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[repulsewarrior]

...Tatar may have a two state solution, (the existence of a Greek Constituency perhaps among others) but at another level of government, within a Cypriot State.

This is a BBF, and it satisfies the People, those who are Cypriot, Individuals prepared to defend the Universal Principal, that we are all equal without the need for further distinction or discrimination, and as Persons, having beyond Freedom, the Liberty to nurture distinct identities.

...as i've said before, easy to imagine a BBF in Turkey, something she would emulate, in effect, that Cyprus had one.

[Maximus]

They dont want it RW...

They dont want a BBF, they dont want democracy, they dont want the EU, they dont want to "live" with the GC's. They have been left wanting from everyone without giving anything to anyone.

The RoC has to change its negotiating position now,

One Cyprus, free of illegal Turkish occupation.

Two states, Cyprus and Turkey.

[repulsewarrior]

...let's not forget Max, the "they" you are talking about represent only about half the population.

[repulsewarrior]

..."this was not an easy meeting"

..."not yet found enough common ground"

..."to fight for the security and well being of the Cypriots...that deserve to live in peace and prosperity together"

..."another meeting will follow"

...questions from the Press are included, also interesting.

[Lordo]

Hang on a minute,

All of Akinci's predecessors have been trying to negotiate a BBF and have simultaneously been going behind the GC's back talking to Turkey about a two state solution.

More fuckin bullshit. Talat begged Christofias for BBF and even got Erdogan top accept the idea in 2004. He also asked Christofias to just list the items agreed before he stood for election and to prevent Talat from winning he claimed nothing is agreed till it is all agreed. You are full of bullshit as per usual. If only you bastards had a politician half as good as Talat or Akinci the Cyprus Problem would have been solved decades ago. You fucking hypocrites. Your leaders had balls the size of fucking peas.

[Lordo]

UN Chief, Guterres, declines Tatar's proposal for a two state solution in Cyprus.

That is not endorsed by anyone.

https://ahvalnews.com/northern-cyprus/u ... e-proposal

The RoC should entertain dialogue along these lines though, and start negotiating with him about a two state solution. One state being Cyprus and the other being Turkey.

BBF is a compromise that hasn't worked. If the Turkish side wants to negotiate away from the UN framework, then the RoC should revoke this compromise as well.

It is time to revert to a unitary state, free from illegal Turkish occupation. The latter is the only constant in all attempts to solve Cyprus's Turkish problem. And all agree, that they have to go.

More bullshit again, he did not refuse it he simply said he has not go the mandate to change to discussions.

That means we are going to have 5 more years and Tatar and by the end we will probably have the first gaco President. You can kiss goodbye to any settlement or talks from than on. You have gifted 37% of RoC to Turkey. Well done is all I can say.

Although you may be stupid enough to lose the rest too.

[Lordo]

..."this was not an easy meeting"

..."not yet found enough common ground"

..."to fight for the security and well being of the Cypriots...that deserve to live in peace and prosperity together"

..."another meeting will follow"

...questions from the Press are included, also interesting.

He was at the talks with Akinci and he run away. He is fucking liar. The only reason why he offered BBF and political equality now is because he knew Tatar will be asking for two states. So now Anastasiades is in the clear in the eyes of the International Community but Cypriots will not forgive this fucking liar and what he has done.

What was it he said last time, he wanted troops and guarantees out in day one and a TC can never be a President. That is really Political equality ain't it?

[Maximus]

More bullshit again, he did not refuse it he simply said he has not go the mandate to change to discussions.

There is not going to be two independent states in Cyprus.

More fuckin bullshit. Talat begged Christofias for BBF and even got Erdogan top accept the idea in 2004. He also asked Christofias to just list the items agreed before he stood for election and to prevent Talat from winning he claimed nothing is agreed till it is all agreed. You are full of bullshit as per usual. If only you bastards had a politician half as good as Talat or Akinci the Cyprus Problem would have been solved decades ago. You fucking hypocrites. Your leaders had balls the size of fucking peas.

I have put a fair amount of time and energy in to understanding the problem I was born in to. It transcends generations and this needs to stop.

With that being said, you will never solve the problem with your mentality. And unfortunately, your mentality is prevalent in your community as well.

You are just a lost cause.

[repulsewarrior]

...we shall see if there are Cypriots and who they are. Who says they are but a few are mistaken. It has already begun, that they gather; and under their Flag, the one that is rightfully theirs, the Flag of Cyprus.

[Maximus]

I don't know what it is that you see but I don't see that.

I see two sides that fundamentally cant agree on anything,

one side wants an apartheid or a separate state, the other side wants democracy and an end to an illegal occupation.