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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:53 pm

Here is another good person to listen to: Nigel Farage himself.

Always I have found him to be intelligent, passionate about BREXIT and yet very factual.

He is no huge fan of BORIS. He doesn't trust BORIS and thinks he will reheat May's deal. Farage prefers a WTO BREXIT. He as a result is a lot more hard line than Boris is who is negotiating with the EU.

This guy will be the next PM of BORIS does the dirty and breaks his promise. So might as well start getting use to him because he could end up in number 10 Downing Street and good luck to the EU if that happens. The EU are gonna need all the luck they can get because Farage will just withdraw all Commissioners and MEPs from the EU.

I like Farage very much.

If the conservatives and The BREXIT Party unite, they are unstoppable. At the moment both parties are going for broke and feeling each other out but eventually they may not have any other choice but go in coalition.

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Re: what next?

Postby miltiades » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:16 pm

He? Farage, is a self centered loathsome " politician" one that I find absolutely abhorent. He is a racist and a demagogue, a selfish arrogant man who milked the EU for years. He was very quick in applying for German passports for his kids directly after the ref
Results. He cares for one and only. Him self.
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:Here is another good person to listen to: Nigel Farage himself.


So LBC is not part of the corrupt, elite, left wing bias, fake news MSN then ? Or not when it gives airtime to Farage but is when it gives air time to people who disagree with you ? See the problem yet with your simplistic MSM narrative ?

Paphitis wrote:Always I have found him to be intelligent, passionate about BREXIT and yet very factual.


Few people think Farage is stupid. He is an astute political operator. However the idea that you like him because of his qualities rather than like him because he reinforces what you want to believe is not one I find particularly credible myself.

Paphitis wrote: Farage prefers a WTO BREXIT.


He does but the question that matters is do a majority of the UK population prefer such a means of leaving the EU. Securing such an exit on the basis that there is majority support for it would be democratic. Trying to secure such by means of tricks and 'technicalities' when such is not the majority desire of the people is not democratic. It is an attempt to subvert democracy.

Paphitis wrote:This guy will be the next PM of BORIS does the dirty and breaks his promise.


First he will need to win a seat as an MP, something he as attempted 7 times to date, failing every time. Then he will need to have a party that is able to secure a majority in the commons. Once more I think that ladbrokes have a better chance of predicting the future on such things than you do and if you look at their odds of him becoming the next PM of the UK you will see their estimation of the chances of such is a long way from yours.

Paphitis wrote:I like Farage very much.


Of course you do because he reinforces your pre held views in terms of what you want to believe.

Paphitis wrote:If the conservatives and The BREXIT Party unite, they are unstoppable. At the moment both parties are going for broke and feeling each other out but eventually they may not have any other choice but go in coalition.


Farage's 'power' to influence what actual occurs, is to threaten the conservatives if they do not implement what they want. Their problem is that if they were to 'pull the trigger' on their threat, that only takes them further away from securing their objectives. The conservatives know this.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:22 pm

miltiades wrote:He? Farage, is a self centered loathsome " politician" one that I find absolutely abhorent. He is a racist and a demagogue, a selfish arrogant man who milked the EU for years. He was very quick in applying for German passports for his kids directly after the ref
Results. He cares for one and only. Him self.


There we go again. You can't beat any of his arguments so you resort to labelling him a racist. Really?

What has he done to deserve being called a racist?

Secondly, he doesn't even consider himself a politician. he is more of a campaigner for BREXIT. He is more like the anti-thesis of the politicians. He is a nationalist. He will not sell Britain out to the Multinationals like you have and he certainly will not budge an inch to the criminal EU.

He is the only politician that works his dam hardest to get rid of HIS OWN CHAIR. He works for Britain, not for the chair. That alone makes him genuine and that cuts through to the people.

You will not get another like Farage.
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:41 pm

Paphitis wrote:What has he done to deserve being called a racist?


There is no such binary thing as 'racist' or 'not racist', with nothing in between. I do not think Farage himself is on any particular extreme end of any racism scale or spectrum. However I do think he can, will and does seek to exploit such extremes of scales of racism in others in order to secure what he wants.

Paphitis wrote:Secondly, he doesn't even consider himself a politician.


You no doubt do not consider yourself a dick head but that does not mean you are not a dick head. Anyone who has been an MEP for as long as he has, is a politician by simple definition. He may well be an atypical politician but he is a politician none the less.

Paphitis wrote: He will not sell Britain out to the Multinationals like you have and he certainly will not budge an inch to the criminal EU.


He can not sell, or sell out, or not sell or sell out, what he does not own. He does not own Britain. As for the idea that if he were ever to gain direct domestic power in the UK, he would be a champion of relentlessly reigning in the power of multi nationals is one I personally find comical. Just look at what he did before he became an MEP. Criminality is not defined by you just applying the label to anything you do not like. I know Trump does this but that does not mean that this is how criminality is defined. Criminality is defined by someone or some entity acting in breach of laws and then being brought to trial for such offences and then being found guilty by a court with necessary jurisdiction to make such judgements.

Paphitis wrote:You will not get another like Farage.


There have always been and will always be the like of Farage. He is an 'archetype'.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:42 pm

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Re: what next?

Postby Kikapu » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:59 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Paphitis,
No one accusing anyone being a KKK or being a Nazi. All I said was, that racism comes in many forms and one does not need to be wearing a KKK outfit, that’s all. That is a huge difference from your response. :roll:


Yes they do Kikapu.

People are doing this all the time.

Even you yesterday accused Boris and Nigel of being racist only yesterday and if they were anymore racist they would be in the KKK.


This is the 3rd time you have misquoted me. Yes, Boris and Farage are racists and you can throw Trump into the mix also, but I never called them of being KKK or a Nazi. I said racism comes in many forms and not just by those wearing a KKK outfit. I hope this clarifies this issue for you.
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:17 pm

Now here is a no deal brexit headline the caught my eye. Might be a 'positive' or 'negative' depending on your perspective but not a consequence that had occurred to me before I saw the article. Enjoy :)

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/brexi ... ars-645186
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Re: what next?

Postby Kikapu » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:35 pm

erolz66 wrote:Now here is a no deal brexit headline the caught my eye. Might be a 'positive' or 'negative' depending on your perspective but not a consequence that had occurred to me before I saw the article. Enjoy :)

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/brexi ... ars-645186

Yes, a lot of people would get fucked with a no deal brexit! :D
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:13 pm

erolz66 wrote:Now here is a no deal brexit headline the caught my eye. Might be a 'positive' or 'negative' depending on your perspective but not a consequence that had occurred to me before I saw the article. Enjoy :)

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/brexi ... ars-645186

no need for no-deal brexit for this. germany is in the eu and yet if you travel on german motorways, there are lots of lay-bys with a mobile home with a nice looking young girl in her bikini sitting in the front seat welcoming you.
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