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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:57 am

Maximus wrote:He is innocent until proven guilty,

I need to see the proof that he incited the protesters to violence and to commit a crime.

That is in the court room, but in the public opinion, Trump is guilty of many crimes around the election and the Capitol building. Fortunately some of his state crimes can be tried in state courts. If Trump is not held accountable for his crimes by the senate, they will be judged not by the mighty God, but by the mighty electorates in the next few elections as their terms expire.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:55 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Maximus wrote:He is innocent until proven guilty,

I need to see the proof that he incited the protesters to violence and to commit a crime.

That is in the court room, but in the public opinion, Trump is guilty of many crimes around the election and the Capitol building. Fortunately some of his state crimes can be tried in state courts. If Trump is not held accountable for his crimes by the senate, they will be judged not by the mighty God, but by the mighty electorates in the next few elections as their terms expire.


No as far as public opinion is concerned, the guy got more votes than any previous POTUS.

Also, looks like the impeachment is set to fail. The GOP are u Irving behind trump. They view the impeachment as lacking credibility, integrity and not in accordance with due process. They believe the allegation of incitement lacks merit.

So, once again, it looks like this is backfiring in the Democrats faces. To the point that even Biden may want the impeachment to stop.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:59 pm

DT. wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Don’t fucking piss me off!

Equipment is equipment and doesn’t just mean some friggin a grad camos or rifle scope FOD hunting deer. Plus they had a barracks.

You imbeciles said they went on a barracks! For gods sake, a few rednecks collecting arms or calling themselves a militia are not going to have a barracks right under the USGs nose. :roll:

No big deal in having a little barrack with some bank-beds and a rifle rack!

In the US, militias are big business where they supposedly train paying pot-bellied fools in what they call "survivalist" camps with a Rambo twist, or so they think!


It is a big deal.

A Barracks is full on site to house personnel and their equipment, armoury and all sorts depending on the facility.

A few pot bellied imbeciles who have a building on Uncle Joes farm is hardly a barracks.

DT said he had a tour of a barracks. Now, you are saying he had a tour of someone’s farm sheds where they store a few rifles, helmets and hunting scopes and call themselves a militia.

What kind of a militia is that? Secondly, DT said they had equipment similar or equal to the CNG. Well in our neck of the woods, when you say equipment equal to the CNG, then we must assume all equipment not just helmets. I can get military helmets here in Australia as well.

Plus you can get some very high powered rifles and precision scopes worth thousands and good enough to snipe from 2000 m away with great accuracy in expert hands who know what they are doing.

A few pot bellied rednecks isn’t a militia. If they call themselves a militia, have organised themselves as a militia, have a makeshift “barracks” which DT got a four of (why would you hang with these types?) then it’s illegal in the USA. There have been private militia’s in the past and even a WACO siege in Texas of some religious cult but honestly, I want to know what DT was doing going to a so called extremist camp with some shacked out clowns toting guns. Who would do that? Would you go? I wouldn’t go. A tour of a US NG facility, then no problems.

I have guns myself but gun ownership is a friggin responsibility and guns are dangerous. I store them carefully, in a safe, and store ammunition separately too. I don’t even want my kids to have access to them.

I may go hunting once or twice a year with a couple of mates - we actually do it for the 4WD wheeling more than anything and getting out. We are more worried about getting blood and guts in the trays of our utes. We have these utes that we don’t like to get too dirty. :lol:

It’s a bit off key hanging with some irresponsible clowns who go on a power trip because of their guns and organise themselves in a militia because they want to start some shit.

When someone tells you they went on a tour of a barracks, with a military or paramilitary in this case with barracks as good as the CNG and with equipment as good as the CNG, then there are only a few services in the US that have that. The US Army, US Marines, US Navy, USAF, USNG, US Coastguard, and the various State NGs like the Texas National Fuard which is also seriously equipped.



I have friends in Missoula that I visit. This camp was visible from the highway and I asked what it was. They explained and arranged for me to see inside, nice chaps. Not too bright and well within the law to organize and equip themselves like that. Apparently they’re preparing for when the Federal govt becomes a tyranny and tries to go after their weapons. Anecdotally I was informed that their recruitment numbers shot up when Obama was elected.

Now stop talking about things you don’t know paphiti.


Oh so they are not a Militia really.

Just a few blokes with some land and buildings storing their guns.

Having said that, you said it was a barracks. I wouldn’t call it a barracks. A farm with a compound, maybe.

But what is worrying is that you said that had barracks just as good as the CNG. They must be well funded. Rich rednecks? Or CNG barracks are not very good. I didn’t think CNG barracks were that bad. I thought they were ok. Not like the ones we have in Australia or the ones in the US, but ok for Cyprus.

Now do your friends kick hanging out with some doomsday peepers who plan to defend themselves against the Government to protect their guns.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:26 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Maximus wrote:He is innocent until proven guilty,

I need to see the proof that he incited the protesters to violence and to commit a crime.

That is in the court room, but in the public opinion, Trump is guilty of many crimes around the election and the Capitol building. Fortunately some of his state crimes can be tried in state courts. If Trump is not held accountable for his crimes by the senate, they will be judged not by the mighty God, but by the mighty electorates in the next few elections as their terms expire.


No as far as public opinion is concerned, the guy got more votes than any previous POTUS.

Also, looks like the impeachment is set to fail. The GOP are u Irving behind trump. They view the impeachment as lacking credibility, integrity and not in accordance with due process. They believe the allegation of incitement lacks merit.

So, once again, it looks like this is backfiring in the Democrats faces. To the point that even Biden may want the impeachment to stop.

We are post election and how many votes he got during the election has no bearing. Regardless, Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump to win the election. Full Stop. Trump’s criminal activities in violating his oath to the constitution were mainly after the election by inciting violence, especially on January 6th on the Capitol building. More people than not believe Trump is guilty for inciting violence regardless whether or not he is found guilty or not by the senate, which is why the Trump Brand has a lost a lot of value. The fact that the Banana Republican Party will exonerate one of their own is no news. The main thing is, Trump has already been impeached which makes him an accused criminal. Only in the courts one is innocent until proven guilty, but in public opinion, vast majority of Americans will always see him guilty. OJ Simpson is a perfect example of that. However, not only Trump will pay the price, but also those protecting him within the Banana Republican Party in future elections. A win-win for the Democrats. :wink:
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:40 pm

Now you know why the GOP is the Banana Republican Party without honour. :lol:

Politico
Trump may poison the party, but Republicans have decided they need him

Gabby Orr and Meridith McGraw
Updated Fri, January 29, 2021, 4:39 AM

Three weeks ago, Donald Trump was radioactive, even in the top quarters of his own party. Now, those same Republicans are convinced they can't live without the energy he gives off, even if it proves toxic.

“We need each other. We certainly need him and his input and his voters,” said Jonathan Barnett, an Arkansas RNC committee member. “But again he needs us too. Together, we gotta work this thing out.”

Trump’s hold on the Republican Party over the past four years has been remarkable. But for a brief moment after the deadly riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6, it seemed tenuous. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-may-po ... 41793.html
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:45 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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GOP Strategist Predicts What Will Become Of The GOP If Donald Trump Isn’t Convicted

Lee Moran·Reporter, HuffPost
Updated Fri, January 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

Republican strategist Sarah Longwell warned Thursday that Donald Trump will control the GOP for the next decade if Senate Republicans don’t vote to convict the former president for inciting the U.S. Capitol riot.

Longwell, who founded the Republican Voters Against Trump group that before the election released ads featuring rank-and-file members explaining why they ditched the party, told CNN’s Don Lemon that GOP lawmakers should “get past” their fear of Trump because “this impeachment vote is their off-ramp.”

“This is their best chance to put a stake through Donald Trump’s political future,” she said. “If they don’t take it, Donald Trump is going to control this party for the next 10 years”. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:27 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Maximus wrote:He is innocent until proven guilty,

I need to see the proof that he incited the protesters to violence and to commit a crime.

That is in the court room, but in the public opinion, Trump is guilty of many crimes around the election and the Capitol building. Fortunately some of his state crimes can be tried in state courts. If Trump is not held accountable for his crimes by the senate, they will be judged not by the mighty God, but by the mighty electorates in the next few elections as their terms expire.


No as far as public opinion is concerned, the guy got more votes than any previous POTUS.

Also, looks like the impeachment is set to fail. The GOP are u Irving behind trump. They view the impeachment as lacking credibility, integrity and not in accordance with due process. They believe the allegation of incitement lacks merit.

So, once again, it looks like this is backfiring in the Democrats faces. To the point that even Biden may want the impeachment to stop.

We are post election and how many votes he got during the election has no bearing. Regardless, Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump to win the election. Full Stop. Trump’s criminal activities in violating his oath to the constitution were mainly after the election by inciting violence, especially on January 6th on the Capitol building. More people than not believe Trump is guilty for inciting violence regardless whether or not he is found guilty or not by the senate, which is why the Trump Brand has a lost a lot of value. The fact that the Banana Republican Party will exonerate one of their own is no news. The main thing is, Trump has already been impeached which makes him an accused criminal. Only in the courts one is innocent until proven guilty, but in public opinion, vast majority of Americans will always see him guilty. OJ Simpson is a perfect example of that. However, not only Trump will pay the price, but also those protecting him within the Banana Republican Party in future elections. A win-win for the Democrats. :wink:


You expect us to believe 7 million more people voted fir Bidennto become The Lresisent...of....you know....the thing! :lol:

Oh Kikapu, you are in for a world of hurt. This impeachment is going to cost the Democrats teal bi politically.

Trumps support is relevant. You said public opinion is against him. Clearly it isn’t! Trump has a lot of support. And he can only build on that support if the impeachment fails for the fraud it actually is.

And it will fail because it looks like the GOP will not play ball with the Democrats. That’s because they know they are back in 2024.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:39 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Maximus wrote:He is innocent until proven guilty,

I need to see the proof that he incited the protesters to violence and to commit a crime.

That is in the court room, but in the public opinion, Trump is guilty of many crimes around the election and the Capitol building. Fortunately some of his state crimes can be tried in state courts. If Trump is not held accountable for his crimes by the senate, they will be judged not by the mighty God, but by the mighty electorates in the next few elections as their terms expire.


No as far as public opinion is concerned, the guy got more votes than any previous POTUS.

Also, looks like the impeachment is set to fail. The GOP are u Irving behind trump. They view the impeachment as lacking credibility, integrity and not in accordance with due process. They believe the allegation of incitement lacks merit.

So, once again, it looks like this is backfiring in the Democrats faces. To the point that even Biden may want the impeachment to stop.

We are post election and how many votes he got during the election has no bearing. Regardless, Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump to win the election. Full Stop. Trump’s criminal activities in violating his oath to the constitution were mainly after the election by inciting violence, especially on January 6th on the Capitol building. More people than not believe Trump is guilty for inciting violence regardless whether or not he is found guilty or not by the senate, which is why the Trump Brand has a lost a lot of value. The fact that the Banana Republican Party will exonerate one of their own is no news. The main thing is, Trump has already been impeached which makes him an accused criminal. Only in the courts one is innocent until proven guilty, but in public opinion, vast majority of Americans will always see him guilty. OJ Simpson is a perfect example of that. However, not only Trump will pay the price, but also those protecting him within the Banana Republican Party in future elections. A win-win for the Democrats. :wink:


You expect us to believe 7 million more people voted fir Bidennto become The Lresisent...of....you know....the thing! :lol:

Oh Kikapu, you are in for a world of hurt. This impeachment is going to cost the Democrats teal bi politically.

Trumps support is relevant. You said public opinion is against him. Clearly it isn’t! Trump has a lot of support. And he can only build on that support if the impeachment fails for the fraud it actually is.

And it will fail because it looks like the GOP will not play ball with the Democrats. That’s because they know they are back in 2024.


Georgia senate races were post the elections with Trump still the president, and yet, the GOP lost both the seats to the Democrats to give them the majority vote with the VP Harris. That is going to be trend as long as Trump and the GOP are in the same bed. Bring it on says the Democrats. Trump is a nasty piece of work. Since his presidency in 2016, all he has brought to the GOP is one disappointment after another in the House, the Senate and the White House. Trump most definitely does not have the Political Midas Touch. :D
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:17 pm

“If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed…and we will deserve it”
Lindsey Graham 5/3/2016.


...need more be said? Integrity counts, and how it is defined.

I ask, who is this man working for, staring straight at the face of his prediction; standing up for what, standing against a trial?
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Londonrake » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:35 pm

"Debate" on Trump seems to have descended into a sort of "My Dad's bigger than your Dad" war of speculation and counter speculation. :?
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