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[Lordo]

Ah... How wonderfully democratic the EU is eh...?

BREXIT PARTY ALLOCATED JUST ONE MINUTE IN THREE HOUR EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT BREXIT ‘DEBATE’

From 9am -12pm next Wednesday the European Parliament will hold a big debate on the Brexit process. Curiously, the largest party in the Parliament has been allocated just one minute of the three hours of speaking time, despite making up 4% of all MEPs, and the debate being about the literal namesake of their party.

anyway any idea how much it will cost us to leave the eu and trade with wto rules per month yet?

you got it yet?

It will save Britain 250 million pounds per week.

Net Cost will be ZERO!

the figure is wrong it does not include the money the eu gives us back for deprived areas and industries and agriculture. we actually pay 750 million a month. but no matter.


what do you mean the net cost will be zero. are we going to trade under wto rules and pay no taxes. i agree the government will not pay anything, but what about us the public. the taxes under wto rules varies from 5% to 40% and more. how much tax will we the public pay for all our imports and how much tax will the eu citizens pay for our exports. will the tax on our exports not drive our businesses bust. forget about economics, just stick to cabbing me old cobber. and i doubt that you are any good at that. most contries do not have their own citizens doing cabbing as it is not that well paid.

[Paphitis]

Ah... How wonderfully democratic the EU is eh...?

BREXIT PARTY ALLOCATED JUST ONE MINUTE IN THREE HOUR EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT BREXIT ‘DEBATE’

From 9am -12pm next Wednesday the European Parliament will hold a big debate on the Brexit process. Curiously, the largest party in the Parliament has been allocated just one minute of the three hours of speaking time, despite making up 4% of all MEPs, and the debate being about the literal namesake of their party.

anyway any idea how much it will cost us to leave the eu and trade with wto rules per month yet?

you got it yet?

It will save Britain 250 million pounds per week.

Net Cost will be ZERO!

the figure is wrong it does not include the money the eu gives us back for deprived areas and industries and agriculture. we actually pay 750 million a month. but no matter.


what do you mean the net cost will be zero. are we going to trade under wto rules and pay no taxes. i agree the government will not pay anything, but what about us the public. the taxes under wto rules varies from 5% to 40% and more. how much tax will we the public pay for all our imports and how much tax will the eu citizens pay for our exports. will the tax on our exports not drive our businesses bust. forget about economics, just stick to cabbing me old cobber. and i doubt that you are any good at that. most contries do not have their own citizens doing cabbing as it is not that well paid.

Britain will in all likelihood trade under Article 24 of the WTO which is a zero tariff environment for a period of 24 months subject to bilateral approvals.

Australia is also currently trading with the EU under Article 24 - which means zero tariffs.


Again you seem to forget that Tariffs are not a one way street. If the EU place tariffs on Australian goods and services, Australia will double down with Tariffs on luxury German cars and price them out of the market. That hits Germany by Billions. The whole purpose and agenda is to reduce Tariffs not the other way round. Australia is a very big market for German cars these days. In fact there are even Ferrari and Lamborghini Dealerships in every Capital these days and Australia has apparently the highest disposable incomes of the OECD. Australians are the richest people per capita. So it’s a big market for luxury car manufacturers. The biggest on a per capita footing.

Therefore a FTD is a lucrative proposition for Germany and also Italy.

[Lordo]

agian your do not understand.

https://fullfact.org/europe/article-24/

this is your claim:
If we leave the EU on WTO terms, Article 24 of the World Trade Organisation would allow the UK and EU to maintain zero tariffs for up to 10 years while negotiating a new deal with the EU.

Conclusion
This is very unlikely in practice. This refers to Article 24 of the WTO’s General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade. It allows countries who are negotiating a free-trade area or customs union to have an interim agreement on trade tariffs for a period of (in most cases) up to ten years provided they have a “plan and schedule” agreed for concluding a final deal. It’s unlikely we could have such a “plan and schedule” in place with the EU before we leave.

1. if we leave without a divirce deal the eu is not about to start negotiating with us on a free trade agreement.
2.EU will not negotiate a free trade agreement that does ont allow freedom of movement,
3. the condition is having “plan and schedule” which we do not have as we are using the eu “plan and schedule”. getting that “plan and schedule” may well take 10 years. it took the russians 18 years. you have to have the agreement of all 164 wto members what ever you try to agree. you think having to have the agreement of 27 countries was restrictive try having to have the agreement of 164 countries. why th ehell do youthink the rest of the world have trading agreements outside the wto and only 3 countries in the world only use wto. were you born stupid or did is the school you went to responsible for your demise.

every which way you turn yoiu do not understand what you are looking for. when you are stupid it is better to keep your mouth shut and leave some doubt about your stupidity rather than speak and remove all doubt.

[cyprusgrump]

when you are stupid it is better to keep your mouth shut and leave some doubt about your stupidity rather than speak and remove all doubt.

A lesson you should learn and learn well...

[Lordo]

when you are stupid it is better to keep your mouth shut and leave some doubt about your stupidity rather than speak and remove all doubt.

A lesson you should learn and learn well...

i see you are still a bit shy about how much it will costs us per month to trade under wto rules. come on you can do it.

or are you scared of removing doubt?

you can do it.

[Lordo]

this one is for my brexiter friends who insist that leaving the eu wil lbe noproblem at all or perhaps we will have a few bumps but we will be ok. this is a real call to lbc by a businessman and his concerns. this call took place on the 12th of september at 15:03

<<A government adviser told this British businessman to replant his company in the European Union because they have “no information” about what to do after Brexit deadline.

The caller Edward told Shelagh he owns a company based in Bath that exports around 85% of its goods to the EU.
He detailed his concerns, such as increased tariffs and the end of freedom of movement which would cause complications for UK engineers travelling to European countries.

Shelagh asked the business owner what information he had been given by the government in order to mitigate the impending issues.

He said they’d sought advice from a number of places, including the Department of International Trade.
“The Department of International Trade, and this is really the thing that shocked me the most, when they came in they advised us to set up a business inside the EU,” he said, and revealed they have set up a business in Holland, like Panasonic and Sony have done.

“Who advised that?” Shelagh asked.

“An individual who came to see us from the Department of International Trade, from the local branch. They gave us some advice and said that in the circumstances, setting up an EU company for us would be of great benefit.
“Which is a shame because that means that they are willing to lose our tax revenue and our business to the EU.”

Shelagh clarified: “An adviser from our own government Department for International Trade came to see you and advised you to remove your business from the UK and replant it in the European Union while we leave the European Union?”

“Yes. And I’m the only SME owner who’s had advice that that would be a good option because they have no information at this point about what they can do after October 31st.” >>

[cyprusgrump]

Remain Media Quiet as Court Rules No Deal Brexit Does Not Breach Irish Peace Deal

Not just the media, all the normally gobby Remoaners too!

The High Court of Northern Ireland has ruled that a no-deal Brexit would not breach the Good Friday Agreement, which supports the peace process in the British province.
Northern Ireland, known colloquially as Ulster, was for decades wracked with violence perpetrated by terrorists claiming to be fighting on behalf of the minority of the population which supports leaving the United Kingdom and uniting with the Republic of Ireland, and to a lesser extent by loyalist paramilitaries.

This conflict, known as The Troubles, was significantly wound down by the Good Friday Agreement, or Belfast Agreement, signed in the 1990s, which resulted in the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) supposedly disarming in exchange for a number of concessions from the British government, such as freeing convicted terrorists.

Campaigners seeking to block a No Deal Brexit went to court claiming the possible introduction of a customs border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland would break the terms of the Belfast Agreement, but Lord Justice Bernard McCloskey has now ruled that this is not the case.

[Lordo]

Remain Media Quiet as Court Rules No Deal Brexit Does Not Breach Irish Peace Deal

Not just the media, all the normally gobby Remoaners too!

The High Court of Northern Ireland has ruled that a no-deal Brexit would not breach the Good Friday Agreement, which supports the peace process in the British province.
Northern Ireland, known colloquially as Ulster, was for decades wracked with violence perpetrated by terrorists claiming to be fighting on behalf of the minority of the population which supports leaving the United Kingdom and uniting with the Republic of Ireland, and to a lesser extent by loyalist paramilitaries.

This conflict, known as The Troubles, was significantly wound down by the Good Friday Agreement, or Belfast Agreement, signed in the 1990s, which resulted in the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) supposedly disarming in exchange for a number of concessions from the British government, such as freeing convicted terrorists.

Campaigners seeking to block a No Deal Brexit went to court claiming the possible introduction of a customs border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland would break the terms of the Belfast Agreement, but Lord Justice Bernard McCloskey has now ruled that this is not the case.

brexshitteer bullshit.
your judge does not understand the agreement that well. i suspect he is a protestant right? of course he is.
perhaps you can explain why manchild is about to agree to put a border between ni and the rest of uk. wach him do that when he returns on the 18th of october or even before

the lawyer who negotiated the tgfa says otherwise.

[Londonrake]

Having suffered 47 pages of what's amounted on the vast majority of occasions to - unanswered - blog entries perhaps this is a reasonable time to remind the "democrats" on this small forum of the fundamental issue the OP relates to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu6PIUT8M-A



Sorry to interrupt the incessant, virtually all one-sided, back-patting gloat fest.

See you some time next week, when I'm sure absolutely nothing will have changed in here, including the almost total absence of anything which could be remotely construed as a civilised "debate".

Yours. Brexshitter, coffin dodger (and other similar juvenile labels)

[cyprusgrump]

No doubt the Remoaners won't see this reported in the Remainiac MSM so I'll post it here for you...

ELECTORAL COMMISSION: REMAINERS BROKE ELECTORAL LAW

The Electoral Commission has found that two Remain campaigns that were set up less than a month before the referendum campaign worked together, breaking electoral law.

“We found that the ‘5 seconds campaign’ was a joint campaign run by WUAV and DDB UK Limited. Spending on the campaign was ‘joint’ or ‘common plan’ spending.”

Wake Up And Vote (WUAV) and DDB were just two of five campaigns that were all set up less than a month before the referendum, sharing big donors, and in total funnelling more than a million pounds into the Remain cause. The others seem to have avoided proper scrutiny…