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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:07 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
In legal terms, you are reaching a conclusion by stating that the MPs had full knowledge of the default position . You or anyone else are in no position to know what each MP knew or did not know!



Ah, so they didn't know what they were voting for...? Now where have I heard that before? :lol:

You are still trying to reach for a conclusion! :D


We know the conclusion... :wink:

you actually know something that has not been concluded yet. i see you are on the same level as tory party. very good. well be prepared to re-write your narative in a few weeks. we have a much more interesting conclusion being prepared. now thats what you call a thriller. hichcock has nothing or corbyn.

enjoy

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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Paphitis » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:00 pm

The clock is ticking folks.

Only 70 days left before the 5th largest economy in the world divorces the EU. :D
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:10 pm

finally boris has seen the light. we cannot brexit without letting northern ireland remaining in the eu. his solution, he proposed to ireland to also leave the eu so they can have their own trading rules. can you beleive this kant. i mean i am lost for words.

https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-wants-ireland-form-new-union-uk-after-brexit-2019-8?r=US&IR=T&fbclid=IwAR3vwcKtqnBt9mV61UznTz3o947ruulZTeiO_Y10hbJ96jEketcH5eChBT8

Boris Johnson wants Ireland to leave EU trade rules and form a new union with the UK instead after Brexit. this is his solution to the backstop.
even a two yearold could not propose such a stupid idea. i wonder if grumpy agrees with this suggestion
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:23 pm

Lordo wrote:finally boris has seen the light. we cannot brexit without letting northern ireland remaining in the eu. his solution, he proposed to ireland to also leave the eu so they can have their own trading rules. can you beleive this kant. i mean i am lost for words.

https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-wants-ireland-form-new-union-uk-after-brexit-2019-8?r=US&IR=T&fbclid=IwAR3vwcKtqnBt9mV61UznTz3o947ruulZTeiO_Y10hbJ96jEketcH5eChBT8

Boris Johnson wants Ireland to leave EU trade rules and form a new union with the UK instead after Brexit. this is his solution to the backstop.
even a two yearold could not propose such a stupid idea. i wonder if grumpy agrees with this suggestion

Please, I beg you all not to give too much credit to these dumbasses. They may be educated, they may have graduated from Eton, Oxbridge but that doesnt mean jackshit. They have no idea of the real world. They are in their own isolated fucking bubbles and have no interest in serving us, the general public. They are stupid on a level you wouldn't believe.

I had politician customers when I had a shop in Islington. When a satellite channel changed frequency and they couldn't get their Filmnet to watch porn on I would spend hours on the phone explaining how to change frequency and polarity of the channel. What took 3 minutes with a working class run of the mill kind of chap would take hours with these educated fools. Cunts, the lot of them :lol:
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:51 pm

i mean can you believe the depth of feeling for democracy this man has wanting to implement no-deal nexit on the uk without mandate but also will be asking the eu to remove southern ireland from the eu till he can sort out the backstop. no need to ask the irish what they want, they can just do what we ask them.

perhaps he can aslo explain to us if he is so confident that he wil resolve the backstop why he can't accept it and remove it as soon as he has solved it. is that too much to ask, but no he wants to be able to remove it at will whether he has solved the backstop or not. i mean thats the kind of logic you get from inbred etonian kant. and there has been a few of those in government.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:58 pm

Lordo wrote:i mean can you believe the depth of feeling for democracy this man has wanting to implement no-deal nexit on the uk without mandate but also will be asking the eu to remove southern ireland from the eu till he can sort out the backstop. no need to ask the irish what they want, they can just do what we ask them.

perhaps he can aslo explain to us if he is so confident that he wil resolve the backstop why he can't accept it and remove it as soon as he has solved it. is that too much to ask, but no he wants to be able to remove it at will whether he has solved the backstop or not. i mean thats the kind of logic you get from inbred etonian kant. and there has been a few of those in government.

I'd love James O'Brien to interview this idiot on LBC. JO would make mincemeat out of him :lol:
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:49 pm

seing boris in germany reminded me of mungo.

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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Kikapu » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:11 am

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Kikapu wrote:Well, if you insist that you know what was in the minds of the MPs, then your conclusion is dismissed and this concludes that.


I'm not insisting that at all... :roll:

I'm just saying that MPs voted for Article 50 and we must assume that they knew what they were voting for. Or do you think they just randomly walk through a Ayes or Noes lobby at the end of every debate...? :?


Yes, the MPs voted to enact article 50 to trigger the UK’s removal from the EU. But article 50 merely states for the sides to negotiate an withdrawal agreement and not much else, and the EU and the UK had negotiated the withdrawal agreement in the 2 year period, therefore, as far the EU is concerned, they have lived up to article 50‘s instructions. Now, the fact that the British parliament has voted down the agreed withdrawal agreement, that is non of the EU‘s business. It is up to the UK to ratify that agreement, and if they don‘t, then I don‘t know how the UK can legally leave the EU without a deal in the form of a no deal Brexit. I believe if a no deal Brexit is attempted by the UK, which the majority MPs are against it and the courts are on their side, the British high court would stop no deal Brexit when it is challenged, regardless if it means to overturn the 2016 referendum. Democracy is not absolute and anything voted by the majority would still needs to meet legal challenges. Brexit is far from being a done deal and BJ‘s visit to Europe this week has made him admit that the onus is on the UK to “fix” the withdrawal agreement May signed with the EU and not the other way around. Looks like BJ got “pussy whipped” by Merkel as he was treated like a school boy told to go back and to finish his homework, the withdrawal agreement.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:42 am

this is the most underhand democratic way of running the country. hter eis not a law that has been passed in the uk where it specifies eactly where it applies and where it does not apply. when article 50 was triggered it should have said if no deal is agreed we will get out on no deal. infact it should have said that on the referendum too. then we would be able to find what wto means never mind how it applies. this is the worst democratic process ever.

but having said all that what happened to when you decide to remove backstop let me know otherwise we are not talking. he has to get it into his thick head that northern ireland has to reain regulatory wise close to eu otherwise a hard border is going to be implemented and we will not be able to even trade if we produce inferior products. no amount of checking will remedy that one.

we really are being led by a bunch of assholes who do not know their arses from their elbows.
the time is near, because even the erg assholes will not support the government.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:01 pm

what brexiteers calimed about migrants is one thing reality is different.

this is reality.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49426924
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