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Re: extracting resources

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:31 am

Just reading an article in the FT

https://www.ft.com/content/83d4ed81-838 ... caccf8fa0c

one of the comments given from a Turkish perception management associate states.

here you are questioning Turkeys role as it’s against Greek, Cypriot and Israel interests.
What about the interest of Turkish Cypriots who have not been consulted by the Greek Cypriots or Turkey which has legal rights as she is not a signatory to UNCLOS 82 and is in her rights to recognise her maritime borders .


Complete oxymoron,

Basically what this person is saying is that Turkey does not recognise the law but she has legal rights under the law to recognize her sea boundary wherever she sees fit. Europeans should therefor support Turkey against their own members and contrary to international law because it is Turkeys right.

logically and rationally, this is incorrect but what can you do when you try to defend an indefensible position.

:roll:

I have been reading a lot of comments on twitter, and other social media platforms recently. I have been reading some disgusting things in general but from Turkish quarters, they are under the beleif that Greece is committing provocative and aggressive acts against Turkey and they are talking about war, stealing islands and raping women....

Its hard to ignore the contradictions and delusions of grandeur.
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Re: extracting resources

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:43 pm

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Re: extracting resources

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:28 pm

...while Libya, its Leadership, ignores UNCLOS and all its neighbour's efforts at working cooperatively, it should recall that the UN may remove its support of this government, just as easily as Libya has taken to act against the Universal Principals that the UN is based upon.

Turkey has as an aim, supremacy of the seas that surround this country, despite one hundred years of peace, since the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. If Turkey is isolated, drilling alone, and without any of the major oil explorer's support, it is because of her hostility to the notion of equality. Cyprus is a stunning example of this belligerence, divided as it is between its "Turks", and those not "Turkish"; as though Cyprus does not exist, and that Cypriots do not exist either.

What is clear is the amazing progress the East Med. Gas Forum has made since its advent just a few years ago. Hard to imagine, Israel sitting with Palestinians, Egypt, Cyprus, and Greece, among others, with such success. In a region torn by bitter animosity this is notable, and it demonstrates that they are not as divided as it seems; this is Hopeful. Hegemony as a notion prospers, while for Turkey it is the biggest threat to her plans. Cyprus may be a focus of these intentions, but not the real issue when one looks at the bigger picture of things; all those not "Turkish" therefore, are similarly threatened.

...if we are not headed for War, it is a good moment for more Tripartite meetings; but it is up to Turkey to decide this one, what with the situation the way it is. No one else would be against such an effort.

http://admin.petroleum-economist.com/ar ... led-waters
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Re: extracting resources

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:07 am

Cyprus, where the USA and Russia may find common ground to demonstrate their commitment to Universal Principals, and for this island's Freedom.

...let's not forget that only three years ago there was no East Med. Gas Forum. Who would imagine that one would ever find Egypt, Israel, Greece, Jordan, Italy, Cyprus, and the Palestinians sitting as equals at the same table: this is Hope, and this is what Turkey ignores in defiance of UNCLOS mostly through the threat of force militarily.

...what is the Problem? How is it that the Cyprus Problem has become so complex, beyond the displaced, and beyond the illegal occupation, spanning the sea to Libya, and to the Aegean: never mind Turkey's "safe zone" in Syria, (and in Iraq) another occupation, as in Cyprus on a neighbour's soil.

...let us recall the Treaty of Lausanne, because it is this that Erdogan has tossed out the window, like the Treaty of Sevres, for which he disrupts the region's balance of power with such hostility; for a "new" Turkey, for "Turkishness", and supremacy.

It is a fine line between preparing for war, and placing oneself in an excellent position for negotiations. His delay in Greece is well timed in that regard. There are 2-3 years left for him till his next election campaign, and, to the centennial celebrations of the Turkey founded by these Treaties, then.

Such as it is, the solidarity that the EU should be displaying, is the same solidarity the world should be displaying, and what Russia, one Hopes will display accordingly: values which "we" all support, because I fear Mr. Erdogan may go too far in his own ambitions if left to do so.

https://wacotrib.com/news/world/cyprus- ... 91cb4.html
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Re: extracting resources

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:04 am

https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/09/15/cabi ... m-charter/

Good news; very hopeful that in such a short time this success: a Charter.

...Turkey may regret the empty chair that is hers at these meetings; one imagines as an equal, with a small change in intentions, she may fill that place.

While Turkey goes it alone, she pays dearly. Safety, and rational choice come from such collectivity.
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Re: extracting resources

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:30 pm

All seven Turkish gas wells drilled in East Med to date uneconomic: minister


Istanbul — All seven of the gas wells drilled to date by Turkey in the East Mediterranean have proven to be uneconomic, Turkey's energy minister Fatih Donmez said Sept. 23 in a TV interview.

Despite the absence of commercial reserves, Donmez said that all the wells drilled to date had provided important information on the geology of the area and that drilling of an eighth well by the drillship Yavuz was continuing.
He said upstream operator TPAO was operating according to a "long-term drilling program" in both the East Mediterranean and the Black Sea and that further wells would be drilled.

The Yavuz is currently located in Cyprus' block 6, southwest of the island, while Turkey's second drillship Yavuz continues to drill in the Black Sea where it made a 320 Bcm discovery last month at the Sakarya field.

There has been international condemnation of Turkey's exploration offshore Cyprus, with the EU considering the possibility of imposing new sanctions against Ankara because of its drilling program there.

Turkey does not release details of drilling operations, but the Fatih is believed to have drilled at least two wells in marine areas claimed both by Cyprus and the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus -- recognized only by Ankara.

The Yavuz is believed to have previously drilled in Cyprus' Block 7 and Block 9.

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Re: extracting resources

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:04 pm

Wednesday, October 28, 2020
Lebanon targets gas and aid
http://admin.petroleum-economist.com/ar ... as-and-aid


...welcome news, a long time in the making.

It may seem a ridiculous dream, what with oil and gas being the center of so many wars, but in this case, where regional hegemony may demonstrate its power over Turkey and its desire to be in this sea its supreme controlling interest, I am hopeful.

The years of Turkish meddling in Lebanese affairs, relating to this issue, it seems, are wasted. Lebanon, like the rest of the world, (Muslim or not), respect the Universal Principals and the Rule of Law that define us, as Human beings. UNCLOS, and the Treaties of Lausanne and Sevres cannot be ignored, nor solutions that are not military. The Problem, in affect, the very root of this and so many other problems festers because of Erdogan's bigger aims. "Turkishness", as it is defined by him, puts all of us, not "Turkish", (in his "sweet isolation"), against him.

...Lebanon has made their choice, one that is unwavering; unlike those Libyans, in power, whose existence is secured by the UN, and who ignore the very principles on which their claims (over an EEZ) are based having Turkey's support.

Lebanon, like all its' neighbours, but one, remain committed to the notion that beyond a Nation there is a wider Family of Man; that real enemies exist and they are not each other.

...one hopes there will be more to cheer, at Turkey's Centennial in two (three) years; that with a small change in intentions, to change the world, Erdogan may find the Statesmanship he is lacking: the difference between a Nationalist and a Patriot.
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