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was churchill a hero or a villain?

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Re: now here is question

Postby Lordo » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:29 pm

now lets have a look at the mess the arabs are in. who created the kingdoms we see today and their total disregard for human rights especially women human rights but not restricted to that shiites rights are also excluded.

Churchill urged removing most British troops from Iraq and installing an Arab government. In March he met British officials responsible for governing Iraq in Cairo. They agreed to install Faisal as King of Iraq and his brother, Abdullah, as King of Transjordan. From there he travelled to Mandatory Palestine, where Arab Palestinians petitioned him not to allow further Jewish migration. A supporter of Zionism, he dismissed this. Churchill believed that he could encourage Jewish migration to Palestine while allaying Arab fears that they would become a dominated minority. Only following the 1921 Jaffa riots did he agree to temporary restrictions on Jewish migration to Palestine.

interesting that the swine had his hand in this problem too. and of course we are still suffering the consequences of his actions.
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Re: now here is question

Postby Lordo » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:46 pm

in 1942 140,000 british and the empire soldiers captured by 23,000 force from japan. so much for leadership.
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Re: now here is question

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:49 pm

I suspect there will be few more pathetic experiences in my life than watching amateur armchair historians looking back ~80 years and declaring that those in charge at the time were wrong... :roll:
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Re: now here is question

Postby Lordo » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:53 pm

but this is beyond belief. just like the brits blamed the irish for the irish famine before him for being lazy he blamed the indians for the indian famine.

Churchill said that the "starvation of anyway underfed Bengalis is less serious" than that of "sturdy Greeks" and that the famine was the Indians' own fault for "breeding like rabbits". Adam Jones, editor of the Journal of Genocide Research, calls Churchill "a genuine genocidaire", noting that the British leader called Indian Hindus a "foul race" in this period and said that the British air force chief should "send some of his surplus bombers to destroy them."
Churchill wrote to the Commander-in-Chief, India that he must, "rely as much as possible on the martial races" which, by long-standing colonial definition, excluded Hindus

what a hero hey, more like an asshole.
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Postby Lordo » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:58 pm

and there is more. i mean is this not trump is like. trump would do and say suvh things.

In response to an urgent request by the Secretary of State for India (Leo Amery) and the Viceroy of India (Wavell), to release food stocks for India, Churchill responded with a telegram to Wavell asking, if food was so scarce, "why Gandhi hadn't died yet". In July 1940, newly in office, he reportedly welcomed reports of the emerging conflict between the Muslim League and the Indian Congress, hoping "it would be bitter and bloody".

Writer Madhusree Mukerjee argued the famine was exacerbated by Churchill's and the War Cabinet's decisions, partly through exports of food, but also through indifference at a time when the United Kingdom's storing of food and raw materials "reached 18.5 million tons, the highest ever. Sugar and oilseeds overflowed warehouses and had to be stored outdoors, under tarpaulins."

In Drought and Famine in India, 1870–2016, a study of soil moisture by Indian and American researchers has confirmed that the Bengal famine, unlike other famines, was a result of British policies, not drought. The study also said another cause that exacerbated the death count of the 1943 famine was the Japanese capture of Burma which had previously been a source of food imports into India
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Re: now here is question

Postby Lordo » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:01 pm

who can forget

Between 13–15 February 1945, British and US bombers attacked the German city of Dresden, which was crowded with German wounded and refugees. There were unknown numbers of refugees in Dresden, so historians Matthias Neutzner, Götz Bergander and Frederick Taylor have used historical sources and deductive reasoning to estimate that the number of refugees in the city and surrounding suburbs was around 200,000 or less on the first night of the bombing
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Re: now here is question

Postby Paphitis » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:09 pm

Lordo wrote:in 1942 140,000 british and the empire soldiers captured by 23,000 force from japan. so much for leadership.


Really? And here I am thinking the Japs got done, like Turkey got done along with their Kraut friends.
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Re: now here is question

Postby Lordo » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:29 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:here is another little episode most are not aware about churchil
Churchill helped draft the Anglo-Irish Treaty. After the treaty. As Ireland descended into civil war between supporters and republican opponents of the treaty, churchill supplied weapons to the forces of Michael Collins' pro-treaty government. so stop wondersing how ireland was devided and who set the wheels into motion for the troubles we are still suffering today. wiht backstop removed ira is certain to re-start their struggle for unification

how the hell was one man allowed to casue so much havoc in the world.


You had Field Marshall Monash (Zionist) in WW1 who was in Gallipoli and Commander in Chief of all the Wrstern Front and Churchill in WW2.

Again I say, you’re welcome!

You can kiss my Aussie feet anytime you like now Lordo! :D

you go shag a kangoroo asshole.

the old boy may have been the commader in chief but he was sent there by old bustard as he was both secretary of state for war and secretary of state for air. how many fakin commanders do you know who made the decision to go to war asshole.

but you can lick kurupetros's ass as he likes that sort of actity and pays for such service normaly so he would appreciate one lick for free
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