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Re: Any good builder recommendations?

Postby DT. » Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:39 pm

Zemcogroup.com probably the most professional contractor around these days, your project might be a little small for them though.
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Re: Any good builder recommendations?

Postby Paphitis » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:56 am

DT. wrote:Zemcogroup.com probably the most professional contractor around these days, your project might be a little small for them though.


Thank you DT.

I'll look into them. What if this company get's an additional 5 after completion of this initial project? Would that be enough of a carrot for them?

If all goes well with these 2 projects, there will be no doubt more down the line.

We are just a little scared at this stage as we don't know the market and we don't really know the trade in Cyprus.
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Re: Any good builder recommendations?

Postby miltiades » Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:32 pm

More ....bullshit from the General :lol:
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Re: Any good builder recommendations?

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:25 pm

...given your position in all this Paphitis, i suggest you find an Architect who would know the builder(s) you are looking for; someone whose work you like: who you like.

An Architect, looking ahead, can provide sound advice on many issues; a builder will be naturally inclined in satisfying your needs to maximise his profits (it will not necessarily be the best advice).

...given that an Architect will sign-off as your representative, having a Project Manager to prepare, plan, and execute such a sign-off, assures from the builder (who wants to get paid) a flawless inspection, at Approval.

...such a template when reproduced on other projects, the Checklists (Inspection Reports) and Tenders (Work Orders), Administratively speaking as a cost, will be greatly reduced (and used with greater efficiency).

...planning is everything, Paphitis. Use that as a Mantra in Construction. You cannot plan enough; you will still find yourself having to adapt.

And do not allow yourself to be deluded, finishing is a world in itself, in Construction it takes at least as much time (and money) as the build that got you to that point. (A Bad Finish, is, a bad finish.)

...Pride matters in construction; you, as the "owner" must find a way to put Pride in the result.

I would like to help you, and this is exactly the stuff that i've done in my youth, (won awards for it no less); before the habitability of ships, residential property, commercially speaking, for profit.
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Re: Any good builder recommendations?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:16 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...given your position in all this Paphitis, i suggest you find an Architect who would know the builder(s) you are looking for; someone whose work you like: who you like.

An Architect, looking ahead, can provide sound advice on many issues; a builder will be naturally inclined in satisfying your needs to maximise his profits (it will not necessarily be the best advice).

...given that an Architect will sign-off as your representative, having a Project Manager to prepare, plan, and execute such a sign-off, assures from the builder (who wants to get paid) a flawless inspection, at Approval.

...such a template when reproduced on other projects, the Checklists (Inspection Reports) and Tenders (Work Orders), Administratively speaking as a cost, will be greatly reduced (and used with greater efficiency).

...planning is everything, Paphitis. Use that as a Mantra in Construction. You cannot plan enough; you will still find yourself having to adapt.

And do not allow yourself to be deluded, finishing is a world in itself, in Construction it takes at least as much time (and money) as the build that got you to that point. (A Bad Finish, is, a bad finish.)

...Pride matters in construction; you, as the "owner" must find a way to put Pride in the result.

I would like to help you, and this is exactly the stuff that i've done in my youth, (won awards for it no less); before the habitability of ships, residential property, commercially speaking, for profit.


We have architects we have been using here in Australia RW and we have our own unique style. It's very English. Old and traditional classic housing and restorations.

But our models would look way out of place in Cyprus unless it was done on a big estate away from other houses.

We pride ourselves on our finish and we are not in most people's price brackets. We spend a lot of money just on fit-out. A lot of detail. Just to give you an idea. the guy that made the door at 10 Downing Street, well he works for us.

I'd love to send some photos to you. We don't just put walls and ceilings up. Everything is completed with extreme fine detail. The walls ornate. Ornate ceilings. The wood work. The lighting. The bath rooms. Kitchens are outsourced by us usually.

The types of houses we like are houses built in the 1800s to 1920s. we couldn't do that in Cyprus. It just wouldn't fit Cyprus well so we need a Cypriot Architect.

In Australia we got it down pat and have models but every customer can vary and add options according to their budgets. All our models just wouldn't go in Cyprus.

Imagine an old established house in the inner city of Adelaide getting plonked in Cyprus. It would be far too radical for Cyprus. Those who have been to Adelaide will understand. We either restore old houses like this (which are the most beautiful homes) to their former glories or we replicate from new. That's what we do.
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Re: Any good builder recommendations?

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:54 pm

...then it is exactly what i've suggested, you need.

cheers.
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Re: Any good builder recommendations?

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:07 am

RW and DT,

I posted some images of a typical build we do in Adelaide here:

cyprus47496-700.html

How would something like that go in Cyprus? Would that appeal to the Cypriot tastes? Would it be out of place?

That house is a 1905 English Bungalow with a whopping extension. Also very finite detailing - ceilings, flooring, old style lighting and hardware, led lighting, butlers pantry, 3 bathrooms, 5 bedrooms etc. it’s a 50 square home. The houses in Cyprus would be much smaller, probable average to above average size.

Everything done to English tastes.

Would it be a go in Cyprus or not? I know Cypriots are not big on wood work.

I’m not a huge fan of modern houses in Cyprus. But I do love the very old stone cottages you find in Cypriot villages. Now they are wonderful. But I don’t see many builders maintaining that old school charm.

Are there any builders that specialise in stone cottages?
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Re: Any good builder recommendations?

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:54 pm

https://www.pwc.com.cy/en/industries/as ... 1-2020.pdf

Cyprus Real Estate Market
First Half in Review | H1 2020

...someone might find this interesting.
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