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Property and Violence.

Postby Lordo » Sun May 16, 2021 12:10 pm

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-religion-2ba6f064df3964ceafb6e2ff02303d41

This item clearly is in the center of it.

This is what Israeli law causes.

Settler groups say the land was owned by Jews prior to the 1948 war surrounding Israel’s creation.Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim such lands but bars Palestinians from recovering property they lost in the same war, even if they still reside in areas controlled by Israel.


We than have the Mayor of Jerusalem claiming that this case is a legal case and it has been going on for 50 years. How can a person not connected in any way with the properties lay claim to their ownership simply because they are Jewish. Only in Israel right.

This is a similar law also applied in the RoC regarding GCs and TCs. TCs living in Cyprus are also not allowed to claim their properties in the south whilst GCs are allowed to claim their properties in the North.

What is worse is the fact that TCs who left Cyprus before 1974 and are allowed to claim their properties in the south by law are also blocked from claiming their properties. So it seems RoC cannot even adhere to the laws it passes if they apply to the TCs.

But we are not really worried as the properties are only being protected for our own interests because if we get them back there is no knowing what we may do with them is what they are thinking. Right?
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Maximus » Sun May 16, 2021 2:16 pm

You are a hypocrite and full of shit Bordo.

Why do you omit the fact that Turkish settlers have been brought over from Turkey to illegally occupy the homes of GC's in the north of Cyprus?

Before you criticize Israel or Cyprus, make sure your hands are clean.

They are filthy with your support for an illegal state on ethnically cleansed land and the theft of GC property.

Don't go full retard.
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Jery » Sun May 16, 2021 2:37 pm

Lordo wrote:https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-religion-2ba6f064df3964ceafb6e2ff02303d41

This item clearly is in the center of it.

This is what Israeli law causes.

Settler groups say the land was owned by Jews prior to the 1948 war surrounding Israel’s creation.Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim such lands but bars Palestinians from recovering property they lost in the same war, even if they still reside in areas controlled by Israel.


We than have the Mayor of Jerusalem claiming that this case is a legal case and it has been going on for 50 years. How can a person not connected in any way with the properties lay claim to their ownership simply because they are Jewish. Only in Israel right.

This is a similar law also applied in the RoC regarding GCs and TCs. TCs living in Cyprus are also not allowed to claim their properties in the south whilst GCs are allowed to claim their properties in the North.

What is worse is the fact that TCs who left Cyprus before 1974 and are allowed to claim their properties in the south by law are also blocked from claiming their properties. So it seems RoC cannot even adhere to the laws it passes if they apply to the TCs.

But we are not really worried as the properties are only being protected for our own interests because if we get them back there is no knowing what we may do with them is what they are thinking. Right?


"whilst GCs are allowed to claim their properties in the North". You are joking, whilst GCs may be able to claimtheir property in the north they have zero chance of getting it back and wait for ever for compensation because the IPC has effectively ceased to function. How many TCs now live in the south of the ROC, how many GCs now live in the pirate state? Turkey is creating facts on the ground by colonising the "trnc" and now we are told we have to face the "new realities" in future negotiations. Steal somebody's land, breed on it for a generation or two and it becomes yours - that has been Turkeys plan since 1974. Bloody hypocrites!
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 16, 2021 2:59 pm

Lordo wrote:TCs living in Cyprus are also not allowed to claim their properties in the south whilst GCs are allowed to claim their properties in the North.

You are spreading misinformation because the truth is EXACTLY the opposite!

https://dom.com.cy/en/live/digest/turki ... of-cyprus/

But anyway, I think you should be ignored because you’ve proven too many times to be a brainless clown wasting everyone’s time here.
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby miltiades » Sun May 16, 2021 3:18 pm

Just ignore Him, he is unreliable. I'm still waiting for my shush, it's almost 3 years now, it must be burned by now :lol:
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Lordo » Sun May 16, 2021 5:49 pm

The issue here is about a family who were made refugees in 1948 by the formation of Israel.

These six families found themselves as refugees and their homes were destroyed by Israel so they would not be able to return. They lived a refugee life till 1956 by which time they were offered properties in East Jerusalem. In 1967 Israel occupied East Jerusalem and they found themselves under threat once again. This year there were about to be evicted from their homes, not to return the homes to the original property owners but some settlers who have no connection with the properties what so ever and are are about to be given them on account that they are simply Jewish. To compound the injustice they are suffering, they have properties in Israel but are forbidden by law to claim them, not that they are standing but at least they can rebuild their homes.

Now somebody who is serious and wants to debate, tell me a single GC which has these circumstances and I will hand over to each one, one of my properties that the RoC is refusing to give back to me. However I must warn you that RoC does not give up TC properties that easy not even to a GC.

Let us now return to the notion of GCs able to claim their properties back, when I say claim I did not say return, and some have returned but claim and if necessary either accept alternative arrangement or compensation.

Let us look at the facts.

IPC Commission consists of
Mr. Ayfer Erkmen, President,
Mr. Güngör Günkan, Vice-President,
Mrs. Sümer Erkmen, Member
Mr. Erhan Berksel, Member
Mr. Hans C. Kruger, Member
Mr. Daniel Tarschys, Member
Mrs. Saskia Yorucu. Member

Add to that:

The Immovable Property Commission examines claims for restitution, compensation and exchange according to the provisions of the law no 67/2005. Its considerations are based on the principles of bi-zonality and bi-communality which have been common elements of the 1977-1979 High Level Agreements as well as plans for a settlement of the Cyprus Issue prepared by the United Nations. It seeks to satisfy the legitimate claims of property owners without prejudice to the rights of the Turkish Cypriot Community.

As of 10 May 2021, 6,837 applications have been lodged with the Commission and 1,227 of them have been concluded through friendly settlements and 34 through formal hearing.

The Commission has awarded GBP 318,197,662.- to the applicants as compensation. Moreover, it has ruled for
1. exchange and compensation in two cases
2. for restitution in three cases
3. For restitution and compensation in seven cases.
4. In one case it has delivered a decision for restitution after the settlement of Cyprus Issue
5. In one case it has ruled for partial restitution.

The question you need to ask your self is very simple. Why has only 6,837 applications have been made when there are 160,000 refugees from 1974.

Further more one more questions. Where the fuck were you you bastards in 1958 and again in 1963 and 67 and finally again in 1974 when 60,000 TCs were driven from their homes for the 3rd time in one generation, to ask about the properties of the TCs that were taken from and were reduced to an arwa of 2.5% of Cyprus. Too busy fakin moucchoing I reckon.

Now normally I am calm and very nice person if I may say so myself. But there is limit to my patience and the average stupidity of a GC who refuses to see logic.

As to the old man shish kebab, I am afraid you have to wait till we have kosher pork meat. And there you are making use the word pork during Ramazan and making me sin so I will go to hell. But than again I will have you bastards there too and we can discuss the Cyprus Problem to infinitum.

What a way to go.

Now for Maximoui there is an answer he will understand. If you finished your bottle, just but your head down and sleep boy. Aghou aghou boullaruimmu yaonoman do bethimou dje na messe biarzoun o bello-tourgous
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Lordo » Sun May 16, 2021 5:53 pm

miltiades wrote:Just ignore Him, he is unreliable. I'm still waiting for my shush, it's almost 3 years now, it must be burned by now :lol:

Too much wine again I reckon. Dispute a single fact from the original post or any post I make. Unreliable your arse yerogharo.

I am glad though that you had the presence of mind to pass on my good wishes to my Limasolian friend. Was that before or after you got tanked up. I need to know which state of mind you behave reasonably, drunk or undrunk. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Lordo » Sun May 16, 2021 5:59 pm

Jery wrote:
Lordo wrote:https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-religion-2ba6f064df3964ceafb6e2ff02303d41

This item clearly is in the center of it.

This is what Israeli law causes.

Settler groups say the land was owned by Jews prior to the 1948 war surrounding Israel’s creation.Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim such lands but bars Palestinians from recovering property they lost in the same war, even if they still reside in areas controlled by Israel.


We than have the Mayor of Jerusalem claiming that this case is a legal case and it has been going on for 50 years. How can a person not connected in any way with the properties lay claim to their ownership simply because they are Jewish. Only in Israel right.

This is a similar law also applied in the RoC regarding GCs and TCs. TCs living in Cyprus are also not allowed to claim their properties in the south whilst GCs are allowed to claim their properties in the North.

What is worse is the fact that TCs who left Cyprus before 1974 and are allowed to claim their properties in the south by law are also blocked from claiming their properties. So it seems RoC cannot even adhere to the laws it passes if they apply to the TCs.

But we are not really worried as the properties are only being protected for our own interests because if we get them back there is no knowing what we may do with them is what they are thinking. Right?


"whilst GCs are allowed to claim their properties in the North". You are joking, whilst GCs may be able to claimtheir property in the north they have zero chance of getting it back and wait for ever for compensation because the IPC has effectively ceased to function. How many TCs now live in the south of the ROC, how many GCs now live in the pirate state? Turkey is creating facts on the ground by colonising the "trnc" and now we are told we have to face the "new realities" in future negotiations. Steal somebody's land, breed on it for a generation or two and it becomes yours - that has been Turkeys plan since 1974. Bloody hypocrites!


Clearly Risk Management is not a subject my friend as zero chance means nobody would be allowed to return. As the report above clearly sows there are those who have been allowed to return, But this fills me with joy because I understand what it means to be kicked out of your home and have no chance of returning to it which is the situation in the south. Now that is zero chance.

Enjoy.

http://www.parikiaki.com/2019/10/greek-cypriot-rebuilds-home-in-his-native-village-in-the-turkish-occupied-northern-cyprus-decades-after-exodus/

And of course needless to say, you are obviously not aware of the GC policy of dring TCs from Cyprus through fear and economic starvation as well as the 100 Cyprus Lira they were paying TCs to sign a confirmation that if they return they will have no right to return. Of course not. Why would you be aware of this.

I really pity the average GC, I really do. I visualise them as that lost kid, sitting in the middle of the war zone, looking lost, unable to comprehend what is happening all around.
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby miltiades » Sun May 16, 2021 6:01 pm

Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:Just ignore Him, he is unreliable. I'm still waiting for my shush, it's almost 3 years now, it must be burned by now :lol:

Too much wine again I reckon. Dispute a single fact from the original post or any post I make. Unreliable your arse yerogharo.

I am glad though that you had the presence of mind to pass on my good wishes to my Limasolian friend. Was that before or after you got tanked up. I need to know which state of mind you behave reasonably, drunk or undrunk. :lol: :lol:

Re, forget " politics" stick to what you are best for, passing pork kebab as ....halal !! :lol: Still got your ROC passport ?
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Re: Property and Violence.

Postby Lordo » Sun May 16, 2021 6:06 pm

miltiades wrote:
Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:Just ignore Him, he is unreliable. I'm still waiting for my shush, it's almost 3 years now, it must be burned by now :lol:

Too much wine again I reckon. Dispute a single fact from the original post or any post I make. Unreliable your arse yerogharo.

I am glad though that you had the presence of mind to pass on my good wishes to my Limasolian friend. Was that before or after you got tanked up. I need to know which state of mind you behave reasonably, drunk or undrunk. :lol: :lol:

Re, forget " politics" stick to what you are best for, passing pork kebab as ....halal !! :lol: Still got your ROC passport ?

I burnt it when I was protesting in 1974 outside the Cyprus Embassy. :lol: :lol:

Of course I fukking have it, are you fukin drunk again.
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