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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:04 pm

Although he's careful in making sure he talks in the acceptably correct terms on the important threads - in order to stay on the right side of the fence with the main players of this forum - am I really the only one who perceives the fact the man's actually a total idiot? :?
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Lordo » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:29 pm

Londonrake wrote:Although he's careful in making sure he talks in the acceptably correct terms on the important threads - in order to stay on the right side of the fence with the main players of this forum - am I really the only one who perceives the fact the man's actually a total idiot? :?

You are full of shit more than Max.
How the fuck can total idiot do what you are suggesting?
What kind of an idiotic fuckin comment is that?
Ask yourself that question?

Clearly you do not understand.

I have never tried to to be acceptable on anything or to anyone any time and I am not about to start now. I have had run-ins with everybody on this forum except RW, I have had no cause.

If you really want to understand me, you have to figure out when to take seriously what I post and when I am joking. Unless you have the intelligence to do that, you will never understand.

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:49 pm

I have absolutely no desire at all to "understand" you.

Here's a thread where aviation matters are generally discussed. There's an incident with a Boeing 777 that's raised. A bit of harmless banter about Paphitis follows. You come in out of your La la desolation with some total bullshit post about herding goats. In Turkish FFS! :eyecrazy:

You're an idiot. My view of you is you're the forum equivalent of Rodney Trotter. A plonker. Amusingly gormless, fondly accepted but mostly ignored.

Let's get this back to discussing aircraft and related incidents?

As you're recently so fond of saying......................... bugger off! :wink: :lol:
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:46 pm

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:35 am

Another nail in the coffin Paphitis? :wink:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65676421

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:45 pm

Londonrake wrote:Another nail in the coffin Paphitis? :wink:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65676421

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Another generation and even I will be able to fly one of those future planes at the age of 90+ whilst having my Gin & Tonic in my private crew‘s cabin with an iPad! :D
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:00 pm

Londonrake wrote:Another nail in the coffin Paphitis? :wink:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65676421

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Not sure what you mean by another nail in the coffin. we have had automation for decades now, all the way down to 200FT with the correct Category of ILS/GLS Augmented/MLS approach systems.

But the article went all funny when they mentioned Automated Emergency Descents.

Automation and Emergency descents just don't mix well.

Imagine a decompression at 35000FT. You have about 1 minute of normal consciousness. The clock is ticking before you fall asleep for eternity.

So what needs to occur is that the aircraft has to get from 35000FT down to below 12000FT very quickly.

Tick tock tick tock. The Grim reaper is on its way.

So, first things first! Need to don the oxygen masks, and breath that sweet Oxygen.

Then it's down we go, with levers down to flight idle, and a rapid dive at about 8000 FPM. How is that for a nice amusement park thrill for the passengers?

The problem with automation is that it can work against you and can be a good recipe for a loss of situational awareness.

That's the great thing about Boeing aircraft. The automation is there but the Merikans do not seem to want to take it as far as Airbus, Bombardier, and Embraer. Which is why most pilots seem to prefer Boeing aircraft as a general rule.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:05 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Another nail in the coffin Paphitis? :wink:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65676421

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Another generation and even I will be able to fly one of those future planes at the age of 90+ whilst having my Gin & Tonic in my private crew‘s cabin with an iPad! :D


No you won't. Flying an aircraft is easy. But the problem is, that is only about 3% of what pilots do. All the other considerations, decision making, planning, FCOM procedures, briefings, fuel, trim, weather, and systems management are just too numerous to mention on a forum like this.

And secondly, you would not be able to fly non-visual, because it is very likely you would even interfere with the automation because you are spatially disorientated and have the leans. It takes years of training. Just because the Autopilot is on, doesn't just mean you sit there fat dum and happy. Especially this can't be the case on an approach. If it was the case, none of us would pass the sim and flight line checks. There are no autopilots on a sim check. It's all hand flown and to top it all off, 85% of it is One Engine Out and asymmetric and 100% is nonvisual too and at night with thunderstorms to your left, to your right, ahead and behind you.

Now imagine this, on a parallel ILS approach, non-visual trying to maintain the Glidepath and Localiser with 2 dots deflection triggering break out procedures on both runways, costing thousands of dollars and a safety incident report and getting a nice how ya going letter from the FAA and a please explain from the regional safety manager.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:21 pm

Come on Paphitis. Don’t spoil a good windup. :D :wink:
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:26 pm

Londonrake wrote:Come on Paphitis. Don’t spoil a good windup. :D :wink:


I just had a sim check 2 weeks ago. 8 hours in the sim, over 2 days.

They are not fun. The only good thing about them is a sense of accomplishment when walking out of the damn thing on day 2, and the dinner and beers with your sim mate afterwards.
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