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Postby Londonrake » Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:14 pm

And yet another outspoken critic of Vladimir Putin falls prey to a poisoning:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/ ... 14728.html

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Re: Russia denies

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:29 pm

Londonrake wrote:And yet another outspoken critic of Vladimir Putin falls prey to a poisoning:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/ ... 14728.html

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Re: Russia denies

Postby Londonrake » Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:29 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:And yet another outspoken critic of Vladimir Putin falls prey to a poisoning:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/ ... 14728.html

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I truly hope so. For reasons, which still escape me, he paid what I personally thought was a high price in order to continue posting in this forum. Posts which - if you look (try the Beirut thread) consist mainly of throwing insults at you. :?

What a pity. :(
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Re: Russia denies

Postby Paphitis » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:24 am

Londonrake wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:And yet another outspoken critic of Vladimir Putin falls prey to a poisoning:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/ ... 14728.html

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Russia's troll factory spokesperson will be with you in a few moments!


I truly hope so. For reasons, which still escape me, he paid what I personally thought was a high price in order to continue posting in this forum. Posts which - if you look (try the Beirut thread) consist mainly of throwing insults at you. :?

What a pity. :(


I always try and avoid throwing insults as much as I can. Have been the odd occasion where I have but that is always just return fire. I’m never first though and it takes a lot for me to do it.

It really is sad when people fly off the handle like that.

He needs to take time and smell the roses. Same with loose cannon Miltiades.
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Re: Russia denies

Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:47 am

Londonrake wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:And yet another outspoken critic of Vladimir Putin falls prey to a poisoning:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/ ... 14728.html

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Russia's troll factory spokesperson will be with you in a few moments!


I truly hope so. For reasons, which still escape me, he paid what I personally thought was a high price in order to continue posting in this forum.

What a pity. :(

What are you talking about, LR? :?
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Re: Russia denies

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:59 pm

In just a normal Google search every MSM news outlet used the term “….. suspected ‘poisoning’!” The poisoning aspect was apparently being pushed by Navalny’s spokesperson and his team. Later reports have a different probability ……….. the suspected ‘poisoning’ scenario has been dropped.

Doctor at state-run hospital claims "no poisons" found in Russian opposition leader.

Alexander Murakhovsky, the senior doctor at the hospital, said later in a video statement the preliminary diagnosis was that Navalny had suffered a "a sudden drop in blood sugar" caused by an unspecified "metabolic disorder," according to Russia's RIA Novosti news agency.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alexei-navalny-russian-opposition-leader-not-poisoned-hospital-claims-vladimir-putin/


Our late daughter had an attack like this whilst at University, ended up in hospital, recovered from the coma, promptly discharged herself from hospital without even telling her mother and ended up crashing her car. But I don't think the Russians were behind it. :roll:

“Hypoglycemia, also known as low blood sugar, is a fall in blood sugar to levels below normal. This may result in a variety of symptoms including clumsiness, trouble talking, confusion, loss of consciousness, seizures or death. A feeling of hunger, sweating, shakiness and weakness may also be present.” By personal experience the victim can also suffer hallucinations and makes a lot of funny noises.

Later still ........

Alexei Navalny: Russia says chemical found in Putin critic's body - but insists it could be from 'plastic cup'

Russia's Ministry of Internal Affairs told the agency that since the substance they claim was present is commonly used to increase plasticity in products, "it is possible that it could appear in surface washings through the contact of Alexei Navalny with similar objects, for example, through a plastic cup".

Studies have previously shown that the chemical officials were referring to - 2-ethylhexyl diphenyl phosphate - does not have a strong toxic effect on humans.

https://news.sky.com/story/doctors-ban-navalny-being-transported-abroad-amid-claim-of-kremlin-pressure-12053503


So who immediately leaps to the conclusion that Putin was probably responsible then? :roll: :oops:

But of course whatever happens ........ the Russians will be held responsible! If he recovers the Russians will kill him any way and say sorry. His team will blame Russia ...... so even if they don’t have clue what kills him or he dies from this low blood sugar, or on a medivac flight to or in a German clinic ......... Putin will be charged with responsibility.

Does anyone know if they looked for Novichok or Polonium or even COVID 19? :roll:

Those Russians are so stupid ..... they know anyone who dies who is an opponent or critic of Putin, it will be Putin that gets the blame whether he was involved or not. Why don’t they just send in a couple of uniformed guys and shoot them! :?:
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Re: Russia denies

Postby Londonrake » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:38 pm

So what does it mean to be an "opposition" politician in Putin's Russia? A.k.a a "threat".

Firstly, like Navalny, your popularity is confined to the streets, word of mouth and whatever Social Media you can use that circumvents the Russian state blocks. Access to the entirety of state media is out of the question.

In his case he first denounced Putin's regime as "a party of crooks and thieves". Not as imaginative but much like Litvinenko's (a member of Putin's inner circle at one stage) expression a "Mafia state". We all know what happened to him.

Putin has banned the public use of Navalyny's name.

He was jailed on trumped up charges of embezzlement. Which means he's banned from standing against Putin in elections. The first of six such indictments, designed to keep his name off the ballot paper. He was released from jail the next day though after thousands demonstrated.

2017. Acid is thrown in Navalny's face, virtually blinding him in one eye for life.

2019. During yet another imprisonment he has an "acute allergic reaction" requiring hospitalisation.

2020. Navalny and his entire family's bank accounts are frozen in a "money laundering" probe.

August 2020. Hospitalised in a coma after another poisoning incident.

Putin - already in power for 21 years, in every sense of the word a dictator - consolidates his position making himself President for life on the result of yet another plebiscite. As Gorbachev remarks "Putin has 86% support. Soon it will be 106%".

So, help me out here, how does this sort of behaviour in any way compare to the Clinton's activities? A desperate need to justify such a regime with a frantic search for some sort of "equivalence". Putin and his asset stripping billionaire oligarchs are the Corleones compared to the Clinton's - passing ship in the night - sleazy lawyers.

A - desperate - joke. :roll:
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Re: Russia denies

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:02 pm

German government says “unequivocal evidence” Navalny was poisoned with a chemical nerve agent from the Novichok group.

https://twitter.com/rabrowne75/status/1 ... gr%5Etweet

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Re: Russia denies

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:13 pm

User comment on another site...

Navalny said in 2019 that he was diabetic. Navalny is not the opposition leader. He polled less than several other opposition parties inclusing the Communists. His poll rating is about 2% . He is not a liberal but very right wing and an interview with the Guardian and several of his videps confirm.


Case closed! :lol:
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Re: Russia denies

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:00 pm

Get Real! wrote:User comment on another site...

Navalny said in 2019 that he was diabetic. Navalny is not the opposition leader. He polled less than several other opposition parties inclusing the Communists. His poll rating is about 2% . He is not a liberal but very right wing and an interview with the Guardian and several of his videps confirm.


Case closed! :lol:


Pretty pathetic “case”, actually.

The term “opposition leader” is a non sequitur in Putin’s Russia. Navalny’s nevertheless highly popular, given the few ways such an individual manages to reach out to people in the Mafia State. Such is his following that the State (Putin IS the State) has had him tried on falsified charges and locked up, whilst he and his family have been persecuted, in order to prevent him standing in elections.

I would suggest that you couldn’t get much more “right wing” than Putin and his billionaire, asset-stripping oligarch circle. Definition of Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition AND CRITICISM regimenting all industry, commerce, etc and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. I’d say that fits the situation like a glove. :wink:

Are you saying the Germans are wrong? It was diabetes? :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: Just like the British were about Skripal and Litivenko. There’s quite a long list of Russian Putin critic expats who’ve been poisoned actually.

For a supposed “Democrat” you keep odd company. :wink: You’re not on the bottle again, are you? :(


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