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Re: now what for the kerds

Postby Maximus » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:49 pm

The Turks would not just be fighting the Kurds though.

They will also have to face the Syrian army because Assad has vowed to recover every inch of Syrian land. The Kurds have asked for his support and the Syrian military have deployed to Manjib.

I was reading an article the other day from a well known source, I tried to find it to include a link but I couldn't and gave up.

The analyst basically wrote that Erdogan has asked the US not to withdraw to help him in Syria to fight ISIL - which was basically a cover for him to fight the Kurds. More or less everyone knows this and his motives cant be trusted. The article was explaining how wrong it would be of the US to remain in Syria to help him at all.

Furthermore the analyst said despite Turkish military numbers and assets, they are not very good at fighting against scattered militia. The Turkish army is good at going up against large army's, primarily to suppress them. They are also disorganized because they rely on others to provide them with the intelligence.

The Turks can barely manage do anything by themselves, unless their opponent is more or less defenseless.
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Re: now what for the kerds

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:25 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I hate to say this, but Trump is far more intelligent than people have given him credit for, including me. He just doesn't like anyone saying "NO" to him. He takes advantage of people thinking he is stupid and doesn't know what he is doing, until they end up on the receiving end. He will benefit politically with the partial government shutdown by turning the Americans against the Democrats, who are in fact are the ones who are keeping the government shut by not giving Trump the money he wants for the "wall" to "keep America safe".

:? I can’t agree with any of this!

Trump is just a bull in a china shop who constantly issues orders like a dictator only to find that most are not doable without the support/approval of others, which he mostly doesn’t have.

Trump reminds me of spoiled Japanese child-emperors of the past, who wasted their tenure constantly being told what they can’t or shouldn’t do, by older and wiser advisers who were effectively running the show.

Erdogan, is very similar in character only he has the 3rd world totalitarianist environment in which to play.


I agree that Trump's behaivour is not very "presidential" of what we have been use to seeing in the past, but he gets his way one way or the other. He knows that his actions gets results, which is why against all odds, he won the presidency.
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Re: now what for the kerds

Postby Lordo » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:04 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:so you think trump is capable of such forward thinking? you must be joking. one by one his cabinet members is abondaning ship and he is struggling to even keep the government employees in their jobs because of his stupidity and mentality which is the normal corporate bully. he may well be impeached soon too. he has bigger problems and we all know he has less attention span than a goldfish.

al i can say is god help the kerds. they did the bidding for israel and america in syria and they will pay the price of it.


I hate to say this, but Trump is far more intelligent than people have given him credit for, including me. He just doesn't like anyone saying "NO" to him. He takes advantage of people thinking he is stupid and doesn't know what he is doing, until they end up on the receiving end. He will benefit politically with the partial government shutdown by turning the Americans against the Democrats, who are in fact are the ones who are keeping the government shut by not giving Trump the money he wants for the "wall" to "keep America safe".

Bringing articles of impeachment against Trump or any president is one thing. Removing him/her from office is another, because it would require 60 from 100 votes in the senate to do so, which means, at present time, more than 10 Republican senators will need to join all of the senate Democrats to have enough votes for his removal. I can't see it happening.

his own people refer to him as an idiot. they remove certain orders from his bundle and he is not even aware of what he is supposed to sign. only a fool can look at another and see him as inteligent.

As to impeachment, time will come when all his allies will not know which way to turn.there are 49 democrats and they need 11 republican senators. he needed 60 to get his wall built autharised from last year by the previous congress when it was in the hands of the republicans and he could not get it. Even Republican senators voted against it.

soon we will find out exactly how he has broken the law and the republicans will have to impeach whether they like it or not.
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Re: now what for the kerds

Postby Lordo » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:10 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I hate to say this, but Trump is far more intelligent than people have given him credit for, including me. He just doesn't like anyone saying "NO" to him. He takes advantage of people thinking he is stupid and doesn't know what he is doing, until they end up on the receiving end. He will benefit politically with the partial government shutdown by turning the Americans against the Democrats, who are in fact are the ones who are keeping the government shut by not giving Trump the money he wants for the "wall" to "keep America safe".

:? I can’t agree with any of this!

Trump is just a bull in a china shop who constantly issues orders like a dictator only to find that most are not doable without the support/approval of others, which he mostly doesn’t have.

Trump reminds me of spoiled Japanese child-emperors of the past, who wasted their tenure constantly being told what they can’t or shouldn’t do, by older and wiser advisers who were effectively running the show.

Erdogan, is very similar in character only he has the 3rd world totalitarianist environment in which to play.


I agree that Trump's behaivour is not very "presidential" of what we have been use to seeing in the past, but he gets his way one way or the other. He knows that his actions gets results, which is why against all odds, he won the presidency.

wil self got it spot on when he described trum as a grubby little opporotunist. he play the tune of the red necks and with the help of the religous fascists and the republicans got in. even though he did not win the popular vote. the electoral college has to go. what exactly is wrong with a normal democratic system. why can't they count each vote for each person in each state and sum them up.. is it too hard or something.
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Re: now what for the kerds

Postby Maximus » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:18 pm

Lordo wrote: what exactly is wrong with a normal democratic system. why can't they count each vote for each person in each state and sum them up.. is it too hard or something.


Why don't you tell us.

This simple ancient Greek concept has eluded the comprehension skills of your community for decades.

You are probably one of the most 'qualified' people to answer your own question.
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Re: now what for the kerds

Postby Lordo » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:29 pm

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote: what exactly is wrong with a normal democratic system. why can't they count each vote for each person in each state and sum them up.. is it too hard or something.


Why don't you tell us.

This simple ancient Greek concept has eluded the comprehension skills of your community for decades.

You are probably one of the most 'qualified' people to answer your own question.

how many time. boses fores na sou da bo gavole.

you can have a simple democratic system when you have two communities. the tergs and the kerds have proved it in terggy.
bbf or two states
but i get a feeling
itsgoing to be
two states oh yeah
two states oh yeah.

gadalaves hade yalla goudala
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Re: now what for the kerds

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:13 pm

Lordo wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I hate to say this, but Trump is far more intelligent than people have given him credit for, including me. He just doesn't like anyone saying "NO" to him. He takes advantage of people thinking he is stupid and doesn't know what he is doing, until they end up on the receiving end. He will benefit politically with the partial government shutdown by turning the Americans against the Democrats, who are in fact are the ones who are keeping the government shut by not giving Trump the money he wants for the "wall" to "keep America safe".

:? I can’t agree with any of this!

Trump is just a bull in a china shop who constantly issues orders like a dictator only to find that most are not doable without the support/approval of others, which he mostly doesn’t have.

Trump reminds me of spoiled Japanese child-emperors of the past, who wasted their tenure constantly being told what they can’t or shouldn’t do, by older and wiser advisers who were effectively running the show.

Erdogan, is very similar in character only he has the 3rd world totalitarianist environment in which to play.


I agree that Trump's behaivour is not very "presidential" of what we have been use to seeing in the past, but he gets his way one way or the other. He knows that his actions gets results, which is why against all odds, he won the presidency.

wil self got it spot on when he described trum as a grubby little opporotunist. he play the tune of the red necks and with the help of the religous fascists and the republicans got in. even though he did not win the popular vote. the electoral college has to go. what exactly is wrong with a normal democratic system. why can't they count each vote for each person in each state and sum them up.. is it too hard or something.


The main purpose of the electoral college system over popular votes in the presidential election is, that the very small states with only few electoral votes play bigger part in the election results than their few hundred thousand popular votes in a country of over 300 million potential voters. The EC system allows the small states to make a difference in the presidential elections and they can and do make a difference, which presidential candidates pay visits to appeal for the votes just to win those few EC votes to reach the magic number 270. Without the EC system, politicians would ignore the small states and not visit them and instead only visit the larger states.
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Re: now what for the kerds

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:28 am

and what difference does that make exactly. are they obliged to inmplement what they here in any way?
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Re: now what for the kerds

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:40 am

Maximus wrote:The Turks would not just be fighting the Kurds though.

They will also have to face the Syrian army because Assad has vowed to recover every inch of Syrian land. The Kurds have asked for his support and the Syrian military have deployed to Manjib.

I was reading an article the other day from a well known source, I tried to find it to include a link but I couldn't and gave up.

The analyst basically wrote that Erdogan has asked the US not to withdraw to help him in Syria to fight ISIL - which was basically a cover for him to fight the Kurds. More or less everyone knows this and his motives cant be trusted. The article was explaining how wrong it would be of the US to remain in Syria to help him at all.

Furthermore the analyst said despite Turkish military numbers and assets, they are not very good at fighting against scattered militia. The Turkish army is good at going up against large army's, primarily to suppress them. They are also disorganized because they rely on others to provide them with the intelligence.

The Turks can barely manage do anything by themselves, unless their opponent is more or less defenseless.

what are you saying that all other countries have managed to defeat militias in their country but terggy cannot. show me one country that has done it.
did the russians defeat the militia in afghanistan
did the usa defeat the vietcong
did israel defeat hammas or hizbollah
did the brits defeat the militia in ireland or cyprus or any other country. hell brits could not defeat india and they did not even do an armed struggle.

what the terggs will do is take a slice of syria, then assad will take the rest and the kerds wil lbe left with their mouths wide open. that is a tc saying btw. they had no choice, they were dommed if they joined in the fighting and they were doomed if they did not. the real blame lay with the yanks and israel who believed that russia wil lallow them to topple one of her allies. it is an expensive mistake but the americans will not pay anythiong for it. the syrian people as a whole have paid the price and the kerds will pay the ultimate price.
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Re: now what for the kerds

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:54 am

...March is not that far away, maybe too soon already. In any case those not "Turkish" will pay for the fluff whatever it is that Erdogan will think of to get votes.

Erdo may lose it by that time, what with so many pots on the fire at the same time. Ocalan is there in prison, maybe Erdogan will set him free.
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