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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:03 pm

erolz66 wrote:
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erolz66 wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-warned-london-bridge-attack-usman-khan-stabbing-terrorist-a9227681.html

Boris Johnson was personally warned about risks of freeing terrorists but said there was ‘no money’ to deradicalise them, ex-top prosecutor says Damaging claim comes as solicitor for London Bridge attacker says he asked for help to turn away from terrorism – but was not given any


he does not believe in investigating historical child abuse either. he actually refered to it as spaffing up against the wall. the man is a derranged lunatic and should be locked up in an mental assylum.


This horrific attack, linked as it is to Tory austerity and linked to Johnson personally could well be Johnson's 'dementia tax'. More devastating electorally even. Wishful thinking perhaps I would admit but certainly possible I recon.

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Who prophesies with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'."

lets hear it from the man.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:15 am

here is hancock in action. tory party reduced to mediocraty.

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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:57 am

If Corbyn is correct and the UK Govt. has been talking to the US about 'opening up' the NHS to the American Healthcare Sytem, this should open a few eyes as to what that actually means.

American Healthcare’s Coming to Britain to Make a Killing. Brits Don’t Know What’s About to Hit Them.

Why — why on earth — would anyone want American style healthcare? You might be wondering why I even ask. After all, American healthcare is one of the modern world’s greatest and most epic failures.

It’s such a failure, in fact, that something eerie and weird is happening, unheard of not just in rich countries, but even in poor ones: life expectancy is literally falling…by a year…every year. And it’s not just a failure — it’s a nightmare, that leaves people terrorized, broken, hopeless, and bankrupt. Your money, or your life. And if you don’t have money — you just…die. Americans literally beg each other online for money to pay medical bills by the millions…they cross the border into Canada to buy medicine like insulin…which, by the way, can be a “federal crime”…they have maternal mortality higher than Russia.

Full article:
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https://eand.co/american-healthcares-co ... 5c43a24edc[/url]
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:30 pm

there is infact one document that had to be released under foi and every sentence in it has been reducted. we have no idea what has been discussed from the released document. that speaks volumes. of course the b'stard claims they are just american wish list but he does not explain how he will be able to refuse any request from the americans.

another issue relates to a much more serious consequence. under wto rules if a concession is given to a country, that same concession has to be given to everybody else around the world. it was nhs and her power that managed to get the concessions from the american drug companies and if uk government relaxes those concessions it is not just nhs that will pay a lot more medication, it will be the whole world.
another issue is the length of the patent of a drug, the americans want to increase the timesace so they can only be produced by themselves. every which way you look there is this fakin monster trying to clobber you. how the hell is b'stard going to stad up to these swinehounds. i suspect they will get a cut though from the extra profits.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:41 pm

here are a few lies the b'stard calimed in his interview with marr. clearly he knew he woulld not get away with it agaonst brillopad. what kind of a fakin interviewer is marr?
1. We've obviously invested a great deal in counter-terrorism in the Spending Review. We put another £160m into counter-terrorism
2. Jeremy Corbyn has said he would disband MI5
3. We have a Queen's Speech that was blocked by Parliament
4. The government was already moving to stop automatic early release
5. The largest NHS investments in modern memory
6. he claimed that economy is now strong
7. he said tories took over with not a penny in the treasury - as if there is any money now. or has uk ever had the sitation where there has been no debt since the war ffs

how the fak did marr let him get away with such blatant lies? is he really that weak an interviewer?
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:19 pm

Robin Hood wrote:If Corbyn is correct and the UK Govt. has been talking to the US about 'opening up' the NHS to the American Healthcare Sytem, this should open a few eyes as to what that actually means.

American Healthcare’s Coming to Britain to Make a Killing. Brits Don’t Know What’s About to Hit Them.

Why — why on earth — would anyone want American style healthcare? You might be wondering why I even ask. After all, American healthcare is one of the modern world’s greatest and most epic failures.

It’s such a failure, in fact, that something eerie and weird is happening, unheard of not just in rich countries, but even in poor ones: life expectancy is literally falling…by a year…every year. And it’s not just a failure — it’s a nightmare, that leaves people terrorized, broken, hopeless, and bankrupt. Your money, or your life. And if you don’t have money — you just…die. Americans literally beg each other online for money to pay medical bills by the millions…they cross the border into Canada to buy medicine like insulin…which, by the way, can be a “federal crime”…they have maternal mortality higher than Russia.

Full article:
[url]
https://eand.co/american-healthcares-co ... 5c43a24edc[/url]


The largest cause of personal bankruptcy in the USA is medical bills.
People suffer and in some cases die in the USA because they cannot afford the costs of treatment such as insulin.

Now the NHS is not perfect - no system is - but even imperfect as it is I would say the American System is a whole lot worse.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:16 pm

this is why we cannot have this government go on any longer. they are doing to the nhs what they did to the nationalised industires. they got some to lose some money and they used that justification to to sell the lot, even profit making ones and at rock bottom price.

they have been selling off bits of the service for the last 30 years and gradually we will find out that it is fully privatised. there is no reason on earth for privetising the nhs as we already have a choice of nhs and private sector and those who wish to buy an insurance policy may do so, so they don't have to wait for the nhs and get private treatment a lot quicker.

i have had a situation where a relative of mine came to the uk for treatment and we had to go to private hospital and the first thing they asked was were we insured. not hwat is the problem and not where is the problem and not how long have you been suffering.

i would rather die waiting for nhs than use the private sector. having said that when ever i needed help i have alsways managed to get appointment with gp and hospital quite quickly. perhaps i live in a good area regarding health. but never the less there is nothing like our nhs system in the world despite what these swinehounds have done to it. they claim they have spent more than anybody on health which is total bullshit. labour under blair spent more then them and so did all labour government previously, especially the one that set it up.

american nhs is nonexistant.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby erolz66 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:36 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:The largest cause of personal bankruptcy in the USA is medical bills.
People suffer and in some cases die in the USA because they cannot afford the costs of treatment such as insulin.

Now the NHS is not perfect - no system is - but even imperfect as it is I would say the American System is a whole lot worse.


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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:05 pm

10,000 for a birth in an american hospital. so i guess trump was right but the wrong thing. we would not have the american nhs system even if it is handed on a platter. what the hell is going on over there.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:47 pm

so we started with 40 new hospitals and gradually they went down to 6 and now it seems even they are not new hospitals, they are either refurbishments or just new buildings in old hospitals. how much lies are these swinehounds going to get away with.

so much for labour policy in 2008 wht automatic release of prisoners. B'stard calimed he voted against it, and yet no record of him being in the house. and to add insult to injury nobody objected to is so it went through without division. when will it end.

sooner or later it will come home to roost.
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