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Recognize the "TRNC"? - Lose CY Citizenship

Postby Maximus » Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:25 pm

A bill has been proposed to strip or revoke CY citizenship from those who recognize the illegal occupation as a separate state.

EDEK and DIKO are justifying the bill to check the hypocrites.

Although this bill applies to anyone, it is mainly aimed at those TC who seek benefits and rights from the RoC, but ignore the obligations and do not recognize it as a sovereign state.

Are you a citizen of the RoC, but go and buy stolen property from the illegal invader and occupier. - You dont qualify. You should lose it.

Hold "official" office as a "minister" in the TRNC but dont recognize the RoC. - lose it.

Actively campaign against the RoC and support the illegal occupation instead. - lose it.

Support Turkeys illegal actions in the RoC? - lose it,

Dont recognize peoples fundamental rights in Cyprus? lose it. - you should never qualify.

love the freedom and benefits of the EU but support the illegal occupation of an EU member state. - lose it....

I think you get the idea.....

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/11/22/bill ... -in-north/
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Re: Recognize the "TRNC"? - Lose CY Citizenship

Postby Mustiejodu » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:54 am

All Turkish Cypriots are welcome to the UK to work and live and become citizens of England after we Brexit this shit communist organisation called EU so your two bit membership to a decayed hypocrite organisation which sucks money out of us who pay into this group who fund poor countries like ROC or those criminal Romanians to build lovely roads can introduce these anti TC rules. Us leaving the EU is a sign for things to come for EU so don’t rely too much on this group of loosers.
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Re: Recognize the "TRNC"? - Lose CY Citizenship

Postby Maximus » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:06 pm

Mustiejodu wrote:All Turkish Cypriots are welcome to the UK to work and live and become citizens of England after we Brexit


I doubt it, this is something that you just made up.

Mustiejodu wrote:this shit communist organisation called EU so your two bit membership to a decayed hypocrite organisation which sucks money out of us who pay into this group who fund poor countries like ROC or those criminal Romanians to build lovely roads can introduce these anti TC rules. Us leaving the EU is a sign for things to come for EU so don’t rely too much on this group of loosers.


Are you going to be relieved that the UK will stop contributing money to Turkey via the EU too?

Not sure what this has got to do with the title of this thread through.

This is about the double standards of those that recognize the "TRNC" but seeks benefits from the RoC without any of the obligations. Instead, also actively campaign against it too.

Would you say that the RoC is right then to revoke this groups "membership", when this group of people are just looking to "suck money" out of it?
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Re: Recognize the "TRNC"? - Lose CY Citizenship

Postby Lordo » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:00 am

is there no end to your stupidity. you think edek and diko can pass such a thing without the full support of akel or disy. on a scale of 1 to 10 how stupid are you. were you tested when you were young?
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Re: Recognize the "TRNC"? - Lose CY Citizenship

Postby Maximus » Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:42 am

no such thought crossed my mind.

What I was thinking though is whether this is justified. why it took so long to realize this. will it pass. etc...etc...

What are your thoughts Bordo about those hypocrites who take the benefits that an RoC passport provides without accepting any of the obligations. Then actively campaign against the RoC, support Turkey's illegalities on the island and recognize the illegal occupation instead?

What are you thoughts about those " TRNC ministers" that hold RoC passports but pillage property of RoC citizens stolen by Turkey? Shouldn't their passports be revoked because they dont recognize even half the things they are obligated to.
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Re: Recognize the "TRNC"? - Lose CY Citizenship

Postby Lordo » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:46 pm

Maximus wrote:no such thought crossed my mind.

What I was thinking though is whether this is justified. why it took so long to realize this. will it pass. etc...etc...

What are your thoughts Bordo about those hypocrites who take the benefits that an RoC passport provides without accepting any of the obligations. Then actively campaign against the RoC, support Turkey's illegalities on the island and recognize the illegal occupation instead?

What are you thoughts about those " TRNC ministers" that hold RoC passports but pillage property of RoC citizens stolen by Turkey? Shouldn't their passports be revoked because they dont recognize even half the things they are obligated to.

my thoughts on them are samewhat different to my thoughts on you.
you have taken all the tc properties and refuse to give them back. you also have stolen all their rights in law and have hijacked the government and all the investment and aid that came into cyprus since 1963 and prentend to be all innocent and a victim.
you are as victimous as epstein and will get your come upance sooner or later.
they are blood suckers but you are million times worse. you pretend not to be, they don'y hide the fact. at least they are honest with it.
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Re: Recognize the "TRNC"? - Lose CY Citizenship

Postby Maximus » Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:10 pm

Me? I did all of this.....

No wonder no one takes you seriously Bordo.

from your emotionally charged, false story.

The only thing you probably got right is that they are blood suckers.

Maybe you are one of them........
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Re: Recognize the "TRNC"? - Lose CY Citizenship

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:45 pm

Lordo wrote:is there no end to your stupidity. you think edek and diko can pass such a thing without the full support of akel or disy. on a scale of 1 to 10 how stupid are you. were you tested when you were young?


...you easily forget how Disy remained unqualified on "Greek" schooling, by abstaining, and a Bill was passed that in affect trashed the good-will Anastasiades had in the negotiations he was having with Akinci at the time. Indeed, "they" were exposed in the end and the damage it (the Bill) had caused corrected, but the dirty deed was done: with the "Greeks", "outraged" Akinci an accomplice; wasn't it Anastasiades, without anyones' support who got matters sorted out?

...indeed, in the furor, a Cypriot identity would have a value if the questions were asked to all Cypriots in a census island-wide. If it was non-discriminatory, it would expose not just "Turks", but "Greeks" (which i would expect to be a number much smaller in comparison despite the overwhelming population of Greeks).

...if you are absolutely unwilling to live under a Cypriot Republic, you should have the right to express yourself, and in so doing refrain from its benefits.

Worthily, i suggest that Cypriots may travel and enjoy their island, not as a plundering horde for bargains, or as deviants that cost "us" socially. But by seeking out other Cypriots in solidarity; there is no better way to demonstrate a sanction that counts, in Cyprus, against those, not Cypriot. Indeed, while the restriction on goods and services remains, more should be done to encourage Cypriots to take advantage of their links socially and commercially, as Cypriots, to better exploit them.

...you, and "you", should "change your mentality"; lol, you "Turk" mo' reh?
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Re: Recognize the "TRNC"? - Lose CY Citizenship

Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:02 pm

Maximus wrote:Me? I did all of this.....

No wonder no one takes you seriously Bordo.

from your emotionally charged, false story.

The only thing you probably got right is that they are blood suckers.

Maybe you are one of them........

you keep telling me that and you keep responding. when you stip responding i will believe it but to all those who suaggest really dumb things there is an old terggish saying

siking galkarmi.
do villosu mbori anegersi? - ellino lingo
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Re: Recognize the "TRNC"? - Lose CY Citizenship

Postby erolz66 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:50 am

Maximus wrote:A bill has been proposed to strip or revoke CY citizenship from those who recognize the illegal occupation as a separate state.

EDEK and DIKO are justifying the bill to check the hypocrites.


Seems like a big can of worms to me. Is there no degree of hypocrisy at all in the RoC state wanting all the rights and benefits of being regarded as the sole legitimate government of all Cypriots to then deny the obligations of that status to certain categories of Cypriot ?

What does 'recognize' even actually mean in practical terms at an individual level ? Are the GC/TC married couple that are living in the same house in the karpas they lived in pre 74 and post it, "recognizing the illegal occupation as a separate state." simply because they did not relocate to the south post 74 ? They pay taxes to the trnc for example. Should they be stripped of their Cypriot citizenship in your view ? The GC who simply returned to live in their property in the north, are they recognising the north as a seperate state just by going back to their home ?

Maximus wrote:Although this bill applies to anyone, it is mainly aimed at those TC who seek benefits and rights from the RoC, but ignore the obligations and do not recognize it as a sovereign state.


Is it the ignoring of obligations that warrants loss of citizenship or the recognizing or either or both ? Is paying tax not an obligation of a citizen ? Should someone who leaves Cyprus merely to avoid having to pay tax not ignoring / avoiding their obligations ? Should they also be stripped of citizenship on this basis ?

Maximus wrote:Are you a citizen of the RoC, but go and buy stolen property from the illegal invader and occupier. - You dont qualify. You should lose it.


what do you mean by property ? Just land or buildings ? Or do you include a Cypriot who buys anything from a shop in the north ? Uses a casino in the north ? Should they be stripped of their Cypriot citizenship for doing so in your opinion ?

Why not just deal with issues via normal legal process and consequence ? A mass murderer is not stripped of citizenship. They are subject to due process and judged according to the law and punished accordingly. Why not just pass a law making it an offence to 'recognize the trnc as a state'. Why strip people of their citizenship when that is not done even for mass serial murders ?

Maximus wrote:Actively campaign against the RoC and support the illegal occupation instead. - lose it.


Is than an and or and and or ? Should someone who just actively campaigns against the RoC lose their citizenship ? What does 'support' actually mean, specifically ? Is showing your ID card when entering the north supporting the trnc ?

Maximus wrote:Support Turkeys illegal actions in the RoC? - lose it,


What does support mean ?
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