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Re: what next?

Postby miltiades » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:45 am

Why does anyone take this moron even a tiny bit seriously ? Haven't you yet realized that he is an utter idiot ? The fact that he ....knows so much about the UK, a country he has only visited perhaps once or twice or Cyprus that again has only visited perhaps again once or twice ?
Just look at the crap he posted on the Syrian thread, imagining himself as the coalition's commander in chief. He hates Russia, he refers to Putin as Pootin, he hates intensely in fact as much as he hates the ..." criminal" EU. Just as the other arsehole, Fuckrage, he made sure he and his family have EU passports.
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:58 am

B25 wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:I feel concerned that Cyporus will indeed lose its culture over time. Not only will it lose its culture, but eventually the Cypriots will lose politically and I don't wish to spell it out for you although I would be happy to PM you.


Cypriot culture has survived and evolved for millennia. It has survived and in some cases culturally outlasted Phoenician rule, Assyrian rule, Persian rule, Alexandrian rule, Ptolemaic rule, Roman rule, Byzantine rule, Crusader rule, Lusigian rule, Genoese dominance, Mameluk rule, Venician rule, Ottoman rule, British rule.


And during all this time they remain Cypriot (and Hellenic), and then come the Ottoman Rule and they would have you believe that Cyprus was Turkish ffs. Thanks for the reminder all the same.


A chocolate cake is not chocolate. Just because chocolate may be the biggest single and dominant ingredient, that does not mean it is chocolate, just chocolate, only chocolate and can be nothing but chocolate. Cypriot culture today is not just Hellenic culture, only Hellenic and can be nothing but Hellenic. It is more than just that. Greater than just that. Cypriot culture existed and pre dates the evolution and subsumption of ottoman culture as well as that of hellenic culture.

Imo the only real threat to Cypriot culture is Cypriots themselves as individuals, choosing to renounce and deny the uniqueness of the pluralism of Cypriot culture as it has and continues to evolve, in favour of some other culture and declaring that only this other culture alone and nothing else is or can be the nature of Cypriot culture. This is, imo, the case whether the other culture is Greek, Turkish, European or anything else other than Cypriot.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:16 am

if the brexshitters have so much faith in the workings of the stormont and its ability to exercise democracy, why not allow northern ireland to remain in the customs union till the free trade deal is negotiated with the uk and also allow stormont to decide every four years whether to reamin in it or not. chnageing the default to be in rather than out seems to be a very easy compromise to make on the part of the brexshitters if they have so much faith in stormont to be able to make such a decision.

there is a reason why they chose the default to be out. this is becasue out of the 90 mps in stormont 30 mps can block any bill which gives dup a veto in future decisions. the reasl democracy is to allow the northern irish people to vote in a referendum whether they want to remain in the eu or not and that way they can decide which to choose. and of course there is the little matter of good friday agreement which cannot be negated by any voting. it can only be negated by all the signators actually agreeing to negate it.

the time is coing to an end now, we have one week left before it wil lbe batantly obvious that there is no deal to be had and the crunch will come. finally boris b'stard to be removed by security guards from no 10.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:25 am

so it seems we have come full circle. the yanks have gone and armed the kerds to fight their war against isil and today they anounced they will withdraw from the north syria so the terggs can create a so called "safe zone" and dump all the syrian refugees in terggy there. and there is more, they will take all the isil captives from the kerds.

can anybody see a any flaws in this plan?
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:28 am

Lordo wrote: we have one week left before it wil lbe batantly obvious that there is no deal to be had and the crunch will come.


There is a deal to be had. There always has been a deal to be had. What there is not is a deal that can satisfy the extreme leavers desires to end in one day all UK entanglement with EU entirely that also does not have real and material negative consequences for the UK (and others) and / or that does not require the EU to become something different from what it is and what the remaining 27 members want it to be in order to facilitate the UK leaving.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:30 am

B25 wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I feel concerned that Cyporus will indeed lose its culture over time. Not only will it lose its culture, but eventually the Cypriots will lose politically and I don't wish to spell it out for you although I would be happy to PM you.


Cypriot culture has survived and evolved for millennia. It has survived and in some cases culturally outlasted Phoenician rule, Assyrian rule, Persian rule, Alexandrian rule, Ptolemaic rule, Roman rule, Byzantine rule, Crusader rule, Lusigian rule, Genoese dominance, Mameluk rule, Venician rule, Ottoman rule, British rule.


And during all this time they remain Cypriot (and Hellenic), and then come the Ottoman Rule and they would have you believe that Cyprus was Turkish ffs. Thanks for the reminder all the same.

so interesting that cypriots were hellenic even before the hellens arrived. it seems there is no border to the average sheepriot hellenic stupidity. hellens were in cyprus less than the ottomans you stupid boy.
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:33 am

Lordo wrote: it seems there is no border to the average sheepriot hellenic stupidity.


Or the average sheepriot turkic stupidity either.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:35 am

here is the bexit secertary explaining how they will be able to send th eletter and leave by 31st of october. the magic word is he wil lhave a deal by the end of the week. just how deluded are these assholes.

so now we know what the plan is. offer them something they cannot accept and then we can blame them for not agreeing with it. compromise on our side he says, bu offering to leave the customes union and allowing dup to keep northern ireland out and the same time destroy the gfa which dup never agreed with.

how clever is that? to clever but it will not work.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49951199/plea-for-brexit-secretary-to-reveal-cunning-plan
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:45 am

here is anther interesting thought.

<<<When did we convince ourselves that having a vote is undemocratic?
This weekend I got into a referendum debate with a twist. Sat in a Swiss wine bar the case was made for and against subsidising farmers who don’t dehorn their livestock, which was one of the issues voted upon in the latest referendum in the country. This year alone the Swiss have participated in ten>>>>


wow so the swiss must be the most undemocratic nation on earth.



https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/when-did-we-convince-ourselves-that-having-a-vote-is-undemocratic/05/12/
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:53 am

here is an idea that is the thin end of the wedge. few weeks back labour suggested that we can reduce work to 4 days a week without loss of pay and benefits.

and here is a company that has implemented it. admittedly they have chosen to increase the hours in a day slightly but that will be reduced to normal hoursagain in no time.

oneof the benefits is that sickness level has dropped.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/when-did-we-convince-ourselves-that-having-a-vote-is-undemocratic/05/12/
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