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[Tim Drayton]

... More testing does not make more positive Covid cases, but instead, it discovers more positive Covid cases which are already there...

Yes, this is perfectly true as long as you don't put these results into a hysterical looking graph which implies that case numbers are on the rise when they aren't. Let's say the tests in use, which in fact are so unreliable as to be meaningless, will give a "positive" whether false or not in one out of 1000 tests. So, in a city of one million, if you test everyone you will get 1000 positives. Let's say in one week you test 10,000 people. You will get ten positives, but there will be another 990 so-called cases out there, if you accept the validity of these tests, that went undetected because those people were not tested. Next week you test 20,000 people and you wil get twenty positives, but there are another 980 so-called cases out there that were not picked up. In the third week, you test 30,000 people and get thirty positives. There are still another 970 so-called cases out there that would have been detected if you had tested the whole population. You could put these figures together and create the impression that cases are rising fast - from 10 to 20 and then 30, when the so-called Covid cases that are out there are constant at 1000. A totally false narrative is being constructed.

[Tim Drayton]

A letter from a UK general practitioner:

The Year the NHS Failed the People of Britain
https://lockdownsceptics.org/letter-from-a-gp/

[Tim Drayton]

Is the 'cure' worse than Covid?

asks Prof Angus Dalgleish* in the following article:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... lives.html

Just a little taster:

“I view the official Covid strategy with mounting alarm. As our nation stares into the abyss of unprecedented recession and social dislocation, the supposed cure is indeed turning out to be far worse than the disease.”

Is it my imagination, or are more and more healthcare professionals speaking out?

*Angus Dalgleish qualified in medicine from University College London and trained in internal medicine and medical oncology in Brisbane and Sydney. He did his MD with Professor Robin Weiss at the ICR before becoming a Senior Clinical Fellow at the MRC Clinical Research Centre. Since 1992 he has been Professor of Oncology at St. George’s University of London. He has over 370 publications and has co-authored 5 books and been an editorial member of many oncology and immunology journals.

[Tim Drayton]

For those dismissive of the idea that covid is being used as the pretext for a “great reset” planned by powerful global forces, it is worth noting the existence of the following book, written by World Economic Forum Founder and Executive Chairman Klaus Schwab and Thierry Malleret, Co-Founder of Monthly Barometer.



The Amazon review:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/2940631123

A highly insightful article that analyses in great detail the plans being promoted by executive chairman of the World Economic Forum and co-author of the above book, Klaus Schwab, whom it calls “this highly influential figure, at the centre of the new global order currently being established”:

https://winteroak.org.uk/2020/10/05/kla ... ist-reset/

One of its conclusions:

Their transhumanist vision is repulsive to nearly everyone outside of their little circle and they do not have consent for the technocratic dictatorship they are trying to impose on us.

That, after all, is why they have had to go to such lengths to force it upon us under the false flag of fighting a virus. They understood that without the “emergency” justification, we were never going to go along with their warped scheme.

[repulsewarrior]

...more on this virus; think mucus.



...wearing masks, washing hands, and distancing, remain the best tools we have collectively as Civil people, and for ourselves, in any case.

[Paphitis]

The Democrats spent the last 4 years contesting the 2016 results.

No. That is called campaigning for the 2020 elections.

Come on Kikapu! You know that isn’t true.

No POTUS in the history of the US had been vilified and persecuted as much as this one. Everything from impeachment’s, false accusations, smearing with allegations ranging from the serious right down to how he looks, talks, and his mannerisms. No POTUS has ever had to tolerate as much as Trump, not even Nixon who really did break the law.

The Democrats never accepted the 2016 results because they thought it was the election they couldn’t lose.

Even the campaign for 2020 just seems that Trump is all over it as a campaign master with Biden and Camela clearly out of their depth.

The way things are going, Prince will be POTUS for the 8 years after Trump and then after that it will be Trump Jr as POTUS for 8 years. Can you imagine the salt?

Bill Clinton was vilified by the Republicans for 8 years, far far more than Trump.

At least Trump deserved most what he got. Clinton did not.

Bill Clinton vilified I mean come on.

They vilified him a little because he got a blow job from his intern.

Can you imagine impeaching a sitting President for “lying” about sex which is what the Republicans did, and here you have Trump admitting for grabbing women’s pussies as well as paying off call girls to keep quiet.

The GOP cunts went after Clinton on Whitewater, Paula Jones, Vince Foster’s suicide and on a on.

Oh come off it! Grabbing women in the you know what, especially if it’s consensual really ain’t an issue.

Clinton however got a blow job. No big deal really. Hardly think it’s a criminal matter if it’s consentual. But from memory, didn’t Monica complain? Which puts it in a different category towards abuse.

Look, Clinton is a sleazy little bugger. I wouldn’t like to be in his shoes either because he may have liked them very young on Orgy island. And the investigations have opened once again.

I hear he is good mates with Prince Andrew too. Must have rubbed shoulders a lot.

That’s the thing, it was not consensual most of the pussy grabbings Trump did. He was running the beauty contest and he would just go into the ladies dressing rooms at will.

It was consensual with Monica. Paula Jones claimed it was not when Bill was governor in Arkansas, which she sued him and won for sexual harassment.

Wasn’t Trump and Andrew together at times when the underage boinking was going at at Epstein’s parties?

They are free to go after Trump then if they are claiming it wasn’t consensual. Maybe Trump paid them off which in my book is “making an amends” to a loss suffered. Obviously to the satisfaction of those involved. So it’s over with.

I don’t know if Bill and Andrew we’re together or not. Or what the did. The allegations against Andrew have placed him in a lot of pressure. There maybe allegations against Bill as well. I’m not up to date with it.

I’m just glad that the investigation continues and hope sees it through until we know all the facts and that those prosecutable are prosecuted,

[Paphitis]

...and the COVID; it is one thing to lie about your personal life, fact is, Trump lied about this threat to the public and that i think is something else.

I think Trump has even lied about having the Coronavirus himself. He wanted to project himself as a Super Human, who has defeated the virus in just few days, that he is a godsend. What a cunt!

Or he did get it. Not very hard to believe as his campaign has been identified as a cluster now.

His grand son also got it just today. Btw, you don’t need to be superhuman to survive it. 99.63 percent or 99.83 percent of carriers will survive. Depending on which figure you want to believe.

It’s not as if you will drop like a fly if you get it, but judging by the over reaction you would believe it is Armageddon.

[Paphitis]

Well it looks like WHO has done a back flip. Better late than never.

They concede COVID isn’t the lethal monster they thought it was and they no longer recommend lock downs.

But I guarantee you that the governments (such as Dan Andrews) who would always cite WHO advice will ignore the latest WHO recommendations and continue to claim lick downs are imperative for public safety.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavir ... 7731c3da74

According to that article, Dr. David Nabarro from the WHO says:

“Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer.”

Yep, it’s always the poorest and most vulnerable who will suffer the most,

[Kikapu]

... More testing does not make more positive Covid cases, but instead, it discovers more positive Covid cases which are already there...

Yes, this is perfectly true as long as you don't put these results into a hysterical looking graph which implies that case numbers are on the rise when they aren't. Let's say the tests in use, which in fact are so unreliable as to be meaningless, will give a "positive" whether false or not in one out of 1000 tests. So, in a city of one million, if you test everyone you will get 1000 positives. Let's say in one week you test 10,000 people. You will get ten positives, but there will be another 990 so-called cases out there, if you accept the validity of these tests, that went undetected because those people were not tested. Next week you test 20,000 people and you wil get twenty positives, but there are another 980 so-called cases out there that were not picked up. In the third week, you test 30,000 people and get thirty positives. There are still another 970 so-called cases out there that would have been detected if you had tested the whole population. You could put these figures together and create the impression that cases are rising fast - from 10 to 20 and then 30, when the so-called Covid cases that are out there are constant at 1000. A totally false narrative is being constructed.

Yes Tim, your explanation is clear, however, I think we have already reached the peak in the number of testing people in most of the countries by now and lately, there has been a huge spike in the number of positive Covid cases, as well as spike in the positive Covid percentages without increasing the testing numbers. This clearly shows that we are heading for a major second wave, which will be greater than the first as we enter winter in the northern hemisphere. The increased numbers in positive cases are very clear.

[Paphitis]

... More testing does not make more positive Covid cases, but instead, it discovers more positive Covid cases which are already there...

Yes, this is perfectly true as long as you don't put these results into a hysterical looking graph which implies that case numbers are on the rise when they aren't. Let's say the tests in use, which in fact are so unreliable as to be meaningless, will give a "positive" whether false or not in one out of 1000 tests. So, in a city of one million, if you test everyone you will get 1000 positives. Let's say in one week you test 10,000 people. You will get ten positives, but there will be another 990 so-called cases out there, if you accept the validity of these tests, that went undetected because those people were not tested. Next week you test 20,000 people and you wil get twenty positives, but there are another 980 so-called cases out there that were not picked up. In the third week, you test 30,000 people and get thirty positives. There are still another 970 so-called cases out there that would have been detected if you had tested the whole population. You could put these figures together and create the impression that cases are rising fast - from 10 to 20 and then 30, when the so-called Covid cases that are out there are constant at 1000. A totally false narrative is being constructed.

Yes Tim, your explanation is clear, however, I think we have already reached the peak in the number of testing people in most of the countries by now and lately, there has been a huge spike in the number of positive Covid cases, as well as spike in the positive Covid percentages without increasing the testing numbers. This clearly shows that we are heading for a major second wave, which will be greater than the first as we enter winter in the northern hemisphere. The increased numbers in positive cases are very clear.

That’s not true. In Australia they have only done 8.5 million tests and some people get tested 2, 3, 4 or more times.

So we are not even close to peak testing.

And further, you mention a big spike in COVID cases but don’t mention the steep decline in death ratio...if we have record numbers of COVID we should also have record numbers in death but that isn’t the case which is a good thing because that can only mean COVID is not that lethal as originally thought.