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Re: Assange arrested!

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:21 pm

Thank you for your opinions but I really could not be bothered to read all that ..... you have, as usual, gone back several years, references to multiple previous posts and it ends up ............. 'ALL ABOUT ME! AGAIN! :roll:

I asked just one question ....... which of course you have ignored.......... regarding two identical 'breaches' of International Law:

How do you justify Israel annexing the Syrian Golan after taking it by an act of war, without the consent of the Syrian inhabitants still there and then condemn Russia for doing the same thing but at the request of the Crimean people clearly demonstrated in a fully democratic vote?

Or is that too difficult to explain? :?: :roll:
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Re: Assange arrested!

Postby Londonrake » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:03 pm

You surprise me. I've read some of your posts which were more than twice that length. Enjoyable in some cases. Much preferable to your (usual MO) simply linking to one of your preferred - not at all biased - opinion shops - for somebody else's views. Or your obvious cut 'n' paste stuff from the other forums you inhabit.

Actually, it's not at all like you to TLDR due to length. That would be hypocritical, given your own propensity for verbosity - and one of your good qualities is - that you're a terrible fibber. :lol:

So, you will know of course that your (oh so typical) "equivalence" question is answered in that post. Let's play your silly game though. Because the population weren't being shelled regularly and weren't listening to frequent, bellicose threats from Kiev to genocidally eliminate the people of Crimea? :roll: What about the equivalent situation on Mars though? Any port in a "debate" storm. :lol:

Was the Turkish intervention in the north of Cyprus - a similar act of war, by a similar, vastly militarily superior, nation - because it was "at the request of the TC people" justifiable? And, if they held a referendum up there and a majority voted to become part of Turkey do you think that would be just and righteous in International Law? Please do tell - and explain - what exactly would be the difference between that and what happened in the Ukraine? I think they're very relevant questions, particularly to people living with that situation here. I believe that they deserve answers, rather than being blanked. Don't you? :?


BTW - Did you get the thing about Javid? :?
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Re: Assange arrested!

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:49 pm

https://www.dw.com/en/assange-extraditi ... newsletter

British Judge Emma Arbuthnot of the Westminster Magistrates' Court ruled on Friday that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's full extradition hearing will begin on February 25, 2020.
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Re: Assange arrested!

Postby Londonrake » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:03 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:https://www.dw.com/en/assange-extradition-hearing-set-for-february-2020/a-49209381?maca=en-newsletter_en_bulletin-2097-html-newsletter

British Judge Emma Arbuthnot of the Westminster Magistrates' Court ruled on Friday that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's full extradition hearing will begin on February 25, 2020.


Thanks for the post. That seems a long time to wait. I imagine it fits in with his sentence for jumping bail though. That in order to avoid having to go back to Sweden and answer accusations of rape there.
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Re: Assange arrested!

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:18 am

Londonrake wrote:You surprise me. I've read some of your posts which were more than twice that length. Enjoyable in some cases. Much preferable to your (usual MO) simply linking to one of your preferred - not at all biased - opinion shops - for somebody else's views. Or your obvious cut 'n' paste stuff from the other forums you inhabit.

Actually, it's not at all like you to TLDR due to length. That would be hypocritical, given your own propensity for verbosity - and one of your good qualities is - that you're a terrible fibber. :lol:

So, you will know of course that your (oh so typical) "equivalence" question is answered in that post. Let's play your silly game though. Because the population weren't being shelled regularly and weren't listening to frequent, bellicose threats from Kiev to genocidally eliminate the people of Crimea? :roll: What about the equivalent situation on Mars though? Any port in a "debate" storm. :lol:

Was the Turkish intervention in the north of Cyprus - a similar act of war, by a similar, vastly militarily superior, nation - because it was "at the request of the TC people" justifiable? And, if they held a referendum up there and a majority voted to become part of Turkey do you think that would be just and righteous in International Law? Please do tell - and explain - what exactly would be the difference between that and what happened in the Ukraine? I think they're very relevant questions, particularly to people living with that situation here. I believe that they deserve answers, rather than being blanked. Don't you? :?


BTW - Did you get the thing about Javid? :?


So ..... you still can't provide any justification for your (Western) different attitudes to annexation by Israel vs annexation by Russia ? You just throw another totally unrelated event into the hat ..... Turkey/Cyprus ! :roll:
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Re: Assange arrested!

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:24 am

Londonrake wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:https://www.dw.com/en/assange-extradition-hearing-set-for-february-2020/a-49209381?maca=en-newsletter_en_bulletin-2097-html-newsletter

British Judge Emma Arbuthnot of the Westminster Magistrates' Court ruled on Friday that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's full extradition hearing will begin on February 25, 2020.


Thanks for the post. That seems a long time to wait. I imagine it fits in with his sentence for jumping bail though. That in order to avoid having to go back to Sweden and answer accusations of rape there.


Didn't you hear, the Swedes will not extradite him for the charges in Sweden? If he got 50 weeks for jumping bail ...... and gets time off for good behaviour he could leave prison before that date and fly to Moscow and seek Russian protection. :roll:
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Re: Assange arrested!

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:25 pm

RH:

So ..... you still can't provide any justification for your (Western) different attitudes to annexation by Israel vs annexation by Russia ? You just throw another totally unrelated event into the hat ..... Turkey/Cyprus ! :roll:


LR ....... Let me help you out .... well not me exactly ...... because I only have my opinion but this lady seems to know what she is talking about! :roll:

Golan ……….. it has nothing to do with defence it’s all about water! The dangers of recognizing Israel’s annexation of Golan.

A Dangerous Precedent: US Recognition of Israel’s Annexation of the Syrian Golan - The Real News Network,

Greg Wilpert and with him …………. to analyze the US move to recognize the annexation of Syrian Golan.......... is Phyllis Bennis. She’s a fellow and director of the New Internationalism Project at the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington, DC, and she recently published an updated edition of her book Understanding the Palestinian-Israeli conflict: A Primer.

Transcript only .......

https://therealnews.com/stories/a-dangerous-precedent-us-recognition-of-israels-annexation-of-the-syrian-golan
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Re: Assange arrested!

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:53 am

Thank you GB for signing Assange’s extradition order.

He will now face the law. :D

This guy has caused enough damage and endangered so many lives.
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Re: Assange arrested!

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:35 am

Paphitis wrote:Thank you GB for signing Assange’s extradition order.

He will now face the law. :D

This guy has caused enough damage and endangered so many lives.


Thank goodness not all Australians think like you ...... as you quoted your wife “That could have been me!”. She obviously does not have the same perspective of Assange’s crimes as you do? Maybe you should do your patriotic duty and tell the authorities of her likely transgressions? That is what they used to do in the old USSR days, blow the whistle on family members for crimes against the State and the US seems to be heading in that direction ..... :roll:

There is a global war on journalism – By John Pilger

Some quotes ....... a rather lengthy interview but he makes a lot of good points:

The political editor of one of Murdoch’s papers, The Sunday Telegraph, watched as her house was ransacked and her personal belongings, intimate belongings, rifled. She had reported on the extent of official spying on Australians by the Australian government. Something similar has happened in France where [President Emmanuel] Macron’s police have moved against journalists on the magazine, Disclose.

Assange predicted this while he was being smeared and abused. He was saying that the world was changing and that so-called liberal democracies were becoming autocracies. A democracy that sends its police against journalists and carries away their notes and hard drives simply because those journalists have revealed what governments have not wanted people to know is not a democracy.

..... and:

Let’s look at who is actually in the crosshairs. WikiLeaks co-published the Afghanistan and Iraq War Logs in 2010, in collaboration with a range of media organizations: Der Spiegel in Germany, The New York Times, the Guardian and Espresso. The co-publishers of the Iraq material were also Al Jazeera, Le Monde, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism in London, Channel 4’s “Dispatches” in London, the Iraq Body Count project in the U.K., RUV (Iceland), SVT (Sweden) and so it goes on.

There’s a list of individual journalists who reported this and worked with Assange. They echoed his work; they were collaborators in the literal sense. I’m looking at a list right now: On The New York Times there is Mark Mazzetti, Jane Perlez, Eric Schmitt, Andrew W. Lehren, C. J. Chivers, Carlotta Gall, Jacob Harris, Alan McLean. On the Guardian there is Nick Davies, David Leigh, Declan Walsh, Simon Tisdall … and so it goes on. All these journalists are in the crosshairs. I don’t believe that many will find themselves in the dire straits in which Julian Assange finds himself because they don’t present a danger to the system that has reacted against Assange and Chelsea Manning; but they have, prima facie, committed the same “crime,” that is, publishing documents that the U.S. government did not want made public. In other words, they are as “guilty” as Assange of journalism.

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Re: Assange arrested!

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:13 am

Don’t worry, but the majority of Aussies agree with me.
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