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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:22 pm

Lordo wrote:its interesting that the father of the victim said his son would not wish this incident to be used to introduce any draconian measures and yet here is b'stard anouncing that he will look into 74 other cases of people released early in similar circumstances. having been released they have not caused any problems and yet they may well be returned to prison, so what's he going to do? put them back into prison and will that solve the problem.

very interesting conversation this morning on lbc. the daughter of the swinehound mp killed in the brighton bomb in 84 actually asked to meet the bomber after he was released. the asshole presenter was trying to get something he can attack the ira with and and asked to comment what was the first thing she said to him, and of course her comment surprised him. she first did not want to say what she told him but he insisted and she replied. she said she thanked him for meeting her. also after talking to him, she was able to have closure and was passionate about the good friday agreement and how it had helped stop the killings and must be protected at all costs.

He still went on about how he cannot forgive these people. who the fak cares what he thinks. here is an individual who has forgiven the individual responsible for her father's death and here is an asshole who wants to continue with the hatred. another asshole presenter will never forgive corbyn for talking to members of the ira or hammas while we have assholes in government who were taking cocaine while corbyn was trying to help the peace processes.

lets face it unless you make a huge effort in re-educating yourself you will remain as you were born, assholes.



cyprusgrump wrote:Read Bore-Dough's posts... There is little point responding to the illiterate ringpiece in any other way... :lol:

If anybody exposes a flaw or weakness in his argument he just repeats them with added insults and profanity... :roll:



My case rests, again... :roll:
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Re: what next?

Postby Londonrake » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:51 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:My case rests, again... :roll:


Ahh fink yu re bing a beet unfear CG. Dis es ebveously a peoble of hi interleickt. Hi is e min ob de futeer. Dahhhhh! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:54 pm

Londonrake wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:My case rests, again... :roll:


Ahh fink yu re bing a beet unfear CG. Dis es ebveously a peoble of hi interleickt. Hi is e min ob de futeer. Dahhhhh! :lol: :lol: :lol:



Fak off LR u swine! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: what next?

Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:04 pm

Londonrake wrote:The legislation which allowed Mr Khan (no relation, apparently) to get out, having only served half of his term, was implemented by Labour in 2008. It was revoked in 2012 by the Tories but wasn't retrospective. So Khan, having been convicted prior to 2012, only did half of his porridge, due to Labour policy. Get it?

You're right CG. Dialogue with Mr Lordo is a total "faikin" waste of time. That, due to his being a robotic "kant" without an original thought in his "stupid" head. He's a "Faiking" moron.

There - if you're going to be hypocritical better make a good job of it. :lol:

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It is pointless blaming the system and Labour that Khan was released after he only served half his 14 year sentence, because Khan serving his full sentence was no guarantee that he would not have done what he did. IMHO, perhaps he would have done worse things by being even more bitter and more radicalized in prison for feeling his crime did not fit the 14 year punishment he had gotten, so he would seek revenge on the country, so that his crime would fit the punishment he had already served. Trying to understand Khan’s mind is a futile attempt, but collective punishment on everyone in similar situations can only make matters worse in the future. The state is either going to help these people who have been radicalized to bring them back into the society or just hang them or life in prison, and the same would go to all the rapist, all the child molesters, all violent street gangs and so on.

So what say you, do you still want to blame Labour for what Khan did, and if so, get ready to open the gallows for mass hangings or fill the prisons to the rim with all the criminals since we don’t know which one would commit more crimes in the future upon their release whenever that may be.
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Re: what next?

Postby Londonrake » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:33 pm

No, I don't want to blame Labour. In fact I don't want to blame anybody in particular. It's an election campaign though of course. :roll:

However, Labour have tried to cash in on "cuts". But of course it wouldn't have mattered in this case if there had been another million police on the streets and ten times the supporting bureaucracy. There's no way to stop people like Khan short of pretty draconian acts. The first being not to let people like him into the country. We could also of course do something about the likes of Anjem Choudary, who sits smirking whilst a sizeable number of his "students" butcher our people on the streets.

Anyway:

If you should have accidentally wandered into the discussion between Yvette Cooper and Priti Patel today you would have seen the former trying to blame the Conservatives for Khan's early release. Only to be destroyed by Patel who pointed out that he was in fact let out early by 2008 Labour legislation. That having been revoked by the Conservatives in 2012. Cooper clearly didn't know that. Perhaps she has the same briefing team as Abbott.

Let the election campaign continue - unabated. :roll:
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:40 pm

Londonrake wrote:The legislation which allowed Mr Khan (no relation, apparently) to get out, having only served half of his term, was implemented by Labour in 2008. It was revoked in 2012 by the Tories but wasn't retrospective. So Khan, having been convicted prior to 2012, only did half of his porridge, due to Labour policy. Get it?


He was sentenced to a term that was indeterminate until assessed to no longer be a risk, despite the labour legislation you talk about. It was on appeal that this was overturned. Had the judges not granted this appeal then he would not have been released in the way he was and they granted the appeal knowing what the current law was. Still best blame Labour anyway. One of the terms of his licence was that he was banned from travelling to London. A one day exception was granted by someone for him to attend the conference in Fishmonger Hall. Still best blame Labour for that. Had this license condition been enforced, had the relevant bodies the man power needed to enforce such, the manpower to monitor his electronic tag, and take action when in breach, then this atrocity almost certainly would not have occurred, been able to occur. Still best blame Labour for that. The Tories, including Johnson himself and personally were warned multiple times about such risks, by multiple people in the previous ten years they have been in power and they did not act. Still best blame Labour for that. The Tories have cut 40% from the budget to the criminal justice system since coming to power in 2010. Still best blame Labour for that.

Starting to see the pattern here yet ? Time for some honesty perhaps ?
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:46 pm

Londonrake wrote:If you should have accidentally wandered into the discussion between Yvette Cooper and Priti Patel today you would have seen the former trying to blame the Conservatives for Khan's early release. Only to be destroyed by Patel who pointed out that he was in fact let out early by 2008 Labour legislation. That having been revoked by the Conservatives in 2012. Cooper clearly didn't know that. Perhaps she has the same briefing team as Abbott.

Let the election campaign continue - unabated. :roll:


People were able to see the difference between the two parties and which is trying to play the blame game more than which on this mornings Andrew Marr show, with interviews by Marr of Shami Chakrabarti followed directly by Johnson himself. The difference was stark and plain and people are not stupid.
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Re: what next?

Postby Londonrake » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:48 pm

The usual obfuscating BS. :D

You need to get some sort of life - outside of this tiny forum. Otherwise you will end up with Lordoitis (albeit with reasonable English). Seriously. :wink:

See you in a few days.

Life! :lol:
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:54 pm

Londonrake wrote:The usual obfuscating BS. :D

You need to get some sort of life - outside of this tiny forum. Otherwise you will end up with Lordoitis (albeit with reasonable English). Seriously. :wink:

See you in a few days.

Life! :lol:


Patterns

Post your own partial view publicly. When counter views and opinions are offered in response to your post, label them 'usual obfuscating BS' and then ignore them entirely. Instead tell the person making them to go get a life.

Yep see you in a few days no doubt.
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Re: what next?

Postby Londonrake » Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:05 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Londonrake wrote:The usual obfuscating BS. :D

You need to get some sort of life - outside of this tiny forum. Otherwise you will end up with Lordoitis (albeit with reasonable English). Seriously. :wink:

See you in a few days.

Life! :lol:


Patterns

Post your own partial view publicly. When counter views and opinions are offered in response to your post, label them 'usual obfuscating BS' and then ignore them entirely. Instead tell the person making them to go get a life.

Yep see you in a few days no doubt.


Well, actually, for some time now I've been getting a bit weary of this forum. Not least because I'm sick and tired of the 50% posts consisting of "faikin" stuff. The worst case of a forum cave dweller I've ever seen. :lol: I've tried to change that but clearly it's been a nugatory effort. If Mr Lordo represents the brave new socialist world that you advocate then frankly you're welcome to it.

I might pop back in after the election to see how things are going. Meanwhile - all the best. :wink:
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