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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Maximus » Mon May 17, 2021 11:03 am

I have answered similar or the same questions countless times in the past.

I know the position of your community and your responses like rehearsed lines in a scripted play. :roll:
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Lordo » Mon May 17, 2021 4:02 pm

DT. wrote:
Lordo wrote:
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Lordo wrote:The issue here is about a family who were made refugees in 1948 by the formation of Israel.

These six families found themselves as refugees and their homes were destroyed by Israel so they would not be able to return. They lived a refugee life till 1956 by which time they were offered properties in East Jerusalem. In 1967 Israel occupied East Jerusalem and they found themselves under threat once again. This year there were about to be evicted from their homes, not to return the homes to the original property owners but some settlers who have no connection with the properties what so ever and are are about to be given them on account that they are simply Jewish. To compound the injustice they are suffering, they have properties in Israel but are forbidden by law to claim them, not that they are standing but at least they can rebuild their homes.

Now somebody who is serious and wants to debate, tell me a single GC which has these circumstances and I will hand over to each one, one of my properties that the RoC is refusing to give back to me. However I must warn you that RoC does not give up TC properties that easy not even to a GC.

Let us now return to the notion of GCs able to claim their properties back, when I say claim I did not say return, and some have returned but claim and if necessary either accept alternative arrangement or compensation.

Let us look at the facts.

IPC Commission consists of
Mr. Ayfer Erkmen, President,
Mr. Güngör Günkan, Vice-President,
Mrs. Sümer Erkmen, Member
Mr. Erhan Berksel, Member
Mr. Hans C. Kruger, Member
Mr. Daniel Tarschys, Member
Mrs. Saskia Yorucu. Member

Add to that:

The Immovable Property Commission examines claims for restitution, compensation and exchange according to the provisions of the law no 67/2005. Its considerations are based on the principles of bi-zonality and bi-communality which have been common elements of the 1977-1979 High Level Agreements as well as plans for a settlement of the Cyprus Issue prepared by the United Nations. It seeks to satisfy the legitimate claims of property owners without prejudice to the rights of the Turkish Cypriot Community.

As of 10 May 2021, 6,837 applications have been lodged with the Commission and 1,227 of them have been concluded through friendly settlements and 34 through formal hearing.

The Commission has awarded GBP 318,197,662.- to the applicants as compensation. Moreover, it has ruled for
1. exchange and compensation in two cases
2. for restitution in three cases
3. For restitution and compensation in seven cases.
4. In one case it has delivered a decision for restitution after the settlement of Cyprus Issue
5. In one case it has ruled for partial restitution.

The question you need to ask your self is very simple. Why has only 6,837 applications have been made when there are 160,000 refugees from 1974.

Further more one more questions. Where the fuck were you you bastards in 1958 and again in 1963 and 67 and finally again in 1974 when 60,000 TCs were driven from their homes for the 3rd time in one generation, to ask about the properties of the TCs that were taken from and were reduced to an arwa of 2.5% of Cyprus. Too busy fakin moucchoing I reckon.

Now normally I am calm and very nice person if I may say so myself. But there is limit to my patience and the average stupidity of a GC who refuses to see logic.

As to the old man shish kebab, I am afraid you have to wait till we have kosher pork meat. And there you are making use the word pork during Ramazan and making me sin so I will go to hell. But than again I will have you bastards there too and we can discuss the Cyprus Problem to infinitum.

What a way to go.

Now for Maximoui there is an answer he will understand. If you finished your bottle, just but your head down and sleep boy. Aghou aghou boullaruimmu yaonoman do bethimou dje na messe biarzoun o bello-tourgous



Every time some drunk Turk gets some Dutch courage he rocks up here reciting the same old lies. Start with this famous bullshit 2.5% area that the tc’s were reduced to.


This looks very interesting. The Brits have 3%. This map makes it clear by just looking at it how much land TCs had in 1963. Get the old stencil out if you wish?

In the meantime how about what these families are suffering, any sympathy for their pain?


Want you to take a good look at that map. You still going with your 2.5%? I’m seeing 10% minimum if you compare to the British bases

I am not one for not accepting when I am wrong. Having another close look at it, I put it down to between same as and twice as much. So that's between 3% and 6%, but nearer to 4.5 to 5%. Certainly not 10% or anywhere near. That would be more than 3 times the SBAs.
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Lordo » Mon May 17, 2021 4:04 pm

Maximus wrote:I have answered similar or the same questions countless times in the past.

I know the position of your community and your responses like rehearsed lines in a scripted play. :roll:


Don't make me get the hose now boy, get back into your cot, you hear. There's a good boy.
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Lordo » Mon May 17, 2021 4:12 pm

Maximus wrote:I have answered similar or the same questions countless times in the past.

I know the position of your community and your responses like rehearsed lines in a scripted play. :roll:


ohhh its a play you are after. enjoy.

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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Maximus » Mon May 17, 2021 11:55 pm

It just gets crazier,

Pundits inside Turkey are talking about a "libyan model" EEZ agreement with Hamas, linking parts of the Turkish coast to Gaza.

Turkish media, Yeni Safik reported and probably has Government approval because all media is government controlled.

They argue that signing such a deal with Hamas will increase Turkish support for Palestinians by sea while giving Turkey access to energy reserves off Israels coast. Also, this would cut Israel off from Cyprus and Greece and obstruct the pipeline project slated to transit energy from Mediterranean gas fields to Europe.

What planet are these people on?

Doesn't this also cut across and violate their own Turkey-Libyan "EEZ".

They cant get anything right. :lol:
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Maximus » Tue May 18, 2021 12:17 am

Lordo wrote:
This looks very interesting. The Brits have 3%. This map makes it clear by just looking at it how much land TCs had in 1963. Get the old stencil out if you wish?

In the meantime how about what these families are suffering, any sympathy for their pain?


DT wrote:Want you to take a good look at that map. You still going with your 2.5%? I’m seeing 10% minimum if you compare to the British bases


Lordo wrote:I am not one for not accepting when I am wrong. Having another close look at it, I put it down to between same as and twice as much. So that's between 3% and 6%, but nearer to 4.5 to 5%. Certainly not 10% or anywhere near. That would be more than 3 times the SBAs.


You want to take a good look at that map and count those grids Bordo,

In one column tally up the British bases area in another column, then tally up the TC owned land in another.

I counted them grids and there is approximately double to three times TC land to British base area.

Which is certainly no where near 37% of Cyprus that Turkey stole for your community and illegally occupies today. :roll:

If the British base areas are 3%, that TC land ownership is like 6-9%.

You posted this map but you are as blind as a ding bat.

Facts old boy, facts.
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Lordo » Tue May 18, 2021 10:39 am

Does anybody have a link to the original 1960 census. I made it 21 full squares for SBAs and 36 full squares to the TC Enclaves. That makes it between one and a half to twice the size. Considering the SBAs are 2.8% that just about puts TC enclaves to 5.6% if it is twice. A hell of a lot closer to 2.5% than 10% which is what DT said.

There is only one way to put this to bed and that is look at the 1960 census assuming that it at least has TC ownership of land in each mixed village either as a whole or individually. Or even 1950 Census when the Brits were in control.

I am prepared to look look at it properly and come to true answer.
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Lordo » Tue May 18, 2021 11:32 am

Maximus wrote:
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This looks very interesting. The Brits have 3%. This map makes it clear by just looking at it how much land TCs had in 1963. Get the old stencil out if you wish?

In the meantime how about what these families are suffering, any sympathy for their pain?


DT wrote:Want you to take a good look at that map. You still going with your 2.5%? I’m seeing 10% minimum if you compare to the British bases


Lordo wrote:I am not one for not accepting when I am wrong. Having another close look at it, I put it down to between same as and twice as much. So that's between 3% and 6%, but nearer to 4.5 to 5%. Certainly not 10% or anywhere near. That would be more than 3 times the SBAs.


You want to take a good look at that map and count those grids Bordo,

In one column tally up the British bases area in another column, then tally up the TC owned land in another.

I counted them grids and there is approximately double to three times TC land to British base area.

Which is certainly no where near 37% of Cyprus that Turkey stole for your community and illegally occupies today. :roll:

If the British base areas are 3%, that TC land ownership is like 6-9%.

You posted this map but you are as blind as a ding bat.

Facts old boy, facts.

I'll give you a fact boy, get your fakin eyes checked, you here?
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Maximus » Tue May 18, 2021 11:38 am

Yes, I am here.

Do you have a split personality disorder or something?

The true answer is, the TC's didnt own much property in Cyprus.

Unfortunately, you have been arguing to the contrary for years.

This is one of the things that makes the current reality and the status quo on the island very unreasonable and unacceptable.
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Get Real! » Tue May 18, 2021 12:44 pm

The Charles de Gaulle has arrived, and a few dozen Rafales are flying across the skies of Cyprus creating one hell of a racket; just flew over my neighborhood!

Methinks they’re looking for Lordo to pay him reparations! :lol:

Hey Lordo, hang one of your white sovraka on a broomstick and wave it so they can find you!

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