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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:13 am

cyprusgrump wrote:Food banks are needed because the government is bad at paying benefits on time, your solution of taxing more and more government simply isn't a solution...


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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:16 pm

Brillo pad scours the Tory lie pan once more.

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Re: what next?

Postby Londonrake » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:56 pm

I think you would find that there a significant number of Labour voters who opted for Leave in the EU referendum (148 of their constituencies actually) that wouldn't balk at using the word.
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:46 pm

Londonrake wrote:I think you would find that there a significant number of Labour voters who opted for Leave in the EU referendum (148 of their constituencies actually) that wouldn't balk at using the word.


Stating that there are significant numbers of traditional Labour supporters who feel betrayed by Corbyn over his position on Brexit is stating the 'bleeding obvious'. It is also, as is often your way, to avoid the point being made entirely. I doubt there are many Labour supporters who will believe the Tory lies that Corbyn has betrayed the the UK in the Why Philby did and has sold secrets to communist regimes.

Just as I suspect there are significant numbers of people across the UK and across the political spectrum who will have significant degrees of sympathy for Neil's assertion that 'surely the real scandal is the outright lies and disinformation that the Tories are spreading'.
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Re: what next?

Postby Londonrake » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:50 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I think you would find that there a significant number of Labour voters who opted for Leave in the EU referendum (148 of their constituencies actually) that wouldn't balk at using the word.


Stating that there are significant numbers of traditional Labour supporters who feel betrayed by Corbyn over his position on Brexit is stating the 'bleeding obvious'. It is also, as is often your way, to avoid the point being made entirely. I doubt there are many Labour supporters who will believe the Tory lies that Corbyn has betrayed the the UK in the Why Philby did and has sold secrets to communist regimes.

Just as I suspect there are significant numbers of people across the UK and across the political spectrum who will have significant degrees of sympathy for Neil's assertion that 'surely the real scandal is the outright lies and disinformation that the Tories are spreading'.


The people of the UK voted to leave the EU. Corbyn campaigned on a manifesto commitment of honouring that. He reneged, in what I regard as a very unprincipled way. I don’t think calling that a betrayal is hyperbole.

Many - not least Lordo of course - seek to rewrite Corbyn’s near 4 decades of being a firebrand, far left “rebel” now he’s amazingly found himself a “contender”. Much of what he’s done in the past speaks for itself. I regard him as a betrayer in that respect. Frankly, the idea that the security of the UK would rest on Corbyn, Abbott and Thornbury is a prospect that fills me with both horror and the desire to ROFLMAO. You couldn’t make it up.
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:06 pm

Londonrake wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I think you would find that there a significant number of Labour voters who opted for Leave in the EU referendum (148 of their constituencies actually) that wouldn't balk at using the word.


Stating that there are significant numbers of traditional Labour supporters who feel betrayed by Corbyn over his position on Brexit is stating the 'bleeding obvious'. It is also, as is often your way, to avoid the point being made entirely. I doubt there are many Labour supporters who will believe the Tory lies that Corbyn has betrayed the the UK in the Why Philby did and has sold secrets to communist regimes.

Just as I suspect there are significant numbers of people across the UK and across the political spectrum who will have significant degrees of sympathy for Neil's assertion that 'surely the real scandal is the outright lies and disinformation that the Tories are spreading'.


The people of the UK voted to leave the EU. Corbyn campaigned on a manifesto commitment of honouring that. He reneged, in what I regard as a very unprincipled way. I don’t think calling that a betrayal is hyperbole.

Many - not least Lordo of course - seek to rewrite Corbyn’s near 4 decades of being a firebrand, far left “rebel” now he’s amazingly found himself a “contender”. Much of what he’s done in the past speaks for itself. I regard him as a betrayer in that respect. Frankly, the idea that the security of the UK would rest on Corbyn, Abbott and Thornbury is a prospect that fills me with both horror and the desire to ROFLMAO. You couldn’t make it up.


lol

What I was talking about was the Tory lies exposed by Neil in the interview clip I posted. For some strange reason in response to that you seem to be determined to talk about any BUT that ;)

Do YOU think Corbyn has betrayed the UK in the way Kim Philby did or not ? Do YOU think he has sold UK secrets to communist regimes or not ?

lol

are you have you ever been a politician Londonrake ? ;)
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:57 pm

Londonrake wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I think you would find that there a significant number of Labour voters who opted for Leave in the EU referendum (148 of their constituencies actually) that wouldn't balk at using the word.


Stating that there are significant numbers of traditional Labour supporters who feel betrayed by Corbyn over his position on Brexit is stating the 'bleeding obvious'. It is also, as is often your way, to avoid the point being made entirely. I doubt there are many Labour supporters who will believe the Tory lies that Corbyn has betrayed the the UK in the Why Philby did and has sold secrets to communist regimes.

Just as I suspect there are significant numbers of people across the UK and across the political spectrum who will have significant degrees of sympathy for Neil's assertion that 'surely the real scandal is the outright lies and disinformation that the Tories are spreading'.


The people of the UK voted to leave the EU. Corbyn campaigned on a manifesto commitment of honouring that. He reneged, in what I regard as a very unprincipled way. I don’t think calling that a betrayal is hyperbole.

Many - not least Lordo of course - seek to rewrite Corbyn’s near 4 decades of being a firebrand, far left “rebel” now he’s amazingly found himself a “contender”. Much of what he’s done in the past speaks for itself. I regard him as a betrayer in that respect. Frankly, the idea that the security of the UK would rest on Corbyn, Abbott and Thornbury is a prospect that fills me with both horror and the desire to ROFLMAO. You couldn’t make it up.

this is the whole argument. i cannot expres this in any way. the problem is thet 17.4 million pibol voted to leave the eu and kants like you claim that all 17.4 milion voted for may or boris leave plan. that is just plain fakin stupid. there is 4 million labour supporters who voted on soft brexit and probably another few million tories too.

why the fak would they be betrayed when corbyn is offering them to make a deal where our rights and jobs are portected and having got the deal than ask them to vote for it.

why are you two so faking stupid. i don't consider bafidi being stupid as to call him stupid would be an insult to all stupid people.
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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:52 pm

Lordo wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I think you would find that there a significant number of Labour voters who opted for Leave in the EU referendum (148 of their constituencies actually) that wouldn't balk at using the word.


Stating that there are significant numbers of traditional Labour supporters who feel betrayed by Corbyn over his position on Brexit is stating the 'bleeding obvious'. It is also, as is often your way, to avoid the point being made entirely. I doubt there are many Labour supporters who will believe the Tory lies that Corbyn has betrayed the the UK in the Why Philby did and has sold secrets to communist regimes.

Just as I suspect there are significant numbers of people across the UK and across the political spectrum who will have significant degrees of sympathy for Neil's assertion that 'surely the real scandal is the outright lies and disinformation that the Tories are spreading'.


The people of the UK voted to leave the EU. Corbyn campaigned on a manifesto commitment of honouring that. He reneged, in what I regard as a very unprincipled way. I don’t think calling that a betrayal is hyperbole.

Many - not least Lordo of course - seek to rewrite Corbyn’s near 4 decades of being a firebrand, far left “rebel” now he’s amazingly found himself a “contender”. Much of what he’s done in the past speaks for itself. I regard him as a betrayer in that respect. Frankly, the idea that the security of the UK would rest on Corbyn, Abbott and Thornbury is a prospect that fills me with both horror and the desire to ROFLMAO. You couldn’t make it up.

this is the whole argument. i cannot expres this in any way. the problem is thet 17.4 million pibol voted to leave the eu and kants like you claim that all 17.4 milion voted for may or boris leave plan. that is just plain fakin stupid. there is 4 million labour supporters who voted on soft brexit and probably another few million tories too.

why the fak would they be betrayed when corbyn is offering them to make a deal where our rights and jobs are portected and having got the deal than ask them to vote for it.

why are you two so faking stupid. i don't consider bafidi being stupid as to call him stupid would be an insult to all stupid people.


What is 'just plain fakin stupid' is that you (and your alter ego Erolz) know why the 17.4M people voted for Leave better than they did... :roll:
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:29 pm

cyprusgrump wrote: (and your alter ego Erolz),,,,


lol.

remember when I talked about how your binary world view forces you to consider everyone you put in a given box in your head like 'socialist' as being the same regardless of anything they might and say or do as an individual ? About how this need to polarise everything into 'with me or against me' false dichotomies that exists only in your head in turn forces you to try and impose this fictional and limited world view back on the universe in order to try and make it real ? Well you have pretty much demonstrated all that in the most literal way possible. lol

All this accusation and suspicion of 'sock puppetry' from a poster hiding his real identity behind a fictitious name aimed at some one who has been posting here for the last 15 years under his plain old real name. lol

Please do keep on 'pushing' this idea if you like. Keep on thinking you are showing how clever you are when in fact you just emphasise how limited you modes of thought are. It really is very amusing to me, so please do keep it up if you feel so inclined. You could even do a poll lol. Is Lordo erolz's sock puppet ? Something like that. lol
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Re: what next?

Postby Londonrake » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:39 pm

Lordo wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I think you would find that there a significant number of Labour voters who opted for Leave in the EU referendum (148 of their constituencies actually) that wouldn't balk at using the word.


Stating that there are significant numbers of traditional Labour supporters who feel betrayed by Corbyn over his position on Brexit is stating the 'bleeding obvious'. It is also, as is often your way, to avoid the point being made entirely. I doubt there are many Labour supporters who will believe the Tory lies that Corbyn has betrayed the the UK in the Why Philby did and has sold secrets to communist regimes.

Just as I suspect there are significant numbers of people across the UK and across the political spectrum who will have significant degrees of sympathy for Neil's assertion that 'surely the real scandal is the outright lies and disinformation that the Tories are spreading'.


The people of the UK voted to leave the EU. Corbyn campaigned on a manifesto commitment of honouring that. He reneged, in what I regard as a very unprincipled way. I don’t think calling that a betrayal is hyperbole.

Many - not least Lordo of course - seek to rewrite Corbyn’s near 4 decades of being a firebrand, far left “rebel” now he’s amazingly found himself a “contender”. Much of what he’s done in the past speaks for itself. I regard him as a betrayer in that respect. Frankly, the idea that the security of the UK would rest on Corbyn, Abbott and Thornbury is a prospect that fills me with both horror and the desire to ROFLMAO. You couldn’t make it up.

this is the whole argument. i cannot expres this in any way. the problem is thet 17.4 million pibol voted to leave the eu and kants like you claim that all 17.4 milion voted for may or boris leave plan. that is just plain fakin stupid. there is 4 million labour supporters who voted on soft brexit and probably another few million tories too.

why the fak would they be betrayed when corbyn is offering them to make a deal where our rights and jobs are portected and having got the deal than ask them to vote for it.

why are you two so faking stupid. i don't consider bafidi being stupid as to call him stupid would be an insult to all stupid people.


If you expect serious discussions on weighty matters you really need to curb your compulsion for foul-mouthed, juvenile ranting.......................boy.
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