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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:02 pm

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:CG, If you think people from other countries who would meet the 70 point threshold are going to come to the UK just to flip hamburgers, you are dreaming, not unless they were paid much more money than they were earning back home at around £25,000. If not, who is going to do these low paying jobs? Just answer the question please.



Binary... :roll:

Re-read my last post slowly and try to understand it if you can... :wink:

Your last post basically states that importing low skilled workers is bad for the UK. Let’s say that you are correct, are you then going to import high skill workers meeting the entry level 70 point to do the low skill jobs for less money than they were earning in their own country? Is this your plan?


Read it once more... S l o w l y this time and see if you can comprehend the meaning of my post... :wink:


I got it, you don’t want to answer the question, because you can’t. :roll:


I get that you can't see out of the box... At anything else than cheap labour or Armageddon... Shame... :roll:
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:09 pm

erolz66 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:One of the fascinating things about Remoaners, and those on the left generally is the binary thinking...


This lady seems pretty 'binary' about immigration to the UK



I guess by your logic she must be 'on the left' :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Let me remind you about binary choices, you seem to have forgotten... :wink:

It seems that you now think that multiple 'LOLZ' emoticons are some form of reasoned argument...?

Perhaps the lady has a point...?
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby Kikapu » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:16 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:CG, If you think people from other countries who would meet the 70 point threshold are going to come to the UK just to flip hamburgers, you are dreaming, not unless they were paid much more money than they were earning back home at around £25,000. If not, who is going to do these low paying jobs? Just answer the question please.



Binary... :roll:

Re-read my last post slowly and try to understand it if you can... :wink:

Your last post basically states that importing low skilled workers is bad for the UK. Let’s say that you are correct, are you then going to import high skill workers meeting the entry level 70 point to do the low skill jobs for less money than they were earning in their own country? Is this your plan?


Read it once more... S l o w l y this time and see if you can comprehend the meaning of my post... :wink:


I got it, you don’t want to answer the question, because you can’t. :roll:


I get that you can't see out of the box... At anything else than cheap labour or Armageddon... Shame... :roll:


Cheap Labour is what the Country wants. You can pay them much higher wages if you want as long as you are willing to pay higher price for your burger. I am not advocating to bring in cheap Labour into the UK, so the question still stands, as to who is going to do the low paid low skilled work if not those allowed to come in with their 70 points?

Switzerland allows high skilled workers as well as low skilled workers into the country, because both are needed, however, Switzerland has a “no wages dumping” laws, which means employers cannot pay less money to immigrants than they would pay the citizens. Is this the plan with the Brexiteers?
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:21 pm

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:CG, If you think people from other countries who would meet the 70 point threshold are going to come to the UK just to flip hamburgers, you are dreaming, not unless they were paid much more money than they were earning back home at around £25,000. If not, who is going to do these low paying jobs? Just answer the question please.



Binary... :roll:

Re-read my last post slowly and try to understand it if you can... :wink:

Your last post basically states that importing low skilled workers is bad for the UK. Let’s say that you are correct, are you then going to import high skill workers meeting the entry level 70 point to do the low skill jobs for less money than they were earning in their own country? Is this your plan?


Read it once more... S l o w l y this time and see if you can comprehend the meaning of my post... :wink:


I got it, you don’t want to answer the question, because you can’t. :roll:


I get that you can't see out of the box... At anything else than cheap labour or Armageddon... Shame... :roll:


Cheap Labour is what the Country wants. You can pay them much higher wages if you want as long as you are willing to pay higher price for your burger. I am not advocating to bring in cheap Labour into the UK, so the question still stands, as to who is going to do the low paid low skilled work if not those allowed to come in with their 70 points?

Switzerland allows high skilled workers as well as low skilled workers into the country, because both are needed, however, Switzerland has a “no wages dumping” laws, which means employers cannot pay less money to immigrants than they would pay the citizens. Is this the plan with the Brexiteers?


Binary... :roll:
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby erolz66 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:28 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:Let me remind you about binary choices, you seem to have forgotten...


Let me remind you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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cyprusgrump wrote:It seems that you now think that multiple 'LOLZ' emoticons are some form of reasoned argument...?


Says the man that has been using multiple 'LOLZ' emoticons in 96.73 % of all his posts here for the last 10 years plus to the person who has used them in less than 1% of his posts over ten years and is doing so now only as a response to the first person and only in replies to them :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Did they just take a head and shoulders shot of you for the entry for 'hypocrite' in the dictionary or was it full body :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Before you can think outside the box, you have to be able to think :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby Kikapu » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:38 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:CG, If you think people from other countries who would meet the 70 point threshold are going to come to the UK just to flip hamburgers, you are dreaming, not unless they were paid much more money than they were earning back home at around £25,000. If not, who is going to do these low paying jobs? Just answer the question please.



Binary... :roll:

Re-read my last post slowly and try to understand it if you can... :wink:

Your last post basically states that importing low skilled workers is bad for the UK. Let’s say that you are correct, are you then going to import high skill workers meeting the entry level 70 point to do the low skill jobs for less money than they were earning in their own country? Is this your plan?


Read it once more... S l o w l y this time and see if you can comprehend the meaning of my post... :wink:


I got it, you don’t want to answer the question, because you can’t. :roll:


I get that you can't see out of the box... At anything else than cheap labour or Armageddon... Shame... :roll:


Cheap Labour is what the Country wants. You can pay them much higher wages if you want as long as you are willing to pay higher price for your burger. I am not advocating to bring in cheap Labour into the UK, so the question still stands, as to who is going to do the low paid low skilled work if not those allowed to come in with their 70 points?

Switzerland allows high skilled workers as well as low skilled workers into the country, because both are needed, however, Switzerland has a “no wages dumping” laws, which means employers cannot pay less money to immigrants than they would pay the citizens. Is this the plan with the Brexiteers?


Binary... :roll:

Boring! :roll:
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby miltiades » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:46 pm

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Before you can think outside the box, you have to be able to think :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How can he think !! He thinks that shit comes from the top thats why he has the bucket at the ready :lol:
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:27 am

miltiades wrote:How can he think !! He thinks that shit comes from the top thats why he has the bucket at the ready :lol:


miltiades wrote:Now here is my prediction. Boris has a much chance of entering number 10 as I have. Jeremy Hunt will be the next PM


miltiades wrote:Bookies have the Clown odds at 2/9, where as Hunt at 9/2. I'm convinced that the 160 thousand Conservative members , mostly middle class professionals are not that daft surely. The bookies are taking bets on Boris winning, but who are mostly these punters? I suspect working class, the bookies are raking it in, bound to have a field day.
As days go by Boris will undoubtedly drop a clanged or two, it wont make a blind bit of difference to his followers, after all they voted "Leave" not much intellect there !!
I'm still convinced that Boris will not win and Hunt will be the new PM. May ...God help him. What a bloody mess !!


miltiades wrote:Bookies , it seems, are destined to make a killing on bets for the next UK PM. Boris the Clown now at 1/5 on while Hunt still at 9/2.
The thought of the Clown becoming the next UK PM sends shivers down my spine ! Has the UK really lost all sense of direction ? Is it inconceivable that such a man could be the next PM. I think NOT.


miltiades wrote:I see no viable reason as to why would Stg strengthen in the forthcoming months. I even believe that come Brexit day, January 31st 2020, the pound will be below 1.10 euro.
Time will tell....


Just sayin' :wink:
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:39 am

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:CG, If you think people from other countries who would meet the 70 point threshold are going to come to the UK just to flip hamburgers, you are dreaming, not unless they were paid much more money than they were earning back home at around £25,000. If not, who is going to do these low paying jobs? Just answer the question please.



Binary... :roll:

Re-read my last post slowly and try to understand it if you can... :wink:

Your last post basically states that importing low skilled workers is bad for the UK. Let’s say that you are correct, are you then going to import high skill workers meeting the entry level 70 point to do the low skill jobs for less money than they were earning in their own country? Is this your plan?


Read it once more... S l o w l y this time and see if you can comprehend the meaning of my post... :wink:


I got it, you don’t want to answer the question, because you can’t. :roll:


I get that you can't see out of the box... At anything else than cheap labour or Armageddon... Shame... :roll:


Cheap Labour is what the Country wants. You can pay them much higher wages if you want as long as you are willing to pay higher price for your burger. I am not advocating to bring in cheap Labour into the UK, so the question still stands, as to who is going to do the low paid low skilled work if not those allowed to come in with their 70 points?

Switzerland allows high skilled workers as well as low skilled workers into the country, because both are needed, however, Switzerland has a “no wages dumping” laws, which means employers cannot pay less money to immigrants than they would pay the citizens. Is this the plan with the Brexiteers?


Binary... :roll:

Boring! :roll:


You are boring, you've just repeated the same thing over and over... :roll:

Look here is the thing, we can test your hypothesis...

Either McDonald's will start selling burgers at £20 each and go out of business in the process (as their competitors find other ways to keep their labour costs down) or they won't.

I'm guessing they won't. :wink:

In fact we can already prove you are wrong as they don't sell £20 burgers elsewhere and introduce automation (self ordering is a good example) as labour costs have risen due to minimum wages. If wage rises (due to minimum wage regulations or lack of cheap imported labour) make burger flipping uneconomic they'll simply introduce burger flipping machines.

Cheap imported labour suppresses wages and stifles innovation. Simples. :wink:
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:45 am

CG, you are not answering the question. If the UK will only allow skilled workers into the country who will meet the 70 point level, who will do most of the low skilled work whom will not qualify to meet the 70 point entry level? Automation is not the answer in the areas of work we are talking about. If you have a shortage in Labour, then the cost of hiring will rise to the employer, which will then be passed on to the consumer.
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