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Re: The Mind of a Multiple Murderer

Postby Kikapu » Mon May 03, 2021 7:04 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Lordo wrote:Many Doctors studied the behaviour of Ted Bundy and these are the conclusion they came up with. If these are true he must be 1 in billion that existed with such traits.

Antisocial Personality Disorder
Psychopathy
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Bipolar Personality Disorder
Borderline Personality Disorder
Schizoid Personality Disorder
Addictive Disorder
Machiavellianism

And I have no doubt his upbringing had a lot to do with what he did.


Trump must be Bundy‘s twin brother with the above “qualities”! :D


Biden, has autism and Dementia.


Yes but, that can only harm himself. :wink:


He is harming America and the American people. With 500,000 new illegals.

And he is also harming peace and stability globally as he isn't taken seriously globally. America is in a deep sleep now. An open invitation for despots to do their worse. When the cat sleeps, the mice play in the pantry.


I guess Trump's beautiful wall is not working to keep illegals out.
Illegals come because they are offered jobs Americans won't do.
The country is now run by adults. :wink: b
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Re: The Mind of a Multiple Murderer

Postby Lordo » Mon May 03, 2021 7:28 pm

Cap wrote:
I know you're gunning for the nurture (upbringing) explanation. (blame parents/society etc)
It's usually not the case.


Is this a reference to me?
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Re: The Mind of a Multiple Murderer

Postby Londonrake » Mon May 03, 2021 9:57 pm

My judgement, FWIW and - before this thread likely descends into the usual "You're an idiot who knows nothing, listen here boy, go play with your toys" avenue.

There's no doubting the facts about Kuklinski's history as a cold blooded killer. However, the Dietz/Kuklinski recording comes across as a semi-staged exercise.

It seems evident to me that Dietz is massaging Kuklinski's ego, attempting to elicit shocking revelations. Kuklinski appears, hesitantly, to be trying to provide them. What does this man want me to say? This is prisoner who at that stage would have probably spent years of 12 hours a day just staring at the 4 walls of his confined cell. Dead nevertheless for 15 now. Towards the very end Dietz even seems to be patronisingly congratulating Kuklinski on his "achievements".

As I said earlier, he was convicted of the killings of 5 people and given a life sentence. Whilst he claimed - after clearly being coaxed in that direction by Dietz - to have killed over 200. I personally have trouble accepting that the police would have turned their backs on the opportunity to close the file on a lot of those cases whilst Kuklinski was incarcerated. Too busy? :? Some sort of deal, perhaps involving concessions, would surely have been done?

Bundy I think was a better example of a depraved and psychotic killer. A subject for what makes human beings do such things. His almost unbelievably barbaric actions, in contrast to the way he comes across as an articulate, sincere, charming and very friendly human being are an education.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VrdWgwxvV0

He lured the 12 year old girl back to his hotel room. Sexually assaulted her then dumped the body in a river. Hard though, not to feel sorry for his pain. Ehh?

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary, The Devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he can devour."
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Re: The Mind of a Multiple Murderer

Postby Lordo » Mon May 03, 2021 10:29 pm

Those kind of remarks are for those who just do not understand the subject but insist on posting crap.

You are not being fair to the good doctor. He was brought in by the court to help them in their decision making. He also uses his knowledge gained to create the profile of the suspects so the police can find them quicker and finally that is not the actual interview, that is segments taken from the interview which are much more extensive.

No I do not feel sorry for him but I do believe him that he could not understand why he did what he did and at least he found out the factors which drove him to do what he did. The good doctor also explained thathe was not detined to be a criminal. Peopel with his medical conditions do things like bomb disposals, testing planes and racing racing cars.

Give him some credit he knows what he is doing.
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Re: The Mind of a Multiple Murderer

Postby Londonrake » Mon May 03, 2021 10:45 pm

Lordo wrote:Those kind of remarks are for those who just do not understand the subject but insist on posting crap.


Well, there you go.

You see, it's really not possible to have a reasonable and reasoned discussion/debate with you Lordo. It's hard to find any exchanges, where opinions differ to yours, that don't very quickly descend to the level where you're employing the usual bully boy slagging off responses.

People have different opinions on subjects. Quite a few times both can be equally valid and reasonable. It can all boil down to a matter of perspective. Bullying doesn't make yours in some way more so.
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Re: The Mind of a Multiple Murderer

Postby Get Real! » Mon May 03, 2021 11:55 pm

Lordo wrote:Many Doctors studied the behaviour of Ted Bundy and these are the conclusion they came up with. If these are true he must be 1 in billion that existed with such traits.

Antisocial Personality Disorder
Psychopathy
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Bipolar Personality Disorder
Borderline Personality Disorder
Schizoid Personality Disorder
Addictive Disorder
Machiavellianism

At the end of the day, all these labels invented by the psychiatric world are nothing but vague and feeble attempts to place MARKERS on the vast human personality spectrum.

But it’s what I explained to you earlier, and even though I treated you like an 8 year old with a colorful picture and an easy to understand example, you still didn’t get it because you are poorly educated.

Every personality has a unique SIGNATURE that is comprised from the values of all the little “beakers” (specific neurons yet to be pinpointed) I spoke to you about, and their levels of “liquid” (chemical balances thereof).

The personality SIGNATURE may be expressed with something like this...

FF8GHK3BS3PO9WZQL8DXZ1

...but no doubt in real life it will be much longer than that.

If we had say 100 different “beakers” each having liquid in the range of [0..100] then that simple arrangement alone could represent trillions of permutations!

Everything is quantifiable, including personality and one day we may be able to calculate them and produce signatures like the simple example above.

In the meantime, I really think you should spend more time watching TV and less time scratching your head over things you’ll never comprehend anyway… for you have the mathematical skills of an autistic orangutan, the analytical skills of an inbred wombat, and the programming skills of a constipated Turkish desert mule.
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Re: The Mind of a Multiple Murderer

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 04, 2021 12:57 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:Many Doctors studied the behaviour of Ted Bundy and these are the conclusion they came up with. If these are true he must be 1 in billion that existed with such traits.

Antisocial Personality Disorder
Psychopathy
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Bipolar Personality Disorder
Borderline Personality Disorder
Schizoid Personality Disorder
Addictive Disorder
Machiavellianism

And I have no doubt his upbringing had a lot to do with what he did.


Trump must be Bundy‘s twin brother with the above “qualities”! :D


Biden, has autism and Dementia.


Yes but, that can only harm himself. :wink:


He is harming America and the American people. With 500,000 new illegals.

And he is also harming peace and stability globally as he isn't taken seriously globally. America is in a deep sleep now. An open invitation for despots to do their worse. When the cat sleeps, the mice play in the pantry.


I guess Trump's beautiful wall is not working to keep illegals out.
Illegals come because they are offered jobs Americans won't do.
The country is now run by adults. :wink: b


That’s bullshit. They are illegals. They are not allowed to work in the legit US Market. They are breaking more laws by working in the Black Economy and not paying tax.

Probably also engaged in major crime just to survive.
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Re: The Mind of a Multiple Murderer

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 04, 2021 1:01 am

Lordo wrote:Those kind of remarks are for those who just do not understand the subject but insist on posting crap.

You are not being fair to the good doctor. He was brought in by the court to help them in their decision making. He also uses his knowledge gained to create the profile of the suspects so the police can find them quicker and finally that is not the actual interview, that is segments taken from the interview which are much more extensive.

No I do not feel sorry for him but I do believe him that he could not understand why he did what he did and at least he found out the factors which drove him to do what he did. The good doctor also explained thathe was not detined to be a criminal. Peopel with his medical conditions do things like bomb disposals, testing planes and racing racing cars.

Give him some credit he knows what he is doing.


Special forces as well.

They go to war like Afghanistan, are exposed to a hostile environment, a violent environment and wham, war crimes.

Australian SAS perfect example.

You have to be wired a bit different to get in the SAS. They are just very different people in the SAS.

Environmental factors such as upbringing, war and things like that are super critical.

So they are everywhere in the military, especially in special forces. The same individuals could be so nice at hone helping old ladies cross the road and carry their shopping, but in Afghanistan think nothing of executing captured prisoners point blank.

It’s the perfect soldier for the SAS or a Mafia hired gun.
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Re: The Mind of a Multiple Murderer

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 04, 2021 1:55 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:Many Doctors studied the behaviour of Ted Bundy and these are the conclusion they came up with. If these are true he must be 1 in billion that existed with such traits.

Antisocial Personality Disorder
Psychopathy
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Bipolar Personality Disorder
Borderline Personality Disorder
Schizoid Personality Disorder
Addictive Disorder
Machiavellianism

And I have no doubt his upbringing had a lot to do with what he did.


Trump must be Bundy‘s twin brother with the above “qualities”! :D


Biden, has autism and Dementia.


Yes but, that can only harm himself. :wink:


He is harming America and the American people. With 500,000 new illegals.

And he is also harming peace and stability globally as he isn't taken seriously globally. America is in a deep sleep now. An open invitation for despots to do their worse. When the cat sleeps, the mice play in the pantry.


I guess Trump's beautiful wall is not working to keep illegals out.
Illegals come because they are offered jobs Americans won't do.
The country is now run by adults. :wink: b


Secondly, the US always had its processes of backfilling labour shortages in industry. If there is a pilot shortage, they have the E3 program for Australians and Canadians. I’m sure each and every industry has similar programs.

If you want to enter the YS, there are legal avenues you could follow. I did and am an E3 holder. The process was not that hard.
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Re: The Mind of a Multiple Murderer

Postby Kikapu » Tue May 04, 2021 7:31 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:Many Doctors studied the behaviour of Ted Bundy and these are the conclusion they came up with. If these are true he must be 1 in billion that existed with such traits.

Antisocial Personality Disorder
Psychopathy
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Bipolar Personality Disorder
Borderline Personality Disorder
Schizoid Personality Disorder
Addictive Disorder
Machiavellianism

And I have no doubt his upbringing had a lot to do with what he did.


Trump must be Bundy‘s twin brother with the above “qualities”! :D


Biden, has autism and Dementia.


Yes but, that can only harm himself. :wink:


He is harming America and the American people. With 500,000 new illegals.

And he is also harming peace and stability globally as he isn't taken seriously globally. America is in a deep sleep now. An open invitation for despots to do their worse. When the cat sleeps, the mice play in the pantry.


I guess Trump's beautiful wall is not working to keep illegals out.
Illegals come because they are offered jobs Americans won't do.
The country is now run by adults. :wink: b


Secondly, the US always had its processes of backfilling labour shortages in industry. If there is a pilot shortage, they have the E3 program for Australians and Canadians. I’m sure each and every industry has similar programs.

If you want to enter the YS, there are legal avenues you could follow. I did and am an E3 holder. The process was not that hard.


Paphitis, you have much to learn about the unskilled Labour market needs in the USA, which is where the undocumented workers come in and they provide a service where many Americans would not want to touch with a 10 ft pole. Who do you think works the agricultural fields doing back breaking work so that Americans can have their cheap vegetables fruits and vegetables or in many factories and warehouses and domestic help in homes and gardeners and the list goes on with very little benefits. The hope for them is to give their children a better life than they had in their own countries, especially if the child is born in the US which then automatically becomes an American citizen. I think you have lived a sheltered life for way too long in Australia my friend. :wink:
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