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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby miltiades » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:29 am

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Britain can still trade under the current rules with the EU for up to 10 years.
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Where on earth do you get this from !!!
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:15 am

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cyprusgrump wrote:EU TARIFF WAR WITH INDONESIA GIVES BREXIT BRITAIN OPPORTUNITY TO CREAM OFF TRADE

Oh dear, all not well with EU trade...?

The EU’s trade relations with South-East Asian powerhouse Indonesia have come under renewed strain with Indonesia preparing to slap a 20-25% tariff on dairy products from the EU in response to the EU whacking 8-18% tariffs on Indonesian biodiesel. How dair-EU!

Indonesia’s population of 260 million is over half the size of the entire EU, it’s currently the 16th largest economy in the world and growing at a pacey 5% a year. Indonesia’s trade minister is so cheesed off he’s ordered dairy importers to find new suppliers outside the EU. Indonesia is the fifth largest non-EU importer of dairy products in the world so this is no trifling matter.

After Liz Truss’s big cheese push at DEFRA, it just so happens that the UK will in a matter of weeks be the third largest non-EU exporter of dairy products in the world, and is about to regain control of its own tariff schedules, putting it in pole position to cream off the the EU’s market share. Brits get cheap biodiesel and textiles, while Indonesians will get top-quality Cheddar, Stilton, Yarg, Brie, Wensleydale and clotted cream. Perfect!


There was a German MEP who stood up today and admitted that the EU will be in worse off under a NO DEAL BREXIT. She said, German manufacturing could face a crisis, and slip into recession and she blamed the EU for the current situation with Britain.

She said that Germany and Britain have always had good relations and that the EU have damaged this relationship but that in the end their relationship has such a solid based that both countries will overcome the issues and repair their bilateral engagement.

She then turned to the other EU criminals and asked them what was so bad with the conditions asked by David Cameron. All Britain asked for is that EU migrants to the UK not be allowed to access the NHS and British Social Security immediately which is completely fair enough. EU recalcitrance bought upon this train wreck and now it's time to pay! :D


On one of the 2 documentaries I have seen on TV recently on the subject (Portillo. The trouble with the Tories), Cameron was asking the EU for 13 years of denying the new EU citizen immigrants of any U.K. benefits with the option to extend. The EU gave Cameron 7 years without any extension, so I don’t know what this German MEP is talking about the EU denying Cameron what he asked for.

These are two different episodes despite the same introductions in the beginning...a must watch of both episodes!

Episode 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AgpAY1ZpXY

Episode 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJoKZORogdI
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:53 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:EU TARIFF WAR WITH INDONESIA GIVES BREXIT BRITAIN OPPORTUNITY TO CREAM OFF TRADE

Oh dear, all not well with EU trade...?

The EU’s trade relations with South-East Asian powerhouse Indonesia have come under renewed strain with Indonesia preparing to slap a 20-25% tariff on dairy products from the EU in response to the EU whacking 8-18% tariffs on Indonesian biodiesel. How dair-EU!

Indonesia’s population of 260 million is over half the size of the entire EU, it’s currently the 16th largest economy in the world and growing at a pacey 5% a year. Indonesia’s trade minister is so cheesed off he’s ordered dairy importers to find new suppliers outside the EU. Indonesia is the fifth largest non-EU importer of dairy products in the world so this is no trifling matter.

After Liz Truss’s big cheese push at DEFRA, it just so happens that the UK will in a matter of weeks be the third largest non-EU exporter of dairy products in the world, and is about to regain control of its own tariff schedules, putting it in pole position to cream off the the EU’s market share. Brits get cheap biodiesel and textiles, while Indonesians will get top-quality Cheddar, Stilton, Yarg, Brie, Wensleydale and clotted cream. Perfect!


There was a German MEP who stood up today and admitted that the EU will be in worse off under a NO DEAL BREXIT. She said, German manufacturing could face a crisis, and slip into recession and she blamed the EU for the current situation with Britain.

She said that Germany and Britain have always had good relations and that the EU have damaged this relationship but that in the end their relationship has such a solid based that both countries will overcome the issues and repair their bilateral engagement.

She then turned to the other EU criminals and asked them what was so bad with the conditions asked by David Cameron. All Britain asked for is that EU migrants to the UK not be allowed to access the NHS and British Social Security immediately which is completely fair enough. EU recalcitrance bought upon this train wreck and now it's time to pay! :D


On one of the 2 documentaries I have seen on TV recently on the subject (Portillo. The trouble with the Tories), Cameron was asking the EU for 13 years of denying the new EU citizen immigrants of any U.K. benefits with the option to extend. The EU gave Cameron 7 years without any extension, so I don’t know what this German MEP is talking about the EU denying Cameron what he asked for.

These are two different episodes despite the same introductions in the beginning...a must watch of both episodes!

Episode 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AgpAY1ZpXY

Episode 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJoKZORogdI



Cameron acknowledged the growing discontent with the EU (demonstrated if nowhere else in the growth of UKIP) and pledged to negotiate major reforms in the EU.

If he'd actually done what he claimed Remain may well of won the Referendum, but history tells a different story...
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby miltiades » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:10 am

Plonker you may pleased to know that on the strength of the prospect that the Clown could be removed and replaced with a national unity interim government committed to stopping Brexit with no deal has increased the value of the pound in your pocket. Imagine how much Sterling would rise if Brexit is stopped alltogether, you would be pounds better off. Worth considering don't you think ?
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Londonrake » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:26 am

miltiades wrote:Plonker you may pleased to know that on the strength of the prospect that the Clown could be removed and replaced with a national unity interim government committed to stopping Brexit with no deal has increased the value of the pound in your pocket. Imagine how much Sterling would rise if Brexit is stopped alltogether, you would be pounds better off. Worth considering don't you think ?


Actually, the pound went up on the back of much stronger retail data than was expected by the markets. :wink:
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:16 am

Londonrake wrote:
miltiades wrote:Plonker you may pleased to know that on the strength of the prospect that the Clown could be removed and replaced with a national unity interim government committed to stopping Brexit with no deal has increased the value of the pound in your pocket. Imagine how much Sterling would rise if Brexit is stopped alltogether, you would be pounds better off. Worth considering don't you think ?


Actually, the pound went up on the back of much stronger retail data than was expected by the markets. :wink:


So much for relying on the predictions of the Market speculators then? This time they made the move after the event ...... which of course any idiot could do :roll:
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby miltiades » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:52 am

If you understood how the markets operate you would know that " retail sales" are a tiny part of currency movements. The big factor here is one and only one. Brexit. Or should I say the impeding, perhaps, suicide.
The vast majority of those who voted " Leave" did so not for economic reasons but based on their prejudices against foreigners, yet they appear to accept millions of impoverished third world immigrants since they feel ....superior ti those. Fact of the matter is that the vast majority are not " thinkers" easily led by manipulators such as the Clown and Fuckrage rhe Arsehole.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:12 am

who ever claimed that brexit will be in anyway financially better for the eu. the only facts you can go on is that fact that even if we do start trading with the eu under wto rules which we will not be able to from 1st of nov for at least a few years:
1. it will affect eu market 18%
2. it will affect uk market 56%

when it comes to what cameron asked:
1. wanted eu citizens to pay into the uk their insurance and taxes for 15 years and not be able to claim anything
2. uk to remove themseves from the eu human rights act
3.uk to remove working directive which stopped doctors working 90 hours a week
4. the crunch - uk wanted to remove new eu financial laws from applying to the city of london.

sinister aspect of all this was in reality they wanted to achieve three things.
1. stop the progress of ukip as if they gained any more support it was tory voters and would render tory party into oppsotion for many years to come. to stop this they went for blocking eu citizens rights and of course thus played well with dumboes who felt attracted to ukip.
2. it was to stop the new financial regulations from apllying to the city. now this was dressed looking after british interests.
3.they wanted to remove eu human rights from the uk.

both 2 and 3 were looking after interests of the corporations ( his own class).

there were three dosumentaries starting from 2010 following what was going on and explenations given by those who were there attending meetings in the eu and havng meetings with cameron and other tory cronies about the matter. there is nothing left out as to what really happened.

1. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x71isj8

2. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7298pj

3. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x71uzph

if you really want to understand what happened and how the british public got hoodwinked into brexit watch all three.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:09 pm

this is very simple. corbyn said vote to remove bojo and then vote for me and i will extend artcile 50 to hold a general election, and if i win i will negotiate a new deal which will protect jobs and industry and then put that deal to a vote with a choice of remaining if you do not agree with the deal.

clearly there is no apetite in the country or parliament for a no-deal brexit and if people want brexit that can still vote in the next vote for it. and to comfort no-dealers i would say put three choices to the people and ask them to select a first and then a second preference on the vote. so if your first preference comes third, your second preference can be added to one of the preferences that came firat or second. that way brexiteer can complain that labour is trying to divide the brexit vote.

now when it comes to liberals, how democratic is it that they want to decide wholabour can propose as a leader. the choice is very simple either corbyn as leader or no-deal brexot. for liberals to choose no-deal brexit instead of corbyn shows just how mindless they are. what difference does it make who takes control for a week or so to delay article 50 and call for an elecyion. it does make a difference though democratically for a liberal to overturn labour party members choice of who the leader should be.

but i suspect corbyn will surprise us all by allowing harman or even clark to do this task. i personally would not and take them to the wire and watch them squirm and cave in. with the knowledge that the no deal brexit will be so bad, the uk will return to eu within a month to beg for forgiveness and the eu may even allow us to get back in with the same terms as we left. no real damage done. even if not on the old terms, at least without our rebate.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Londonrake » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:38 pm

miltiades wrote:If you understood how the markets operate you would know that " retail sales" are a tiny part of currency movements. The big factor here is one and only one. Brexit. Or should I say the impeding, perhaps, suicide.
The vast majority of those who voted " Leave" did so not for economic reasons but based on their prejudices against foreigners, yet they appear to accept millions of impoverished third world immigrants since they feel ....superior ti those. Fact of the matter is that the vast majority are not " thinkers" easily led by manipulators such as the Clown and Fuckrage rhe Arsehole.
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You’re getting very cynical in your old age Milti. :wink:

https://www.fxempire.com/forecasts/arti ... eat-587354

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