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Re: extracting resources

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:19 am

Ankara eyeing control of Mediterranean, through Libya - Jerusalem Post

https://ahvalnews.com/turkey-libya/anka ... salem-post

“Turkey’s model in the Mediterranean is to exploit either weak states like Libya or unrecognized states like Northern Cyprus, to move forward,’’ the Jerusalem Post said.
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Re: extracting resources

Postby Maximus » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:07 pm

Cyprus to take turkey to international criminal court.

over violation of its exclusive economic zone.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/12/05/cypr ... re-rights/

Turkey thinks she can lie and convince the fanatics and brain dead that what she is doing is within her legal rights. But she probably wont show up or resolve to settle the matter in a court of law like a civilized nation.

Turkey was trying to avoid receiving the summons and letter of intention from the RoC. They wouldn't accept it. :roll:

Which says a lot about that country's character really....
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Re: extracting resources

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Re: extracting resources

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:49 am

Greece needs to be congratulated for expelling the criminal Libyan Diplomats from Greece for signing an illegal MOU with the criminal Turks.

Also for threatening to fire and possibly sinking any ship that commences drilling operations in the Greek EEZ.

The threat of war is now real and this is the only language Turkey understands.

I think its now time to heavily militarize all the Greek islands and bolster defences everywhere and also send re-inforcement troops to the Thrace Border with Turkey.

After so much austerity I think Greece needs to find the resources and sign a deal to buy the Turkish F-35s from the USA and also buy 3 to 4 Wedgetail AWACS aircraft.

Yes these investments are expensive, but its a matter of survival now. There is no escape from it as Greece must make a stand and I for one congratulate the Greek PM for making the necessary tough decisions so far.

Also, Greece needs to further develop its alliance with Egypt and Israel. And to further develop relations with Italy, and France as well who are taking a big interest and appear to be on Greece's side.

Also, urgent meetings are called for with the USA (Trump) who called the Turkish moves as a clear provocation so they too appear to be on Greece's side so Greece needs to find out how far USA is willing to go and see if there are any avenues to develop security bilateral relations between the 2 countries further. We must remember that the USA has interests here, so who knows what the Americans could be willing to do.

As for Cyprus, well you guys need to place the CNG on very high readiness. If Greece holds true on its threats, then the prospect of escalation on the island is also very real. Be prepared for the worst and assume the worst at all times.

Never give these criminal Turks an inch. We need to stick to our guns, quite literally. The Turks are trying to steal our island and our resources.

We will now know who are friends are as well.
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Re: extracting resources

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:14 am

Greece has also walked into the Libyan Civil War (which also includes ISIL as a belligerent) between the Libyan Government and rival factions (ISIL being one of them).

Whilst the situation in Libya is complex, the anti Government rebels who also oppose ISIL btw, appear to be going from one victory to the next. The Libyan Government is under siege. Turkey has sided with the Government but it is unclear what their involvement is with ISIL at this stage.

Greece by default now must consider its options and the possibility of throwing its support with the rebels. But also steer very clear of ISIL.

Damn it is very challenging but Greece needs to look at these matters now with its Italian and french allies who also appear to want to weigh in. The USA has thus far not shown any active interest in this civil war at all, and probably will not unless ISIL obtain some upper hand, in which case the Americans will probably enter the conflict in Libya as well to expel ISIL. that appears to be the only given as far as the Americans are concerned. they don't particularly care one way or the other unless ISIL gain the upper hand.

If the rebels win in Libya, then its possible that Greece has a friendly Government and ally in Libya. Egypt has also sided with the rebels and Egypt is an important ally to Greece so decisions need to be made.

I am sorry the Greek Government has to make such decisions but the world is one ugly place right now and we might not have a choice.

But Greece needs to get involved and project its military power (which is considerable) and protect its interests.

Good luck to the Greek Government. Greece has more friends than Turkey does, and it may be time to flex some military muscle.

Also, I think its imperative to bolster Greek Military capabilities. If Greece procures the F-35 and the USA embargoes Turkey from this technology, then the Greek Military will enjoy the air superiority these F-35s provide against the TAF.

Entering into negotiations with the criminal Turks also established a fate accompli for Turkey and these are negotiations which will yield little fruit for Greece, if anything at all. It's time to start negotiating with gunboats and warplanes. The only kind of diplomacy Turkey knows.

We have seen all over the world these days that might = right. As such, Greece needs to build its military capability and be ready for the worst outcomes.
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Re: extracting resources

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:28 am

The Turkish Navy deported an Israeli research ship near Cyprus two weeks ago, the National Infrastructure, Energy and Water Ministry confirmed on Saturday.
Bat Galim, a vessel belonging to the Israel Oceanographic and Limnological Research, had researchers from Ben-Gurion University in the Negev aboard, as well as a Cypriot geologist, who were doing research approved by the Government of Cyprus in Cyprus’ territorial waters.

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Turki ... rus-610923

...more news,

https://www.timesofisrael.com/turkish-s ... ot-waters/
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Re: extracting resources

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:42 am

Israel Air Force aircraft circled over a Turkish ship used for drilling for gas near the territorial waters of Cyprus on Sunday, according to Mako news.

https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/IAF ... rus-611008
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Re: extracting resources

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:08 pm

...in plain English,

https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighoope ... ff483c5fc1

An Aggressive Turkey Is Raising Risks Of Conflict In The Mediterranean Sea
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Re: extracting resources

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Re: extracting resources

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:47 pm

..wow, this guy has something to say,

http://www.ekathimerini.com/247798/opin ... s-behavior

...it may be about Turkey's motives, but more about Greece, and her allies, what they should do
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