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Re: what next?

Postby miltiades » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:39 pm

Following the negative report by the IFS the pound has taken a nose dive.
Lost almost a cent against Euro currently trading at 1.113.
Do bear in mind that Leavers do not give a toss just as long as the UK is out of the EU.
They will, if it happens, no more holidays in
Europe, Bignor Regis and Brighton more likely. Mind you The Clown and his clan are all ok and so is the arsehole Fuckrage.
For me the proof of the pudding is in the eating. A day after the ref . Results and the pound lost around 15%.
Still our NHS will have that illusionary 350 million quid a week .
What a bunch of illiterate microcosmic little Englanders. Know wo i mea mate !!
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Re: what next?

Postby Kikapu » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:23 pm

miltiades wrote:Following the negative report by the IFS the pound has taken a nose dive.
Lost almost a cent against Euro currently trading at 1.113.
Do bear in mind that Leavers do not give a toss just as long as the UK is out of the EU.
They will, if it happens, no more holidays in
Europe, Bignor Regis and Brighton more likely. Mind you The Clown and his clan are all ok and so is the arsehole Fuckrage.
For me the proof of the pudding is in the eating. A day after the ref . Results and the pound lost around 15%.
Still our NHS will have that illusionary 350 million quid a week .
What a bunch of illiterate microcosmic little Englanders. Know wo i mea mate !!

Holidays at Butlins will make a comeback as it was in the 70s. :D
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:08 pm

it seems the strategy at the b'stard berhof residence was not what they led us to believe. they know how devestating no-deal would be at this point and all along they intended to extend but did not want to take the blame for the extension. in the meantime they worked their audiance to hate mps and all those who did not vote for b'stard in the last 6 or so votes. so it seems that he will send the letter after all and let corbyn call for an election of his own choosing. his stance will be no-deal as he has shown not to be able to get one. liberals on the other hand intend to revoke article 50 and labour will stand on get a deal that is protecting our rights, jobs and environment as well as northern ireland border and let the people confirm that it is indeed the deal they were after or that they wish to change their minds and remain after all.

considering 56% of people believe that we should have a second vote now its a no brainer. as b'stard has gone back on his word and has not been able to leave by 31st of october fakage will be on his back like fakin rash.

finally we can see the wood from the trees. clear daylight between the parties. let the people decide. now how democratic is that?
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:15 pm

the stupid ass forgets he went to the eu and met merkel and promissed that he could get alternatives to the backstop in 30 days. now he is claiming that eu will not budge. where did eu tell him that they would budge over the backstop. backstop is an insurance policy ffs. even if they had the alternatives avaialble why would you remove the insurance till you see them working. the ashole believes that everybody is as stupid as he is.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:40 pm

when tusk gave us extension to 31 october, he said use it well. well it was totally ignored. they wasted months selecting a leader and even more time deciding to make an offer of a deal already refused.

so now he says even wiser words.


Donald Tusk

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[email protected], what’s at stake is not winning some stupid blame game. At stake is the future of Europe and the UK as well as the security and interests of our people. You don’t want a deal, you don’t want an extension, you don’t want to revoke, quo vadis?
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strange enough that has been the exact strategy of b'stard and his hunchback.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:30 pm

It’s Johnson’s Brexit or Corbyn — there is no third way

https://www.ft.com/content/21f8dd54-e8f8-11e9-a240-3b065ef5fc55
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Re: what next?

Postby Kikapu » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:31 pm

Lordo wrote:It’s Johnson’s Brexit or Corbyn — there is no third way

https://www.ft.com/content/21f8dd54-e8f8-11e9-a240-3b065ef5fc55


Lordo, can you please copy paste the article as I can‘t open the link without being a subscriber...thanks.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:49 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:It’s Johnson’s Brexit or Corbyn — there is no third way

https://www.ft.com/content/21f8dd54-e8f8-11e9-a240-3b065ef5fc55


Lordo, can you please copy paste the article as I can‘t open the link without being a subscriber...thanks.

i am afraid we are in he same boat. i appreciate what they are talking about so i am afraid i heve no need for further information.

labour says deal and voteon it. tories say no deal just leave and liberals say revoke. the lines are clear. let the election begin. the only thing stopping an election are the liberals and the turncoats at the tory party. corbyn now has to wait till exension is given and he can support b'stards call for a general election.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:39 am

how do you explain to an englishman what northern ireland means to brexit and visa versa.

let’s go to the beginning. there was a time when ireland did not exist, a bit like a victorian marriage. the wife had no rights and could not divorce. eventually 1949 comes along and britain has had enough her and divorced her but kept northern ireland. now northern ireland is no different than two children which uk kept against the wishes of ireland. anyway decade has gone and after a lot of fighting eventually uk in 1998has agreed to give access to the children to the mother. so now both uk and ireland have equal rights politically in northern ireland. and then without any consideration uk has decided to brexit out of the eu and take northern ireland with her. not that different than an abusive father deciding to move out to another country and take the children with her. and there lies the problem. the court order gave equal custody to both countries as it were.

so when no10 says merkel bragged about leaving the eu if they so wished but uk could not because of ireland, that’s exactly what they meant. germany has no issue like northern ireland. in some ways uk is the same, they can leave anytime they like but they have no right to take northern ireland with them. if ireland decided to brexit they would be in the same boat, they would have to leave without northern ireland.

how do you explain this to your average brexshitter so they actually understand the problem.

the other day a guest on question time asked if there was another country that has similar problems and how did they solve it and was told it does not exist anywhere in the world never mind in an eu country. and yet it does and they have solved it. It is right here in the little oll cyprus. we have a border and the north was declared outside the eu. So the only solution that will work is put the border between uk and northern ireland in the irish sea.

was this not one of the questions i asked about? how will the good friday agreement affect brexit and people said it should make no difference. like hell it doesn't.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:31 am

i don't know if anybody here fully understands the prase headless chicken but that's exactly what this government is doing. they prorogue parliament for a queen's speech they have no hope of getting through but they aske ms to come in on the 19th the day b'stard is supposed to send the letter.

he will be asking parlaiment to see if they want to leave without a deal or revoke. these are questions that were asked many times before and the answer to both is no. why does he miss the obvious solution.

labour policy on a deal is perfect.
we reamin in customes union and fta:

which means northern ireland is not an issue.
we can continue to trade with the eu as normal and use the very advantages wto schedules with the rest of the world without having to make our own deals which would never be as good as the ones eu has in wto.
yes we will continue to pay into the eu the membership fee but that is more than compensated with not paying any taxes either direction.

it will than leave us to do as we wish in our own country like nationalising the utility companies like gas, water, railways bt and the airports as well as take away all the private motorways and bridges built into public ownership. this is the reason why corbyn and skinner supports brexit. what's wrong with that?

and b'stard does not seem to see the advantages. what a shame.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49984367
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