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[Tim Drayton]

Forget the 1st quarter as it means nothing.

No wonder indoctrinees of the Bill Gates foundation-sponsored scare campaign want to forget the first quarter. It has been disastrous just about everywhere.

https://www.oecd.org/sdd/na/gdp-growth- ... 0-oecd.htm

[erolz66]

But a severe economic recession will take a heavy toll in lives. The economy and lives are connected.

And a heavy toll in lives can only lead to severe recession. Lives and the economy are connected.

You just totally ignore the point I and kiks made about how economic impacts can not and will not be see in qtr 1 figures just as you ignored the same point when you prematurely used the ONS figures to support your pre chosen position.

[erolz66]

Forget the 1st quarter as it means nothing.

No wonder indoctrinees of the Bill Gates foundation-sponsored scare campaign want to forget the first quarter. It has been disastrous just about everywhere.

https://www.oecd.org/sdd/na/gdp-growth- ... 0-oecd.htm

How many lives were lost because of the 2008 recession ? How many were lost within 3 months of Lehman Brothers going in to administration. These are unknowable numbers. IMO it is because they are unknowable that you prefer them to the known fact numbers we do have because unlike those they allow you to believe anything you want to believe with no proof one way or another possible.

[Tim Drayton]

If Sweden "messed up", Belgium did twice as bad given its per-capita mortality is twice that of Sweden's:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/

Yet, Belgium followed the diktat and imposed a lockdown. To what effect?

[Tim Drayton]

Forget the 1st quarter as it means nothing.

No wonder indoctrinees of the Bill Gates foundation-sponsored scare campaign want to forget the first quarter. It has been disastrous just about everywhere.

https://www.oecd.org/sdd/na/gdp-growth- ... 0-oecd.htm

How many lives were lost because of the 2008 recession ? How many were lost within 3 months of Lehman Brothers going in to administration. These are unknowable numbers. IMO it is because they are unknowable that you prefer them to the known fact numbers we do have because unlike those they allow you to believe anything you want to believe with no proof one way or another possible.

But proof is there in the form of the ONS figures for deaths from all causes, as you never tire of reminding us.

[Kikapu]

Forget the 1st quarter as it means nothing.

No wonder indoctrinees of the Bill Gates foundation-sponsored scare campaign want to forget the first quarter. It has been disastrous just about everywhere.

https://www.oecd.org/sdd/na/gdp-growth- ... 0-oecd.htm

Again, let’s wait for the 2nd quarter for Sweden.

[erolz66]

Forget the 1st quarter as it means nothing.

No wonder indoctrinees of the Bill Gates foundation-sponsored scare campaign want to forget the first quarter. It has been disastrous just about everywhere.

https://www.oecd.org/sdd/na/gdp-growth- ... 0-oecd.htm

Interesting to me that you quote GDP growth figures relative to last years numbers. Why not vs 5 year average ? Why not vs largest negatives seen in periodic contractions that occur naturally every 10 years or so ? Is the scale of the economic contraction a similar in scale to these once very 10 years or so events or is it similar in scale to a once in 50 or 100 year events ?

[erolz66]

If Sweden "messed up", Belgium did twice as bad given its per-capita mortality is twice that of Sweden's:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/

Yet, Belgium followed the diktat and imposed a lockdown. To what effect?

You can not compare deaths per million that are assigned to covid-19 as Belgium with specific intent said openly and honestly it was counting such deaths materially differently to most other countries. If you want to compare you have to use the number that is directly comparable and that is excess deaths all causes vs 5 year averages. Do that and the support for your argument evaporates.

[erolz66]

Forget the 1st quarter as it means nothing.

No wonder indoctrinees of the Bill Gates foundation-sponsored scare campaign want to forget the first quarter. It has been disastrous just about everywhere.

https://www.oecd.org/sdd/na/gdp-growth- ... 0-oecd.htm

How many lives were lost because of the 2008 recession ? How many were lost within 3 months of Lehman Brothers going in to administration. These are unknowable numbers. IMO it is because they are unknowable that you prefer them to the known fact numbers we do have because unlike those they allow you to believe anything you want to believe with no proof one way or another possible.

But proof is there in the form of the ONS figures for deaths from all causes, as you never tire of reminding us.

More to the point and despite your scare mongering exaggerating objective to make out GDP contraction directly leads to mass excess deaths such evidence is NOT seen in the ONS figures post 2008.

[erolz66]

Forget the 1st quarter as it means nothing.

No wonder indoctrinees of the Bill Gates foundation-sponsored scare campaign want to forget the first quarter. It has been disastrous just about everywhere.

https://www.oecd.org/sdd/na/gdp-growth- ... 0-oecd.htm

Again, let’s wait for the 2nd quarter for Sweden.

There is little need to wait to know what your personal reaction will be as more and more data becomes available. It will be exactly the same as it was with the ONS numbers. Whilst the number support your pre chosen position you will continue to present them as proof and as soon as they do not you will either just ignore them or call their validity in to question.