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Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:33 am

Food for thought from an article by Thomas S. Harrington, Professor of Hispanic Studies at Trinity College in Hartford (USA)?
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Is COVID-19 really an unprecedented threat when we consider, for example, the death tolls of Asian Flu of 1957 or the Hong Kong Flu of 1967-68?
We can really say, in light of the levels of mortality in many countries of the world in recent months, that, as has been said constantly since the beginning of the crisis, that COVID 19 is virus against which human bodies have no known defense, and before which, therefore, the classic solution of herd immunity has no validity?

Why should everything change with this epidemic? Epidemics have been a constant companion of human beings throughout their history on Earth. If the epidemics of 1918, 1957 and 1967-68 did not ‘change everything’, why should is be the case this time? Could it simply be that there are very large centers of power that, for reason of their own, might want “everything to change” this time around?

Do you really think it is a mere coincidence that, in a world where pharmaceutical companies move obscene amounts of money, and where the WHO and the GAVI depend almost entirely for funding on the money of a man obsessed with creating mass vaccination programs, the corporate media has systematically “forgotten” about the millennial human capacity to create defenses against new viruses? And that nearly all public discussions of solutions revolve — in true TINA (There Is No Alternative) fashion — exclusively around the development of a vaccine?

Do you really think that your media has allowed you to hear a wide range of expert opinions on how to respond to the epidemic?
There are quite a few scientists of great prestige around the world in the world who, from the beginning have made clear that they do not accept the notion that COVID represents an ‘unprecedented’ threat to human beings not that this virus, unlike the vast majority of others in world history, cannot be defeated by the herd immunity.

Do you find it strange that none of these people are regularly asked to appear in big media? Have you examined the possible links to, and possible financial dependency upon, WHO, GAVI and other pro-vaccine entities among those most frequently appearing in the media?

Do you think it is a mere coincidence that Sweden, which did not yield to the enormous pressure to curtail the basic freedoms of its citizens over COVID, and which has had per capita mortality levels below Italy, Spain , France, the UK and Belgium, has it been the constant target of criticism from prestigious media, starting with The New York Times?

Do you find it at all odd that the head of the anti-COVID effort in that country, Anders Tegnell, has been the subject of very aggressive interrogations in his contacts with journalists? While the walking epidemiological disasters, and cheerful destroyers of fundamental rights like Fernando Simón (Spain’s chief adviser on the epidemic), and other similar authoritarian arsonists (e.g., Governor Cuomo of New York State) are always treated with docile respect by the same scribes?

Does it seem normal to you that, in a dramatic reversal of historically predominant moral logic, the press harshly questions those who most want to preserve the social fabric and the existing rhythms of life while they lionize those who most seek to disrupt it?

Does it not seem a bit strange to you that the original pretext for cutting the in the fundamental rights of citizens — reducing the curve of infections so as not to overload the health system — disappeared suddenly and without a trace from our public discourse only to be replaced, as death rates were steadily falling, with the journalistic obsession with the number of ‘new cases’?

Does it seem at all odd that no one now remembers or talks about the fact that many experts, including Fauci and the WHO before June 12, spoke about on essential uselessness of mask-wearing in relation to a virus like this?

Do you find it strange that almost no one talks about the report by the BBC’s Deb Cohen report which says that the WHO changed the recommendation on masks in June under heavy political pressure?

Or that no one in American media will talk about how Sweden and the Netherlands, two countries known for the exceptional health care systems, have come out clearly and ambiguously against mandated mask-wearing in public?

Have you considered the possibility that the term ‘case’ may be a floating or empty sign par excellence, in the sense that the media seldom, if ever, provide us the contextual information we need to turn it into a meaningful indicator of the real dangers we face with the virus?

If you accept the premise, which as we said before is eminently debatable, that COVID-19 is not like any other virus in human history and therefore the only way we have to eradicate it is with a vaccine, then increase in “cases” is clearly bad news.

But what if, as many prestigious experts who have not been able to appear in the major media think, the concept of herd immunity is perfectly applicable to the phenomenon of COVID-19?

In this context, an increase in cases, combined with a steady decline in the number of deaths at the same time (the reality, in the vast majority of countries in the world today), is, in fact, very good news.

Don’t you find it strange that this possibility is not even mentioned in the media?

Beyond that, there is the indisputable fact that the vast number of those infected with COVID-19 are not in any mortal danger whatsoever.

That is not just my opinion. It is the opinion of Chris Whitty, Chief Medical Officer for England, Chief Medical Adviser to the UK Government, Chief Scientific Adviser at the Department of Health and Social Care (UK) and Head of the National Institute for Health Research (UK) who, on May 11th, said of the virus:

“The great majority of the people will not die from it….. Most people, uh well, a significant proportion of people, will not get this virus at all at any point in the epidemic which is going to go on for a long period of time.
Of those that do, some of them will get the virus without even knowing it, they will have a virus with no symptoms at all, asymptomatic carriage. Of those that get symptoms, the great majority, probably 80 per cent, will have mild or moderate disease. It might be bad enough for them to go to bed for a few days, not bad enough for them to go to the doctor.
An unfortunate minority will have to go as far as hospital. The majority of them will just need oxygen and then leave hospital. And then a minority of those will have to go to severe and critical care. And some of those, sadly, will die. But that’s a minority, one percent, or possibly even less than one percent overall.
And even in the highest risk group, this is significantly less than 20 percent, i.e. the great majority of the people, even the very highest groups, if they catch this virus will not die. And I really wanted to make that point really clearly.”

https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/12/con ... he-people/
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:51 am

A beautiful defence of sanity in a mad world?

https://youtu.be/xz0C1Dak94M
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:18 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:A beautiful defence of sanity in a mad world?

https://youtu.be/xz0C1Dak94M


a minute in and all I was seeing was sophistry
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:43 pm



...food for thought.

Facts, from COVID's beginning; actually, is it the White House, and not China that has manipulated the news?

...informative content but like anything on this topic worth watching, your attention is needed.

...was the international Public Health Emergency incorrectly, or deliberately delayed by WHO?

This video discusses the issue.

...did China deserve the praise WHO gave them?

...and face masks?

...Taiwan?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:12 am

Where's Guido the Einstein? :?

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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:11 pm

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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:58 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:A beautiful defence of sanity in a mad world?

https://youtu.be/xz0C1Dak94M


a minute in and all I was seeing was somebody that disagreed with my position so I stopped listening...


There, fixed that for you ErLOLZ... :lol:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:48 am

cyprusgrump Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:05 pm wrote:
erolz66 wrote:To recap.

It has already been shown that your claim of the 25 June was totally and utterly wrong.
I have given my prediction on global covid daily deaths by 13th September (4k or more) and you have given yours (3000ish)
I have given my prediction on global confirmed positives by 13th September (26 million or more). You are too pussy to give yours.
I have given my prediction on year end excess deaths in ONS stats (40k or more). You are too pussy to give yours.



PS this is a 'keeper' like CoCo's predictions... I completely guarantee this will come back to haunt you... :wink:


Completely guarantee my arse.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:27 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:A beautiful defence of sanity in a mad world?

https://youtu.be/xz0C1Dak94M


a minute in and all I was seeing was somebody that disagreed with my position so I stopped listening...

There, fixed that for you ErLOLZ... :lol:

Make no mistake, foolish and naïve Guido...

“The lasting misery of coronavirus long-haulers”

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02598-6
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Londonrake » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:45 pm

Got our annual flu jabs today. It seemed a sensible precaution. One threat at a time and all that.
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