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Re: Cyprus Golden Passports

Postby Paphitis » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:13 am

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Paphitis wrote:The freedoms I talk about is our ability to do what we want when we want as long as we are not in violation of any laws. We have free movement, freedom of association, free speech, we elect our leaders, have the ability to show enterprise and innovation, can work as hard as we like, and we have a free press. Not every country is in that boat.

No, we don’t have free speech!

When you hear about “Freedom of expression” (or speech) it’s not the guideline itself but the TITLE to a long list of guidelines (LIMITATIONS) that dictate in detail what constitutes freedom of speech and what does not!

But, like millions of ignorant people in this world you foolishly assume that the TITLE is the sole guideline; suggesting that one can say anything they want and about anybody they want, but nothing could be further from the truth!

And neither do we elect our leaders! What you elect is usually one of two CLOWNS that have been shoved in your face by party politics, and if neither one is desirable tough titties because that’s all you’re getting! If you call such travesty a “freedom” or a “privilege” I pity you…


Sorry I beg to differ. We do have freedom of speech. You are able to disagree and be critical of your government as much or as little as you like.

The only think that is illegal is libel and defamation. You can’t be ruining someone’s reputation which will cause that person a loss in reputation and or business. It’s more of a civil matter though, not criminal.

In the US though you can. You have total freedom to say what you want and engage in libel as that is protected under their constitution.

In Cyprus, the Government can’t and doesn’t restrict your free speech at all. The same here in Australia.
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Re: Cyprus Golden Passports

Postby Paphitis » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:23 am

Maximus wrote:No, Turkey wasnt behind it,

Corrupt members of Cypriot parliament were behind it.

For instance, Giovannis was directly benefiting through his property development company.

Syllouris, the lawyer as well as Giovannis were colluding and abusing their positions to falsify documents and to circumvent laws to bring people with a criminal record and dirty money to Cyprus and the EU.

I bet this is just the tip of the iceberg regarding these "golden passports".

Al Jazeera just exposed it. Cypriot journalists couldnt but should have......

The best bit in the whole documentary is when the lawyer realizes that something isnt quite right and they could be exposing themselves.

How they manage to get that footage is interesting.


I’ve been saying it for yonks that a lot of these wealthy Russians and Chinese are criminals and we shouldn’t have them in Cyprus. I wouldn’t want them in Australia either. Why? Because they are down right criminals and bad people. And to be a criminal and a bad person or a Mafioso, your fellow human means nothing to you, all that matters is the money. Not the people we should have among us.

I’m sure there are other criminals in Cyprus too. Some from other countries as well. It’s just the Russians seem to be the most prolific. They aren’t exactly your average Brit white sock and sandals wearing pensioners and retirees. These people are harmless and just looking to have a peaceful retirement after 40 years of hard work.

However, those 2 British Realtors should be arrested. That sleazy lawyer too.
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Re: Cyprus Golden Passports

Postby Maximus » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:23 pm

Reports on Friday said that despite the humiliation from the resignation, Syllouris, 67, would be getting a golden handshake in the region of €100,000 on top of the around €160,000 he received for his term as MP.

Moreover, the former House president will get to keep the service limo – whose expenses will be footed by taxpayers — a security detail, and €3,000 per month for a secretary whom he does not need to employ.

He will also be receiving around €5,000 per month as pension.

Basically full benefits plus some for someone departing that was involved in a scandal.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/10/16/full ... syllouris/

I bet nothing will happen to these people. The law abiding working taxpayer will keep footing the bill.

These politicians are over paid and they under deliver.........
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Re: Cyprus Golden Passports

Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:57 pm

I have no doubt this is happening in all EU countries and it is happening on a larger scale than that of Cyprus. There is only one way to offer citizenship to investors and that is by all EU nations agreeing to the application.

The applicants name, amount that the applicant is investing + any criminal record must be shared with all EU nations and all members have to agree for the application to go through. Doing it any other way is wide open to abuse.
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Re: Cyprus Golden Passports

Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:17 pm

Maximus wrote:Reports on Friday said that despite the humiliation from the resignation, Syllouris, 67, would be getting a golden handshake in the region of €100,000 on top of the around €160,000 he received for his term as MP.

Moreover, the former House president will get to keep the service limo – whose expenses will be footed by taxpayers — a security detail, and €3,000 per month for a secretary whom he does not need to employ.

He will also be receiving around €5,000 per month as pension.

Basically full benefits plus some for someone departing that was involved in a scandal.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/10/16/full ... syllouris/

I bet nothing will happen to these people. The law abiding working taxpayer will keep footing the bill.

These politicians are over paid and they under deliver.........

Bloody disgrace if you ask me. He should be punished not awarded for his conduct. :evil:
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Re: Cyprus Golden Passports

Postby Maximus » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:40 pm

There is enough evidence here to suggest that he is guilty of wrong doing.

Although this case is fictitious, the intent is clear and so many passports are going to be revoked because of what was going on.

I can understand that you cant take away someones pension, but the money for a secretary, the limo and the golden handshake is not appropriate.

If found guilty for something like this, your average person would have their assets frozen and maybe go to jail.
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Re: Cyprus Golden Passports

Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:49 pm

Maximus wrote:There is enough evidence here to suggest that he is guilty of wrong doing.

Although this case is fictitious, the intent is clear and so many passports are going to be revoked because of what was going on.

I can understand that you cant take away someones pension, but the money for a secretary, the limo and the golden handshake is not appropriate.

If found guilty for something like this, your average person would have their assets frozen and maybe go to jail.

100% agree with you there Max.
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