempt is just completely pathetic!

Yeh most media make mistakes, but most media make an attempt to have some accuracy or due diligence.

In your bizarre fantasy world I'm sure they do...

yes they do make phone calls, or even shove recorders in people's faces, and cameras as well.

That is what they do. That is what they are paid to do.

What they do not do is sit in the office all copying and pasting.

And media releases are not written like articles.

[cyprusgrump]

We're agreed then, the media makes mistakes!

Get over it FFS!

Oh duh.

But the CM article was a very big mistake. The fact they didn't make any attempt is just completely pathetic!

Yeh most media make mistakes, but most media make an attempt to have some accuracy or due diligence.

In your bizarre fantasy world I'm sure they do...

yes they do make phone calls, or even shove recorders in people's faces, and cameras as well.

That is what they do. That is what they are paid to do.

What they do not do is sit in the office all copying and pasting.

And media releases are not written like articles.

In your bizarre fantasy world I'm sure they do...

[Paphitis]

We're agreed then, the media makes mistakes!

Get over it FFS!

Oh duh.

But the CM article was a very big mistake. The fact they didn't make any attempt is just completely pathetic!

Yeh most media make mistakes, but most media make an attempt to have some accuracy or due diligence.

In your bizarre fantasy world I'm sure they do...

yes they do make phone calls, or even shove recorders in people's faces, and cameras as well.

That is what they do. That is what they are paid to do.

What they do not do is sit in the office all copying and pasting.

And media releases are not written like articles.

In your bizarre fantasy world I'm sure they do...

Oh hum deja vu!

Yeh, a phone call is all it takes and yes, that is what they do.

[cyprusgrump]

Oh hum deja vu!

Yeh, a phone call is all it takes and yes, that is what they do.

So if you look at my recent example of problem gambling...

Your claim is that they sent out the press release...

...it was received by hundreds of media outlets...

...and then they all called the issuer to fact check? Is that correct? That is what you are claiming isn't it?

So pray explain how they all got the facts completely wrong...?

[Paphitis]

Oh hum deja vu!

Yeh, a phone call is all it takes and yes, that is what they do.

So if you look at my recent example of problem gambling...

Your claim is that they sent out the press release...

...it was received by hundreds of media outlets...

...and then they all called the issuer to fact check? Is that correct? That is what you are claiming isn't it?

So pray explain how they all got the facts completely wrong...?

No, I don't make these kind of claims.

There are 2 possibilities and I am not 100% about either one because they are equally possible.

Possibility 1: BBC wrote this article on their own accord with no media release at all. Yes, most news articles are not the by product of a media release.

Possibility 2: BBC received a short media release from The Gambling Commission announcing their new study into gambling. BBC then contact the Commission for an interview and write the article.

What is certain however, is that the BBC was in contact with the Commission and conducted an interview and obtained some quotes and more information.

[cyprusgrump]

Oh hum deja vu!

Yeh, a phone call is all it takes and yes, that is what they do.

So if you look at my recent example of problem gambling...

Your claim is that they sent out the press release...

...it was received by hundreds of media outlets...

...and then they all called the issuer to fact check? Is that correct? That is what you are claiming isn't it?

So pray explain how they all got the facts completely wrong...?

No, I don't make these kind of claims.

There are 2 possibilities and I am not 100% about either one because they are equally possible.

Possibility 1: BBC wrote this article on their own accord with no media release at all. Yes, most news articles are not the by product of a media release.

Possibility 2: BBC received a short media release from The Gambling Commission announcing their new study into gambling. BBC then contact the Commission for an interview and write the article.

What is certain however, is that the BBC was in contact with the Commission and conducted an interview and obtained some quotes and more information.

You're not certain of that because you have no way of being so...

And if the BBC was responsible for all or at least the bulk of the article how come every other news outlet has an almost identical piece - even with the same headline...?

Remember, I searched for just that headline, "Number of child gamblers quadruples in just two years" and yet I got hundreds of results... How could that possibly be...?

[Paphitis]

Oh hum deja vu!

Yeh, a phone call is all it takes and yes, that is what they do.

So if you look at my recent example of problem gambling...

Your claim is that they sent out the press release...

...it was received by hundreds of media outlets...

...and then they all called the issuer to fact check? Is that correct? That is what you are claiming isn't it?

So pray explain how they all got the facts completely wrong...?

No, I don't make these kind of claims.

There are 2 possibilities and I am not 100% about either one because they are equally possible.

Possibility 1: BBC wrote this article on their own accord with no media release at all. Yes, most news articles are not the by product of a media release.

Possibility 2: BBC received a short media release from The Gambling Commission announcing their new study into gambling. BBC then contact the Commission for an interview and write the article.

What is certain however, is that the BBC was in contact with the Commission and conducted an interview and obtained some quotes and more information.

You're not certain of that because you have no way of being so...

And if the BBC was responsible for all or at least the bulk of the article how come every other news outlet has an almost identical piece - even with the same headline...?

Remember, I searched for just that headline, "Number of child gamblers quadruples in just two years" and yet I got hundreds of results... How could that possibly be...?

Excuse me!

I just said that I am not certain of the presence of a media release. I said there were 2 possibilities.

It is you who is certain, but you lack the evidence and proof.

What is certain, is that the BBC contacted the Commission and obtained the quotes they had in the article they wrote. That is obvious.

Like it is obvious, that the BBC didn't fuck up like the Cyprus Mail and publish utter stupidity!

Wow!

[cyprusgrump]

Excuse me!

I just said that I am not certain of the presence of a media release. I said there were 2 possibilities.

It is you who is certain, but you lack the evidence and proof.

What is certain, is that the BBC contacted the Commission and obtained the quotes they had in the article they wrote. That is obvious.

Like it is obvious, that the BBC didn't fuck up like the Cyprus Mail and publish utter stupidity!

Wow!

Oh good grief!

So your counter claim is that the BBC sent a reporter to the Zenobia for this event then?

Because they never, never ever print anything from a press release?

So when they heard that some 95 year old bloke was going to do a dive in Larnaca they sent a reporter and a photographer to the dive site, took pictures interviews and everything... then back to the UK and published it... Is that it? Do you really believe that? Do you really believe that you can convince anybody of that?

Or, is it as I said from the very start, the story came from a press release, the CM edited it clumsily (as did some other sites actually) but the BBC did not. In fact, neither the BBC nor the Cyprus Mail not any other of the media sites that reported the event and published the picture knew anything about it until the press release arrived?