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Re: EU court rules today

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:08 am

...a revival of the Commonwealth?
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Re: EU court rules today

Postby miltiades » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:35 am

cyprusgrump wrote:So Milti...

Pound is stable over the weekend at £1 = €1.19 as the markets are closed...

Where do you think it will be at close of play tomorrow...?

We shall wait and see over the next 11 months. We are still " tied" to the EU.
Lets see how the financial markets react over the next few months. Sterling is still way down from pre referendum level.
You are obviously reading the crap posted by Pathetic Paphitis, I wonder who will have the last laughs.
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Re: EU court rules today

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:25 pm

Paphitis wrote:Yes of course I can enlighten you about the actual elements.

The European Parliament was responsible for more than 60% of UK Laws, rather than the elected MPs of Westminster or the UK Parliament.

EU countries were free to poach British Fisheries.
Free movement of cheap labour at the expense of British Workers.
Freedom of movement
The UK had to pay about 15 billion every year to the EU in order to fund the mega bureaucracy.
EU censorship laws.
EU laws restricting the media.
Banning national flags from Parliament and banning other national Anthems and symbols
EU controls and restrictions on trade from non EU states
Forbidding trade deals with other EU states like the US, China, Australia - you know how ridiculous it is to restrict the UK the ability to even negotiate with Australia, NZ, and Canada which even have the same Head of State as Britain and is probably closer to these countries that it could ever be with the continent?
Tilting competition in favour of German manufacturers.
Precluding countries like Greece, Cyprus, and Italy from Quantitive Easing for a softer GFC landing rather belting the shit out of the masses into total poverty and despair
The rolling back of state Sovereignty for the centralized bureaucracy
Stupid PC laws and restrictions of free speech.
Germany protecting Turkey's interests with regard to oil reserves in the Greek EEZ and preventing the Greek FM from attending the Libya Summit despite the illegal MOU with Erdogan
The reprimand against a Greek MEP who tore a Turkish Flag in the EU Speudo parliament as "hate speech"

https://www.politico.eu/article/google- ... terrorist/

https://thenextweb.com/contributors/201 ... -machines/

The day is coming when the Greek PM is going to be making a phone call to Macron and Trump warning them that the Hellenic armed Forces are on full alert because they are going to take a hardline against illegal drilling.


The European Parliament is an elected body that used to have British MEP's in it aking laws for all of Europe. The Net cost of EU membership to the UK was 147 billion.
The UK has already suffered Brexit related losses of about 113 Billion and they are expect to hit 200 billion quite fast.

On Australian Trade, about 30% of Aus export trade is with China, just under 4% with the UK. Aus import trade 17% with China, mor than four times the value of the UK trade
while according to 2017 stats UK trade was about 642 Billion of which about 342 Billion was with the EU 300 billion was the rest of the world and Australia was number 19 on the list.

If Bojo the Clown blows it then he will find it hard to export to the EU and the rest of the world will be happy to fill that gap. That is going to hurt more than the spread of losses to the EU not selling so much to the UK, or what may be left of it if the Welsh and Scots get there way - and an independent Scotland will likely get back in, quite quick.
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Re: EU court rules today

Postby Mustiejodu » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:37 am

There is all ways a price to pay for independence. The people chose Brexit ( freedom) not BOJO. Surely you can appreciate this independence that you acquired not that long ago from ruled by the BRITS in Cyprus
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Re: EU court rules today

Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:12 am

Mustiejodu wrote:There is all ways a price to pay for independence. The people chose Brexit ( freedom) not BOJO. Surely you can appreciate this independence that you acquired not that long ago from ruled by the BRITS in Cyprus

Was Britain occupied ? By joe, almost 60 years living in the UK and silly me I never realized !!!
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Re: EU court rules today

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:52 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Yes of course I can enlighten you about the actual elements.

The European Parliament was responsible for more than 60% of UK Laws, rather than the elected MPs of Westminster or the UK Parliament.

EU countries were free to poach British Fisheries.
Free movement of cheap labour at the expense of British Workers.
Freedom of movement
The UK had to pay about 15 billion every year to the EU in order to fund the mega bureaucracy.
EU censorship laws.
EU laws restricting the media.
Banning national flags from Parliament and banning other national Anthems and symbols
EU controls and restrictions on trade from non EU states
Forbidding trade deals with other EU states like the US, China, Australia - you know how ridiculous it is to restrict the UK the ability to even negotiate with Australia, NZ, and Canada which even have the same Head of State as Britain and is probably closer to these countries that it could ever be with the continent?
Tilting competition in favour of German manufacturers.
Precluding countries like Greece, Cyprus, and Italy from Quantitive Easing for a softer GFC landing rather belting the shit out of the masses into total poverty and despair
The rolling back of state Sovereignty for the centralized bureaucracy
Stupid PC laws and restrictions of free speech.
Germany protecting Turkey's interests with regard to oil reserves in the Greek EEZ and preventing the Greek FM from attending the Libya Summit despite the illegal MOU with Erdogan
The reprimand against a Greek MEP who tore a Turkish Flag in the EU Speudo parliament as "hate speech"

https://www.politico.eu/article/google- ... terrorist/

https://thenextweb.com/contributors/201 ... -machines/

The day is coming when the Greek PM is going to be making a phone call to Macron and Trump warning them that the Hellenic armed Forces are on full alert because they are going to take a hardline against illegal drilling.


The European Parliament is an elected body that used to have British MEP's in it aking laws for all of Europe. The Net cost of EU membership to the UK was 147 billion.
The UK has already suffered Brexit related losses of about 113 Billion and they are expect to hit 200 billion quite fast.

On Australian Trade, about 30% of Aus export trade is with China, just under 4% with the UK. Aus import trade 17% with China, mor than four times the value of the UK trade
while according to 2017 stats UK trade was about 642 Billion of which about 342 Billion was with the EU 300 billion was the rest of the world and Australia was number 19 on the list.

If Bojo the Clown blows it then he will find it hard to export to the EU and the rest of the world will be happy to fill that gap. That is going to hurt more than the spread of losses to the EU not selling so much to the UK, or what may be left of it if the Welsh and Scots get there way - and an independent Scotland will likely get back in, quite quick.


I would like to see where and how or any proof on what BREXIT has cost the UK. I ask this because as of now, nothing has really changed. And the UK still continues to pay the 147 billion until the end of year.

What the UK has chosen is its sovereignty. The UK wants to forge new relations with other non EU members - like USA, Canada, China, India and many more non EU States. There is absolutely no question in my mind that all other regions like North America, Australasia, Asia and even South America, and Africa are outperforming the EU by a substantial amount. That's because it is us who are moving towards actual free trade without all the red tape and imposition of new laws from external sources.

The UK will continue to remain a most formidable financial market and will from next year have free trade with the USA, Canada, NZ and Australia which is a market place that exceeds the EU. Then it will proceed with others like China, japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and India. Then we will see who will be laughing.

And on top of hat, they will have their cake and eat it too. That's because they will get a free trade deal with the EU, whilst enjoying the best of both worlds. They are dictating the terms now, as the EU lost and to the victor the spoils.

But rather than gloat, it's time for cool heads. The UK will surely benefit from a free trade deal with the EU as would the EU. in fact the EU needs it more than the UK as the UK will have access to a far larger and more stable North American market before we even take into consideration Australia and other Asian markets.

What the EU did to the UK was absolutely terrible. They did the same thing to Greece and Cyprus. They tried to embarrass the UK on the international stage. It backfired! Now the embarrassment is on the EU. The EU has become a laughing stock.

Whilst you guys act like little Hitlers, the Americans, Chinese and Indians are going from strength to strength and the EU doesn't dictate any of the international terms. If the US or China sneeze, you will catch a cold and totally crash and disintegrate. Whereas, they are more robust and resilient.

I will tell you why I supported the UK. I supported them because I hate injustice. What the EU was doing for 3.5 years was a total injustice to the UK and to their democratic processes. The EU tried to crap all over the UK's institutions. But the EU forgot they were dealing with Brits. The UK was always going to fight back and one thing you can be certain of is that they don't give up. They believe in their country and they know they will innovate and survive.

The UK is currently in a very good place. They have thrown down the gauntlet telling the EU they are happy o go to WTO Trade terms with the EU, although they would certainly prefer free trade and cooperation. Right here, the UK has proven to be far larger and humble than the EU. They are willing to cooperate with Europe and the EU in every aspect from free trade to security. So the opportunities for the UK and EU remain. And now the EU appear to be backpedaling to a position of cooperation as well, which certainly was not the case in the last 3.5 years.

The danger for the EU will continue to be the strengthening UK economy. Yes it is true they are the best performing economy in Europe right now. If they do even better, then the horses would have bolted for the EU and that is going to be a problem for them.

Euro-skepticism today is alive and well. It isn't just the UK, but it's also Italy, Hungary, Netherlands, Sweden and Austria.
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