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[Tim Drayton]

I wonder if supporters of the "USA did it" hypothesis could address the question of cui bono. Given that the global economic collapse has hit many parts of the world, including the West, far worse than China, how was this to the USA's benefit?

The idea was to wreck China not the rest of the world, which explains why between Oct and Dec 2019 all medical tests/reports coming out of China were speaking of a racially discriminating virus. I did post links on this back then.

I would be interested in seeing some credible sources on that "racially discriminating virus" especially since race is a social construct and has no physical counterpart in the natural world. Anyhow, the USA is a very racially diverse place, and there are some 20 million US citizens of Asian origin ( https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... n-the-u-s/ ) so even if you could create a virus that only infects Asians, it would still be bound to infect about 10% of the US population. There would also be evidence by now that people of Asian origin in the US were being affected disproportionately by the virus/disease, if it exists.

Apart from that, you are arguing that the US deep state is so stupid and incompetent as to be unable to realize that if you release a highly contagious virus in one part of the world it will pretty soon spread everywhere. Is that right?

[Tim Drayton]

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But, it doesn’t necessarily mean that Bezos did it or could’ve pulled it off. (the virus)

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I wish I could understand why this cognitive dissonance is creeping in.

I am not arguing that Bezos has got richer and this means he single-handedly staged the virus hoax.

What I am doing is rebutting your earlier argument that the global ruling class could not have knowingly and willingly crashed the world economy because it would not be to their benefit. I have showed that the superrich have indeed already benefited.

[Tim Drayton]

The following words (which were secretly recorded), spoken by Henry Kissinger at a Bilderberg meeting in Evian, France on May 21, 1992 help to show how powerful forces in the world contemplate manipulating the masses:

“Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.”

https://anonymousworldwide.com/2020/03/ ... kissinger/

According to this formula, to control the masses, you need a “threat … whether real or promulgated, that threatens our very existence” and then “individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being.”

Surely this is the formula being played out under the hysteria over a disease that at worst is as deadly as the flu?

[Londonrake]

This is an interesting read.

I'm stuck in a little hospital room at the moment. Tied to a bed and connected to all these machines. If Skynet takes over now I'm fucked.

[Get Real!]

I would be interested in seeing some credible sources on that "racially discriminating virus" especially since race is a social construct and has no physical counterpart in the natural world. Anyhow, the USA is a very racially diverse place, and there are some 20 million US citizens of Asian origin ( https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... n-the-u-s/ ) so even if you could create a virus that only infects Asians, it would still be bound to infect about 10% of the US population. There would also be evidence by now that people of Asian origin in the US were being affected disproportionately by the virus/disease, if it exists.

Apart from that, you are arguing that the US deep state is so stupid and incompetent as to be unable to realize that if you release a highly contagious virus in one part of the world it will pretty soon spread everywhere. Is that right?

The bat virus was custom modified in a lab to suit the US’ needs.

It had to be able to infect humans (jump from bat to humans not naturally possible) in which they succeeded…

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NB: Article is now locked but I did save an image of some of it back then.

Also...

https://www.unz.com/wwebb/bats-gene-edi ... -outbreak/

It had to be able to discriminate races which they *thought* they had accomplished…

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/chines ... ating-race

…but it didn’t last.

And I don’t know what else they aimed for.

[Kikapu]

According to this formula, to control the masses, you need a “threat … whether real or promulgated, that threatens our very existence” and then “individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being.”

Surely this is the formula being played out under the hysteria over a disease that at worst is as deadly as the flu?

Yes Tim, but in order for the world leaders to “control the masses” by taking our rights away because of the “threat”, which is no worse than the flu as some claim, then the “threat” must remain in place in perpetuity in order to keep the sheep in line without rights. And what would the world leaders gain by doing that since the world economy would just get worse and worse until it will crumble to nothing. If there is no economy to speak of, then there would be no rich people left because soon they won’t have their billions either. Then you will have massive unemployment with riots and destruction where the rule of law cannot be maintained, to which anyone who might still have any kind of wealth and the “good life” would become victims to the masses.

Is the above scenario what the world leaders really want?

[Get Real!]

According to this formula, to control the masses, you need a “threat … whether real or promulgated, that threatens our very existence” and then “individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being.”

Surely this is the formula being played out under the hysteria over a disease that at worst is as deadly as the flu?

Yes Tim, but in order for the world leaders to “control the masses” by taking our rights away because of the “threat”, which is no worse than the flu as some claim, then the “threat” must remain in place in perpetuity in order to keep the sheep in line without rights. And what would the world leaders gain by doing that since the world economy would just get worse and worse until it will crumble to nothing. If there is no economy to speak of, then there would be no rich people left because soon they won’t have their billions either. Then you will have massive unemployment with riots and destruction where the rule of law cannot be maintained, to which anyone who might still have any kind of wealth and the “good life” would become victims to the masses.

Is the above scenario what the world leaders really want?

Also… we’ve spent the last century going on and on about capitalism being so great and winning over other “isms”, only to tear it down?

[Kikapu]

According to this formula, to control the masses, you need a “threat … whether real or promulgated, that threatens our very existence” and then “individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being.”

Surely this is the formula being played out under the hysteria over a disease that at worst is as deadly as the flu?

Yes Tim, but in order for the world leaders to “control the masses” by taking our rights away because of the “threat”, which is no worse than the flu as some claim, then the “threat” must remain in place in perpetuity in order to keep the sheep in line without rights. And what would the world leaders gain by doing that since the world economy would just get worse and worse until it will crumble to nothing. If there is no economy to speak of, then there would be no rich people left because soon they won’t have their billions either. Then you will have massive unemployment with riots and destruction where the rule of law cannot be maintained, to which anyone who might still have any kind of wealth and the “good life” would become victims to the masses.

Is the above scenario what the world leaders really want?

Also… we’ve spent the last century going on and on about capitalism being so great and winning over other “isms”, only to tear it down?

Maybe somebody forgot the rules.

[Paphitis]

According to this formula, to control the masses, you need a “threat … whether real or promulgated, that threatens our very existence” and then “individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being.”

Surely this is the formula being played out under the hysteria over a disease that at worst is as deadly as the flu?

Yes Tim, but in order for the world leaders to “control the masses” by taking our rights away because of the “threat”, which is no worse than the flu as some claim, then the “threat” must remain in place in perpetuity in order to keep the sheep in line without rights. And what would the world leaders gain by doing that since the world economy would just get worse and worse until it will crumble to nothing. If there is no economy to speak of, then there would be no rich people left because soon they won’t have their billions either. Then you will have massive unemployment with riots and destruction where the rule of law cannot be maintained, to which anyone who might still have any kind of wealth and the “good life” would become victims to the masses.

Is the above scenario what the world leaders really want?

Easily done with a third, fourth, fifth and sixth wave etc.

And society has capitulated so much now, that all is needed is a mild virus like COVID in the future to keep locking the globe down until countries are irreversibly on their knees and at the mercy of the IMF.

The precedence has been set.

[MR-from-NG]

According to this formula, to control the masses, you need a “threat … whether real or promulgated, that threatens our very existence” and then “individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being.”

Surely this is the formula being played out under the hysteria over a disease that at worst is as deadly as the flu?

Yes Tim, but in order for the world leaders to “control the masses” by taking our rights away because of the “threat”, which is no worse than the flu as some claim, then the “threat” must remain in place in perpetuity in order to keep the sheep in line without rights. And what would the world leaders gain by doing that since the world economy would just get worse and worse until it will crumble to nothing. If there is no economy to speak of, then there would be no rich people left because soon they won’t have their billions either. Then you will have massive unemployment with riots and destruction where the rule of law cannot be maintained, to which anyone who might still have any kind of wealth and the “good life” would become victims to the masses.

Is the above scenario what the world leaders really want?

Easily done with a third, fourth, fifth and sixth wave etc.

And society has capitulated so much now, that all is needed is a mild virus like COVID in the future to keep locking the globe down until countries are irreversibly on their knees and at the mercy of the IMF.

The precedence has been set.

That would be "PRESIDENT" has been set according to your lunatic POTUS