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[Londonrake]

That’s just how I imagined Erolz. The villain in a James Bond movie. (sorry about the smileys )

[Kikapu]

That’s just how I imagined Erolz. The villain in a James Bond movie. (sorry about the smileys )

So which villain in James Bond films would you most associate Erol with?

[Londonrake]

That’s just how I imagined Erolz. The villain in a James Bond movie. (sorry about the smileys )

So which villain in James Bond films would you most associate Erol with?

Obvious. Doctor NO, NO, NO!

[Tim Drayton]

Quite... There seems to be no distinction in the press between those that die with the disease and those that actually die from it.

I don't believe there's much need to split. Even if you are 90 with no more than 6-12 months expected life time and suddenly have your lungs fill with this gore and die in less than one week, isn't it quite obvious that the cause of death is the Corona virus?

Possibly but is it not also the case that if you die of a heart attack, dementia, old age, et al and you have the virus, cause of death tends to be recorded as Corona?

There was a recent case of a 21-year-old woman who died of a heart attack in Slough who was deemed by the coronor to have died of covid-19 because somebody said she had had a cough!

[Tim Drayton]

Quite... There seems to be no distinction in the press between those that die with the disease and those that actually die from it.

I don't believe there's much need to split. Even if you are 90 with no more than 6-12 months expected life time and suddenly have your lungs fill with this gore and die in less than one week, isn't it quite obvious that the cause of death is the Corona virus?

But that isn't what is happening...

People are dying of other illnesses and being tested post mortem to discover they had the virus.

Sure, there will be some that contract it and die of it but my understanding is that many in the stats just happen to die with it...

A comparison of the numbers that would normally die every day/month would seem to confirm this.

It will come to the point where somebody will fall from the top of a skyscraper and be killed and then, if a postmortem shows that person to have the dreaded virus in them, this will chalked up as yet another covid-19 death!

Yes, apparently even the weekly death statistics in Italy show fewer people dying in recent weeks in the country than in the corresponding weeks of last year. Yet if we were to believe the media hype, people are dropping like flies in Italy.

[Tim Drayton]

Do we definitively know that the health care systems in places like Italy are overloaded. Yes we do. Do we know that such overloaded systems will lead to deaths of people both with corona virus and those without it that would not have occurred if the health systems were not overloaded. Yes we do. Do we know that mortality rates, over a year, over 5 years , over 10 years have been significantly changed because of corona virus. No we do not definitively know this yet.

If the media creates an atmosphere of total panic and hysteria about this novel coronavirus - and coronaviruses have been infecting humans and giving them colds and the flu for milenia and keep mutating as people develop immunity to the old ones so that new strains are constantly doing the rounds (I recommend people seek out the explanations given by Prof. Wolfgang Wodarg about this) - so that everyone with the slightest cold and flu systems rushes in panic to hospitals where staff then diagnose them as having covid-19 purely based on symptoms, which are those of the flu, and put them in intensive care, then, yes, the health system will become overwhelmed.

[Kikapu]

That’s just how I imagined Erolz. The villain in a James Bond movie. (sorry about the smileys )

So which villain in James Bond films would you most associate Erol with?

Obvious. Doctor NO, NO, NO!

I would have said “Goldfinger”, because of his passion for metal commodities!

[erolz66]

Do we definitively know that the health care systems in places like Italy are overloaded. Yes we do. Do we know that such overloaded systems will lead to deaths of people both with corona virus and those without it that would not have occurred if the health systems were not overloaded. Yes we do. Do we know that mortality rates, over a year, over 5 years , over 10 years have been significantly changed because of corona virus. No we do not definitively know this yet.

If the media creates an atmosphere of total panic and hysteria about this novel coronavirus - and coronaviruses have been infecting humans and giving them colds and the flu for milenia and keep mutating as people develop immunity to the old ones so that new strains are constantly doing the rounds (I recommend people seek out the explanations given by Prof. Wolfgang Wodarg about this) - so that everyone with the slightest cold and flu systems rushes in panic to hospitals where staff then diagnose them as having covid-19 purely based on symptoms, which are those of the flu, and put them in intensive care, then, yes, the health system will become overwhelmed.

I think you are making some valid points. However to me overplaying the seriousness of this virus is little different from underplaying it. The idea that the only reason hospitals in places like Italy and New York are overloaded is that people are being placed in intensive care when there is no real need for them to be there does not explain why bodies are accumulating in ways not seen before. People are dying in those hospitals at daily rates not seen before the outbreak of this new virus.

[erolz66]

That’s just how I imagined Erolz. The villain in a James Bond movie. (sorry about the smileys )

So which villain in James Bond films would you most associate Erol with?

Obvious. Doctor NO, NO, NO!

I would have said “Goldfinger”, because of his passion for metal commodities!

I guess my third nipple is not very clear on that photo

[Kikapu]

Do we definitively know that the health care systems in places like Italy are overloaded. Yes we do. Do we know that such overloaded systems will lead to deaths of people both with corona virus and those without it that would not have occurred if the health systems were not overloaded. Yes we do. Do we know that mortality rates, over a year, over 5 years , over 10 years have been significantly changed because of corona virus. No we do not definitively know this yet.

If the media creates an atmosphere of total panic and hysteria about this novel coronavirus - and coronaviruses have been infecting humans and giving them colds and the flu for milenia and keep mutating as people develop immunity to the old ones so that new strains are constantly doing the rounds (I recommend people seek out the explanations given by Prof. Wolfgang Wodarg about this) - so that everyone with the slightest cold and flu systems rushes in panic to hospitals where staff then diagnose them as having covid-19 purely based on symptoms, which are those of the flu, and put them in intensive care, then, yes, the health system will become overwhelmed.

The fact that hospitals all over the world all of a sudden running out of respirators and ICU beds because rapid rise in people with breathing problems, because the Coronavirus is destroying the lung cells, must say something the reasons being the Coronvirus and not because of so called hysteria created by the media. This shit must be real and must be protected from, and right now it seems isolating people from others is the order of the day, but with no guarantees that it would work.