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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby erolz66 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:48 am

cyprusgrump wrote:Oh I see...

So calling somebody 'undemocratic' for wishing to overturn the result of a referendum is equivalent to calling somebody a 'cunt' because they want the result of the aforementioned referendum to be implemented...?

I think I understand the Remoaner logic now... :wink:


Saying that everyone who voted remain will now only accept the over turning of the referendum result by any means fair or foul and nothing else is no different from saying all those who voted to leave did so because they are racist, little Englander's or the rest. I do not do the later, have never done the later, have in fact repeatedly refuted such claims. You do do the former constantly and then you use this as 'justification' for you not engaging with the points I make and instead just resorting to ad homeim attacks. The very term 'remoaner' is predicated on the premise that if you are in a minority of opinion, you should just shut up, be ignored and not heard from. Hardly a notion that is compatible with what I understand democracy to be about.

You posted your video link. You said remain voters would not watch it. I watched it. I raised what I consider to be valid points. You ignored those and instead resorted to ad homiem attacks. Paphitis then comes on and say 'yeah you are right, remain voters will not watch the video' even after it was clear I had watched and then taken the trouble of sharing my opinions on it and without any comment on the points I raised but instead just jumping in and adding to your ad homiem based response.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Lordo » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:13 pm

lets face it we are about to have a third general election in 4 years and nobody says this is not democratic. and voting on a plan when we know what it is is apparenetly. there is another reason for this and tthats becasue you are full of shit. try craapping throur ass rather than your mouth in the future. the stench has become unbearable.

israel of course have had two general election in one year. now that makes them really undemocratic
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:19 pm

Lordo wrote:lets face it we are about to have a third general election in 4 years and nobody says this is not democratic. and voting on a plan when we know what it is is apparenetly. there is another reason for this and tthats becasue you are full of shit. try craapping throur ass rather than your mouth in the future. the stench has become unbearable.

israel of course have had two general election in one year. now that makes them really undemocratic


And it's going to be a world of hurt for you.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:31 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Oh right. So let's get this straight. You make a false and over hyped claim and ask others to prove you wrong rather than you providing any evidence of your over hyped claims?


a) I didn’t make a false over hyped claim. My figure within the length of a one liner with no further details was exact.
b) I gave him the choice of doing a simple Google search and prove me wrong. There are tens of google returns on the issue. The guy is such a chicken that afraids to just present me one. You know why? Because I will then shut him up immediately.

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Neeext!! ®


You always say that when you have no leg to stand on!


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Really? Is that what you understood after a used it so many times? Looks my low estimate of your intelligence was actually an over estimate. :P
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby erolz66 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:23 pm

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/tories-at-war

Well worth a watch in my opinion (if you can that is - geo blocking etc)
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:09 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oh right. So let's get this straight. You make a false and over hyped claim and ask others to prove you wrong rather than you providing any evidence of your over hyped claims?


a) I didn’t make a false over hyped claim. My figure within the length of a one liner with no further details was exact.
b) I gave him the choice of doing a simple Google search and prove me wrong. There are tens of google returns on the issue. The guy is such a chicken that afraids to just present me one. You know why? Because I will then shut him up immediately.

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Neeext!! ®


You always say that when you have no leg to stand on!


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Really? Is that what you understood after a used it so many times? Looks my low estimate of your intelligence was actually an over estimate. :P


That is what you would like to believe but you keep making over hyped insinuations and you make far too many assumptions.

And you do not like to provide any evidence yourself and resort to such insults when called on to provide proof. It;s all a one way street for you.

In the past, you claimed that all the doomsday scenarios are legitimate when they are clearly not and you ask for proof over something that can not be proven. Your KPMG link is not what I would call proof of fortune telling.

This should tell you something about the British People. The British people want to stand on their feet, are more free thinking and yes, they are more intelligent and they know exactly what they want. A concept you find difficult to grasp.

Don't ever think for one second that the British people are stupid. Look in the mirror and ask yourself what it is that you are not getting because even though you may hate the British politically, they are not stupid and they are no pushovers either. Never forget they had the biggest empire the world had ever seen. The Germans tried and failed but the Brits didn't.

I have lived them all my life, and their insights into life are different to the Cypriot mindset. They are extremely structured and regimented.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby B25 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:26 am

Check this out. All you needed to know about the no deal Brexit.

https://youtu.be/Y9NF7KR3Buw
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:07 am

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oh right. So let's get this straight. You make a false and over hyped claim and ask others to prove you wrong rather than you providing any evidence of your over hyped claims?


a) I didn’t make a false over hyped claim. My figure within the length of a one liner with no further details was exact.
b) I gave him the choice of doing a simple Google search and prove me wrong. There are tens of google returns on the issue. The guy is such a chicken that afraids to just present me one. You know why? Because I will then shut him up immediately.

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Neeext!! ®


You always say that when you have no leg to stand on!


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Really? Is that what you understood after a used it so many times? Looks my low estimate of your intelligence was actually an over estimate. :P


That is what you would like to believe but you keep making over hyped insinuations and you make far too many assumptions.

And you do not like to provide any evidence yourself and resort to such insults when called on to provide proof. It;s all a one way street for you.

In the past, you claimed that all the doomsday scenarios are legitimate when they are clearly not and you ask for proof over something that can not be proven. Your KPMG link is not what I would call proof of fortune telling.

This should tell you something about the British People. The British people want to stand on their feet, are more free thinking and yes, they are more intelligent and they know exactly what they want. A concept you find difficult to grasp.

Don't ever think for one second that the British people are stupid. Look in the mirror and ask yourself what it is that you are not getting because even though you may hate the British politically, they are not stupid and they are no pushovers either. Never forget they had the biggest empire the world had ever seen. The Germans tried and failed but the Brits didn't.

I have lived them all my life, and their insights into life are different to the Cypriot mindset. They are extremely structured and regimented.


On the contrary. I provide evidence for everything and in most cases I also provide extracts, it's just that you personally don't read any links.
The rest is just your own personal opinion... we will see if KPMG was right or not, they provided forecasts for at least the next 5 years, I am absolutely convinced that Brexit either with a deal or no deal will be damaging to Britain, and they would end up poorer compared to what they would be if they did not leave.Nobody provided any forecast as to when Britain will recover and start having growth again, and that speaks by itself.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Londonrake » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:19 am

Pyrpo.

For the third time in the space of just over a week you made a claim which was clearly absurd. You then declared that if there was any doubt you would prove it. When asked politely to do so you retreated into obfuscation, refusing to do so. That, because the simple truth is, like your 20% first no deal drop in UK GDP, it was a figment of your imagination and totally unsupportable. If you make such claims, offering to prove them you should have the backbone to do so. Failure to subsequently do that is a clear admission that you’re spouting rubbish and are backing off. I doubt anyone’s fooled by the accompanying bluster.

As far as my being “chicken” and your shutting me up’s concerned. Perhaps one day you might get the opportunity to demonstrate the former. Despite proving what you claim obviously not being your forte. As far as the latter’s concerned - dream on.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:22 am

B25 wrote:Check this out. All you needed to know about the no deal Brexit.

https://youtu.be/Y9NF7KR3Buw


I just stopped it at the point he started talking bullshit that outside of the EU they would exploit new markets for their services sector.
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