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Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:30 am

...i imagine Akinci will run for reelection, but it is not certain.

...i imagine the CTP has already support for their position from AKEL, and that Disy will follow if Akinci runs in the same spirit of "Cypriotism".

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/opinio ... rus-150001

...more news will surely follow.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:00 pm

...interestingly, it is hurriyet, that has published news (again) of Akinci's position with some substance.

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/incum ... ion-151790

“The establishment of equal, not a hierarchical, relationship between Turkey and Cyprus, is a factor that will strengthen the bonds of friendship and sisterhood,” Akıncı said.

“It is clear that it will not be possible to ensure the recognition of Turkish Cyprus in the visible future. Two separate independent sovereign states within the EU discourse also cannot be described as a possible formula in this respect,” he said.

Stating that the federal settlement is the most realistic solution model under the current conditions, Akıncı emphasized that “this [federal settlement] has become a necessity for the region.”

...if he is clear, will he stand with the Flag of Cyprus behind him? Despite "being" Turkish, or Maronite, Armenian, Latin, or Greek, is it possible to be a Cypriot too?

...and what if there are Cypriot Constituencies? Why not a Federal Government as well, where, instead of Persons, Citizens have representation as Individuals? Is this not a BBF in its purest and most ideal form? Indeed, is it not the model Turkey needs with its own Problem, never mind the Problem in Iraq, Iran, and Syria, (as well as Israel), speaking of Constituencies and Constitutional reform?
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Maximus » Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:47 pm

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...if he is clear, will he stand with the Flag of Cyprus behind him? Despite "being" Turkish, or Maronite, Armenian, Latin, or Greek, is it possible to be a Cypriot too?



No, he doesn't demonstrate that now.

He gives what belongs to the RoC to Turkey and will become another "has been".

he is no different from his predecessor. I cant see what is so special about him because he is cut from the same cloth and reads the same script as those that went before him.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:08 pm

...i am not so sure, and i am waiting for this election, to see.

There are more possibilities, what with the election of a Turkish Cypriot, representing Cypriots, as Cypriots. That is the point, reading carefully, his text, he is not against Cyprus, or Cypriots, but as such he will defend his position for a Constituency, one hopes, as a Turkish Cypriot, no "Turk", bicommunally speaking, and as a Cypriot.

...is it a lot to ask?
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:16 pm

...if he is clear, will he stand with the Flag of Cyprus behind him? Despite "being" Turkish, or Maronite, Armenian, Latin, or Greek, is it possible to be a Cypriot too?


...to correct myself,
i should have included: Filipino, Russian, Lebanese, British, and Chinese, as Cypriots; which also exist as Cypriots.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:16 am

...more news on the subject. Note, two Cypriots in the running.

https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/202 ... draws-near
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:43 am

[03] Turkey's sovereignty hurts Turkish Cypriots' sense of 'their home' the place they live in, says Turkish columnist
It is a fact that Turkey dominates the territories where Turkish Cypriots live today, no doubt, writes in his commentary on the Turkish news website T24 on Thursday (23.01.20, https://t24.com.tr/yazarlar/zeynel). -lule / kibrisli-turklerin-yurt-sevgisi-ve-kavgasi, 25301) Turkish journalist Zenel Lule, who commenting on MEP Niyazi Kizilyurek's report on the colonization of occupied Cyprus, its demographic change and demographic character writes, inter alia:
"It was such a coincidence that I also wrote an article this week about the changing demographic in Turkey and complained about those leaving Turkey for various reasons and that the foreigners who immigrated to Turkey completely changed their demographics. of our country.

Because he said the same thing, they all started attacking Niyazi Kizilyurek, who entered the AKEL Greek Cypriot party's ballot in the European elections and was elected last June. What of what Niyazi Kizilyurek said is wrong? It says:

The number of Turkish citizens coming to the TRNC has increased. These people were granted citizenship. This interferes with the Turkish Cypriot political will and the demographic structure of the community. '

Do we not say the same about those who come to Turkey and change the demographic structure of the country in the same way and are granted citizenship? Which of the things Kizilyurek said is wrong? Says that:

'Turkish-Cypriot community faces risk of integration into Turkey'.

I'm sure you will say 'we saved them'. Does this make you the owner of the country?

For example, in the meantime we are not thinking about how to ensure the integration of those who immigrated to Turkey? In addition, aren't there some who complain that it has almost changed the chemistry of the Turks by the fact that about 5 million people came and settled in Turkey within a very short time and caused reverse assimilation?

Where is Kizilyurek's words wrong? When will we realize that the Turkish Cypriot community is a very small minority on the island and when will we stop proclaiming 'traitors' to those who seek to get rid of this situation and report it out loud? [...]

The Turkish Cypriots may be living in their own country, but do they not use properties that are not their own and do not feel their temporary life mixed with endless emotions? Put yourself in their place. Show some empathy.

It is a fact that does not call into question the fact that Turkey dominates the geographical area in which they live. In fact, they are sometimes referred to as 'foodies'. The fact that an exogenous factor determines so much of their lives definitely hurts the sense that 'their home' is the place where they live. Meanwhile, in the eyes of those who leave Turkey and settle in the TRNC, the northern part of Cyprus is conquered territory. Turkish Cypriots are fighting for a state with the Greek Cypriots and for their homeland with Turkey and the Turks who settled on the island. That is why they are looking for the 'federal solution'. In my opinion, it doesn't take much empathy to understand these feelings.

http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/etkt/202 ... .etkt.html

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...enjoyed reading this.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:01 pm

Commenting on the possibility of a full military takeover by Turkey, Akıncı was quoted by the Guardian as saying the prospect of a Crimea-style annexation was "horrible."

https://ahvalnews.com/cyprus/turkeys-ru ... -interview



...note the subtle ignorance toward Cypriots, by a "Turk".

“The goal of Cypriot Turks is not to become a minority for the Greek part, or to be annexed by Turkey,” the statement said. “Our efforts are to achieve our respectable place in the world in equality, freedom and security, while preserving our authentic character and identity as the Cypriot Turkish people.”

Bahçeli had said it would have been more reasonable for the Turkish-Cypriot president to move to the Greek part of the divided island, were his disturbances over Turkey to continue.

https://ahvalnews.com/cyprus-turkey/tur ... ist-leader



...Cypriot Turk? Cypriot Turkish people? The difference is subtle.

...is Akinci representing Turkish Cypriots, a Cypriot first; time will tell.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:09 pm

...something more, on the same issue,

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ankar ... rds-151875

...also an interesting read.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Maximus » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:56 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
Commenting on the possibility of a full military takeover by Turkey, Akıncı was quoted by the Guardian as saying the prospect of a Crimea-style annexation was "horrible."

https://ahvalnews.com/cyprus/turkeys-ru ... -interview



...note the subtle ignorance toward Cypriots, by a "Turk".

“The goal of Cypriot Turks is not to become a minority for the Greek part, or to be annexed by Turkey,” the statement said. “Our efforts are to achieve our respectable place in the world in equality, freedom and security, while preserving our authentic character and identity as the Cypriot Turkish people.”

Bahçeli had said it would have been more reasonable for the Turkish-Cypriot president to move to the Greek part of the divided island, were his disturbances over Turkey to continue.

https://ahvalnews.com/cyprus-turkey/tur ... ist-leader



...Cypriot Turk? Cypriot Turkish people? The difference is subtle.

...is Akinci representing Turkish Cypriots, a Cypriot first; time will tell.


He represents separate Turks. A community of people that want to be independent in Cyprus. :roll:

He gets more credit than he is worthy of or is due as a "Cypriot" and unreasonable criticism from the regime in Turkey.

The writing is on the wall for him and the people he supposedly represents because he is incompatible in every direction.
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