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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:36 am

TRNC Presidential Election results 11th October 2020
BY KYRENIACATKIN ON OCTOBER 12, 2020 • ( LEAVE A COMMENT )
Supreme Committee of Elections has announced the results of the Presidential elections which were held in the TRNC on 11th October 2020. 7 independent candidates out of a total of 11 candidates ran in the Presidential elections.

Out of 198,957 registered voters 115,966 cast their votes in the elections, which saw a 58.21% voter turnout.

Since none of the 11 candidates received more than half of the valid votes, the second round of the election at which Ersin Tatar and Mustafa Akıncı will compete will be held next Sunday 18th October.

According to the order of candidates the number of votes and rates each candidate received are as follows :

Ersin Tatar: 35,872 – 32.34%
Tufan Erhürman: 24,075 – 21.71%
Erhan Arıklı: 5,999 – 5.41%
Fuat Çiner: 329 – 0.30%
Arif Salih Kırdağ: 282 – 0.25%
Ahmet Boran: 84 – 0.08%
Mustafa Ulaş: 69 – 0.06%
Alpan Uz: 155 – 0.14%
Kudret Özersay: 6,365 – 5.74%
Mustafa Akıncı: 33,058 – 29.80%
Serdar Denktaş: 4,627 – 4.17%

Source : TRNC Public Information Office

...it is not hard to predict that Akinci will win the second round.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Mustiejodu » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:28 pm

Maximus wrote:
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...if he is clear, will he stand with the Flag of Cyprus behind him? Despite "being" Turkish, or Maronite, Armenian, Latin, or Greek, is it possible to be a Cypriot too?



No, he doesn't demonstrate that now.

He gives what belongs to the RoC to Turkey and will become another "has been".

he is no different from his predecessor. I cant see what is so special about him because he is cut from the same cloth and reads the same script as those that went before him.


HE IS DEFINITELY NOT CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH. I REMEMBER HIM COMING TO LONDON 30 YEARS AGO MAKING A SPEACH ABOUT RESOLVING THE CYPRUS ISSUE AND FINDING A SOLUTION WITH OUR GC BROTHERS. IT WAS A COMMUNITY GATHERING EATING DRINKING ETC ETC. WE WERE SO OUTRAGED FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW WE STARTED THROWING WHATEVER WE HAD ON THE TABLE AT HIM. MY POINT IS HE IS PROBABLY THE ONLY GENUINE PERSON OUT OF EVERYONE ESPECIALLY YOUR LEADERS IN FACT IF YOU HAD MORE POLITICIANS LIKE HIM THE CYPRUS USSUES YOU WANT TO SOLVE WOULD HAVD BEEN SOLVED 30 YEARS AGO.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:45 pm

...without Akinci's clear representation, as a Cypriot, the question will remain: Turkish, or "Turkish".

The fact remains, about half the population that voted are Cypriots. Even in Turkey this is true; half the population remains, not "Turk".

Cypriots, to be more precise Turkish Cypriots, remain the biggest threat to this dogma, if they decide to "be" Cypriot, as Turcophones.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Mustiejodu » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:59 pm

I disagree totally with your view. It is up to both communities to have good will in solving the issues. By saying it is solely up to TC is passing the buck and moving all the responsibility and onus on TC. Moving to another situation but another country. What do you think is the solution to the problem of Israel’s expansionist acts taking more land from the Palestinians? Who do you think lies the responsibility to solve that problem the Israelis or the Palestinians??
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Mustiejodu » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:05 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...without Akinci's clear representation, as a Cypriot, the question will remain: Turkish, or "Turkish".

The fact remains, about half the population that voted are Cypriots. Even in Turkey this is true; half the population remains, not "Turk".

Cypriots, to be more precise Turkish Cypriots, remain the biggest threat to this dogma, if they decide to "be" Cypriot, as Turcophones.


Your wrong. GC equally Remain a threat, if they decide to be GC or GECIAN CYPRIOTS
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Mustiejodu » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:10 pm

I meant Greacian Cypriot
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:53 pm

...indeed, the Turkish Cypriots cannot do it alone. But, to get the support they need to act as Cypriots, they must decide "who" they are; Turkish, or "Turks".

Cypriots have been waiting, decades, for this realisation, that "Turks" and "Greeks" are no different in that they are not Cypriot, they are anathema to a Cypriot way.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:01 am

Look, even when you put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:17 am

...are you proud to be Australian Paphitis? Allow me to ask you, as a Greek, does "Greekness" matter more for you; what is a Citizen of the World?

painting pigs is just the thing i'm talking about: who would rather that Cypriots remain silent?

...let me guess, you won't stand under the Flag of Australia, being Greek that would be wrong; is that it?

...you better than anyone else should know what Bicomunal and Bizonal means, isn't Australia a BBF?

...actually, i understand what you say, at least on what it's based, Akinci does not give Cypriots Hope at the moment; this may change.

As i have said before, such would be the silent revolution, for "Turkishness", that dogma to fall in Turkey, around the Eastern Med., in Africa, and at its root in Cyprus.

...it is the Turkish Cypriot at the vanguard, and as Cypriots, Greek Cypriots, all Cypriots support them against hatefulness, this hatefulness as it grows.

Just for Cyprus; how is it that the notion of gatherings for such a notion, is one you cannot enjoy: anywhere, in Cyprus?
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:01 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...are you proud to be Australian Paphitis? Allow me to ask you, as a Greek, does "Greekness" matter more for you; what is a Citizen of the World?

painting pigs is just the thing i'm talking about: who would rather that Cypriots remain silent?

...let me guess, you won't stand under the Flag of Australia, being Greek that would be wrong; is that it?

...you better than anyone else should know what Bicomunal and Bizonal means, isn't Australia a BBF?

...actually, i understand what you say, at least on what it's based, Akinci does not give Cypriots Hope at the moment; this may change.

As i have said before, such would be the silent revolution, for "Turkishness", that dogma to fall in Turkey, around the Eastern Med., in Africa, and at its root in Cyprus.

...it is the Turkish Cypriot at the vanguard, and as Cypriots, Greek Cypriots, all Cypriots support them against hatefulness, this hatefulness as it grows.

Just for Cyprus; how is it that the notion of gatherings for such a notion, is one you cannot enjoy: anywhere, in Cyprus?


I’ve stood under the Flag of Australia many times, more than most. Had to raise it and the colours (ensign) on dozens of occasions.

No it’s not wrong to stand under the Flag of Australia. It is a friendly country to both Greece and Cyprus. If it wasn’t, then that would pose quite the dilemma for sure.

No Australia isn’t a BBF and no it doesn’t offer political rights according to race, religion, gender or anything else.

I don’t really understand what you mean by Greekness, Turkishness, Cypriotness or “Greekness”, “Turkishness” or “Cypriotness”

To try and answer your question...I am an Australian Citizen, and an Australian by birth, who also happens to be a Cypriot Citizen and a Cypriot by heritage. I am also a Greek in so far that I practice the Greek culture, speak Greek and am a baptised Orthodox Christian and actually do like Greece very much (leaving the politics aside). In other words,
I behave like a typical Australian, a typical Cypriot and typical Greek and like my heritage very much and would like to pass on that culture, heritage, and language to my Children so that they can enjoy everything about our culture that I have enjoyed.

I don’t have any time for Akinci or politics in the occupied zone. I would not waste my time. I genuinely feel sorry for any TCs caught up in it but in the end it is their own doing. Doesn’t matter what they want now. They are under Turkey. They have no say no matter how you want to dress it up with.

All that matters is what Turkey wants.
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