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[miltiades]

Now who is delusional ?
Explain why Sterling lost almost 15% the day after the referendum.
How do you know the markets like BOJO ?
Stop talking rubbish for once.

[Paphitis]

Now who is delusional ?
Explain why Sterling lost almost 15% the day after the referendum.
How do you know the markets like BOJO ?
Stop talking rubbish for once.

Who cares about 15% BTW, the AUD has fallen by about 30% in the last 3 years and this to us is a cyclic event. When the price of oil, gas, coal, iron ore, Uranium, gold and silver and other resources go down then so does our Dollar. When the prices go up, so does our dollar. It bears no correlation at all with the performance of our economy since we have been regarded for a long time to be the best performing economy in the world, only now being beaten by you know who (USA). In 3 to 5 years from now, we will probably achieve parity with the USD again. So cyclic fluctuations of 30% is just a normal economic cycle. It literally means nothing much at all.

My vision is a lot more long term than yours and the Sterling will rebound because all you spout is a campaign of defeatist fear and panic so don't talk to me about the markets.

I am looking 2, 5 and 10 years into the future when every British person will be celebrating and glad to be free from EU totalitarianism and skullduggery and be in total control of every aspect of its sovereignty.

BTW, under WTO terms (check it for yourself), Britain and the EU will be allowed to trade under the current terms for up to 10 years immediately after BREXIT and the EU and Britain can just keep extending it until a FTD can be penned.

So every fear campaign you spout is just hysteria and lies.

https://lawyersforbritain.org/leaving-t ... orld-trade

[miltiades]

A group of little Englande lawyers who as they say " we have come together to support the BTITISH people " Are the Irish and Scots not Brotish you fucking idiots.
You quote from an extreme Brexiteers site.
Now Plonker get lost and do not spew more shit.

[cyprusgrump]

Pretty soon Remoaners will realise that the only chance they have of stopping Brexit is crowdfunding the invention of time travel and heading back to 2016 with a bunch of ballot boxes full of Remain votes...

[Paphitis]

A group of little Englande lawyers who as they say " we have come together to support the BTITISH people " Are the Irish and Scots not Brotish you fucking idiots.
You quote from an extreme Brexiteers site.
Now Plonker get lost and do not spew more shit.

I think I will take the word of a group of highly educated and schooled successful people like lawyers and the information from the WTO than a senile and hysterical dim-witted petsoyero with his equally stupid and dim-witted fuckwittery, defeatism, negativity, and ideologically driven utter nonsense. I respect the will of the British people in their hour and will happily give everything for what I believe to be righteous. I do not have enemies and love all my brothers equally and also ask Britain to respect the sovereignty and eventual unification of Cyprus by redeeming any past indiscretions.

I am a positive half glass is full kind of guy. You are a glass is half empty kind of guy.

[miltiades]

As I said a few times the fact that you support the little Englanders, who by the way they are not the British people alone, makes me happy on the knowledge that you NEVER got anything right coupled with the fact that you are also stupid.

[Paphitis]

As I said a few times the fact that you support the little Englanders, who by the way they are not the British people alone, makes me happy on the knowledge that you NEVER got anything right coupled with the fact that you are also stupid.

Why do you exclude the Welsh who voted so overwhelmingly to leave. They must by little Welshmen too hey?

Oh great one who predicted BREXIT won’t win and BOJO won’t be PM. How is the no confidence site going? Shall we call our supporters in the Labor Party to find out?

[miltiades]

Nothing gets up my nose more than when people say "The British people " are the 16 plus million who voted stay not British ? The Scots and the Irish ?
Only 34% of voters on the electoral register voted leave, they are not the only British people you daft kangaroo

[Paphitis]

Nothing gets up my nose more than when people say "The British people " are the 16 plus million who voted stay not British ? The Scots and the Irish ?
Only 34% of voters on the electoral register voted leave, they are not the only British people you daft kangaroo

There was a referendum Miltiades.

The question was clearcut! The people were promised and the establishment left no ambiguity. Everyone knew leave meant leave under WTO terms. More people voted to leave and there are more people who will vote leave today. BOJO is popular because he spouts positivity and action. He upholds democracy.

I have been in the markets all my life Milti. I have a Defence Super fund, albeit managed by professional traders on performance based wickets. They make me money, they get paid. They lose me money and they get my middle finger. A bit like a public servant pension in Cyprus in that I have a bit of a special deal much like politicians do. From the age of 21 I have been full on immersed in the international share markets with my pension money riding on the mouth of a horse in the US, Hong Kong, China, Japan, UK, France and Germany. I am 100% high risk as it all rides on the stock markets around the globe and on top of that I am also exposed to currency fluctuations. The down turn of the Sterling does kind of affect my balance right now. But I have seen stock market collapses and massive corrections. I have lost 15% in one year and made 15 the next. Am I worried? No I am not because since the age of 21 I have profited and benefitted from the volatility and the ups and downs,

Only Australia, Japan, Norway, China, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have such vast monetary reserves. Every time corporations around the world like Google and Apple announce their profits and dividends our reserves inherit Billions in foreign capital. This is what the vision of Australia's former PM Paul Keating did for us. The trend has always been upwards in the long run. It will inevitably be the same for the Sterling.

You are in for amazing ride. Now is the time to buy British Stocks real cheap!

So buy up my man!

But this isn’t about pensions and money or short term losses. This is about Britain’s desire to cut itself from its shackles. Celebrate it!

[Kikapu]

There was a German MEP who stood up today and admitted that the EU will be in worse off under a NO DEAL BREXIT. She said, German manufacturing could face a crisis, and slip into recession and she blamed the EU for the current situation with Britain.

She said that Germany and Britain have always had good relations and that the EU have damaged this relationship but that in the end their relationship has such a solid based that both countries will overcome the issues and repair their bilateral engagement.

She then turned to the other EU criminals and asked them what was so bad with the conditions asked by David Cameron. All Britain asked for is that EU migrants to the UK not be allowed to access the NHS and British Social Security immediately which is completely fair enough. EU recalcitrance bought upon this train wreck and now it's time to pay!

On one of the 2 documentaries I have seen on TV recently on the subject (Portillo. The trouble with the Tories), Cameron was asking the EU for 13 years of denying the new EU citizen immigrants of any U.K. benefits with the option to extend. The EU gave Cameron 7 years without any extension, so I don’t know what this German MEP is talking about the EU denying Cameron what he asked for.

These are two different episodes despite the same introductions in the beginning...a must watch of both episodes!

Episode 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AgpAY1ZpXY

Episode 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJoKZORogdI

Maybe that is what she was referring to.

She mentioned that Cameron's requests were not unreasonable and that the EUs positions in commandeering the British NHS and Social Security System to the rest of the EU was bad.

Either way, what Cameron requested was spot on. Britain couldn't afford to be the the EUs NHS provider and pay for every tom dick and harry who chose to take advantage of Britain's Socialist infrastructure. The reason why Britain can afford to have such great things for its citizens is because it could restrict access to other EU citizens. Otherwise even the Brits will eventually lose the NHS and other benefits.

This German MEP sounded quite reasonable and intelligent to me. She spoke the truth. Britain hasn't done anything wrong and just wants out of the EU.

Paphitis, you do understand that benefits given in the UK to people are not free to anyone as it all comes out from taxes people pay through different sources, from direct income tax to sales tax (VAT) to poll tax if they still have it. I have been out of the UK for 40 years therefore I am neither eligible to such benefits nor do I receive them or want them. Surely you cannot expect EU immigrants coming to the UK to work and pay taxes and not receive anything in return from the NHS, education and housing should they fall on bad times. Either make the NHS & education private so that everyone has private medical coverage like in Switzerland and the USA or if it's a government run system with tax payer's system, then everyone is entitled to it as long as they are legal to be in the UK. How can a country have a two tier system, treating new immigrants as second class citizens by denying them any benefits all a while taking their tax moneys? What if you have sick people who are denied medical services and they are working next to you or be around your family members at shopping malls with communicable diseases? I am surprised the EU even agreed to give Cameron 7 years allowance to deny new immigrants from the EU of these public services, just to keep cry baby UK happy. The more UK took from the EU rules the more they wanted, which is why the EU in many ways is happy to let the UK go it's merry way without a no deal should it happen, as there is still a question mark whether it will happen or not. Just few thing to think about when denying legal immigrants benefits that they have earned through their taxes, just like any other UK citizens.