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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Maximus » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:37 pm

Lordo wrote:
Maximus wrote:The international community does not recognize the “tRNA”

They recognize the republic of Cyprus and her eez that wraps around the whole island.

Everyone, even turkey refer the the natural resources being in Cyprus eez. Do you not read and listen to the news, it’s always to referred to as cyprus’s Eez.

Do you get that? It’s Cyprus’s Eez which turkey and the “trnc” as entities have no right to.

When will you wake up and realize you are showing the world that your positions are illegitimate.

They have told you already many times as well that the occupation is illegal and turkey has to withdraw.... :roll:

you are right in every way except one. and that is the international community has realised the mistake they have made in recognising you and leaving the tcs stateless and of course once in the eu the tcs were no longer stateless. but when it comes to resources they will turn a blind eye towhat ever terggy doesto balance out their mistake. what goes arounf come around my single cell brained friend.


I think you are still dreaming.

This is part of the problem.

Your side doesn’t want a solution because you still have dreams of getting recognition from the international community.

In the meantime, you want a bit of this and a bit of that and support the illegal occupation(turkey) and each argument contradicts the other.

You made the international community dizzy. They don’t want to waste their time with a bunch of fraudulent scammers.
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:21 am

Wednesday, June 12, 2019
Cyprus offshore: Turkey turns up the heat
https://www.petroleum-economist.com/art ... p-the-heat


...the Gas in question is neither "Greek", or "Turkish", it is Cypriot.

If Mr. Akinci is sincere, as a Cypriot, he would consider what Cypriots may gain from the work Turkey has been licensed to execute for them. If he is sincere, with the best interests of Cypriots in mind, he may realise that this exploration does not necessarily have to be linked to the Problem. The good-will, good-faith, trust, and respect he seeks, can be demonstrated.

...while Mr. Erdogan has "tossed out a window", the Treaty of Lausanne, it does not mean that the EU, and the rest of the world will follow. While he seeks supremacy over and under the Eastern Mediterranean, it does not mean that his threats will result in Cyprus becoming his tribute for otherwise keeping the Peace. He intends to point the S-400s he will soon receive from Russia, southward toward Cyprus and the sea. Is Cyprus (along with the rest of the world) the threat he is defending himself from? Something to think about. I ask, is he preparing Turkey for war? Accordingly, those against these ambitions should prepare for this war, indeed. And if Mr. Akinci is sincere, his support for "Turkishness" may cease entirely.

...he will have to decide, soon, as a Cypriot, and Turkish, what Legacy it is he holds most dear, and which one in affect he will necessarily betray, to "be" Turkish Cypriot, or "Cypriot Turk". My hope is he will not forget who voted for him.
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Maximus » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:22 pm

Some drips of the possible targeted measures the eu will take against turkeys illegal drilling activities are starting to seep through.

More will be known in due time.

For now, this includes,

... Suspension of turkeys pre eu accession assistance. About 145 million euro.
... re-evaluation of the European central banks investment activities in turkey.
... suspension of top eu officials meetings with turkey. I read this as turkeys officials being barred from the eu.
... targeted legal measures against persons and companies operating illegally in cyprus’s eez.

This is not the full list but this alone does not sound like a strong enough message and response.

Meanwhile, Egypt, France and the uk, have urged the immediate de-escalation of the situation in the east med. and call on turkey to respect cyprus’s Sovereign integrity.

The uk in particular says she treats the deescalation as a priority and recognizes the right of the republic of Cyprus to exploit any natural resources in its eez. The uk Calls on turkey to respect international law and dialogue to solve disputes.

Egypt says that turkey is escalating the situation and calls on the Turkish authorities to respect international law and deesculate the situation urgently.
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Humanist1 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:20 pm

[maximus said] "They have told you already many times as well that the occupation is illegal and turkey has to withdraw".... :roll:

Yes they have but the EU and Britain aren’t making them leave.

Lordo you are stateless at your choice. My personal advise to you is to urge your leader to ask the RoC to allow you to take up your positions within the government.
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Maximus » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:42 pm

I get the impression from lordo that most of them would rather do one to turkey if the trnc collapses. Not that I can distinguish accurately who is who, but the general politics emanating from there suggests this to me.

Their hatred for the Greek or GC seems to prohibit them from “living together” in a democratic state. Even in a separate state, they can’t live separately, they want to move in to the state belonging to the people they hate too.....

3rd world schizo mentality....
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:18 pm

tcs were ready to accept bbf. where each federal state would be able to run their state without interference from the other, using the same federal rules. you claimed that was allowing terggy to take control of roc.

when you are debating with somebody with no logic, it soon becomes pointless.
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Maximus » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:25 pm

Lordo wrote:tcs were ready to accept bbf. where each federal state would be able to run their state without interference from the other, using the same federal rules. you claimed that was allowing terggy to take control of roc.

when you are debating with somebody with no logic, it soon becomes pointless.


I have no idea what you are talking about but That kind of sounds like two separate states.

What’s the point of the federal government?
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Humanist1 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:32 pm

lordo’s idea of a Federal government is based on racial and reigious segregation. AFederation can work as it does in many Countries.
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:38 pm

Humanist1 wrote:lordo’s idea of a Federal government is based on racial and reigious segregation. AFederation can work as it does in many Countries.

no it is not. where did I say that gc could not live in the northern state? all should be able to live where ever they choose to live.
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Maximus » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:42 pm

Lordo wrote:
Humanist1 wrote:lordo’s idea of a Federal government is based on racial and reigious segregation. AFederation can work as it does in many Countries.

no it is not. where did I say that gc could not live in the northern state? all should be able to live where ever they choose to live.


What is the point of bbf then? What is the point of zones?

The tc leadership put quotas on everything. Isn’t that the truth?
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