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Re: Brave Israeli Soldier

Postby Lordo » Tue May 18, 2021 8:47 pm

Maximus wrote:Did you know Hamas provides military training to children, as young as six and indoctrinates them to undertake Islamic Jihad?


You could not make it up.

It also obscures Hamas's curious history. To a certain degree, the Islamist organization whose militant wing has rained rockets on Israel the past few weeks has the Jewish state to thank for its existence. Hamas launched in 1988 in Gaza at the time of the first intifada, or uprising, with a charter now infamous for its anti-Semitism and its refusal to accept the existence of the Israeli state. But for more than a decade prior, Israeli authorities actively enabled its rise.

At the time, Israel's main enemy was the late Yasser Arafat's Fatah party, which formed the heart of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO). Fatah was secular and cast in the mold of other revolutionary, leftist guerrilla movements waging insurgencies elsewhere in the world during the Cold War. The PLO carried out assassinations and kidnappings and, although recognized by neighboring Arab states, was considered a terrorist organization by Israel; PLO operatives in the occupied territories faced brutal repression at the hands of the Israeli security state.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/
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Re: Brave Israeli Soldier

Postby Lordo » Tue May 18, 2021 8:55 pm

Its just incredible how ignorant of the facts the average Eurpean is including some close to us.

Israel created Hamas to destroy Fatah which was a secular left wing organisation no doubt with the help of their friends across the pond.

And of course the Israelis and Americans also created finance and armed the FSA to fight Assad which eventually splintered and gave us ISIL. Never mind the Taliban the Americans armed and trained in the 80s against Russians in Afghanistan.

You could not make it up if you tried.

lost for words really. only a song can do. The picture speaks volumes. Wasn't Achilles Greek?

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Re: Brave Israeli Soldier

Postby Get Real! » Tue May 18, 2021 8:57 pm

Maximus wrote:Did you know Hamas provides military training to children, as young as six and indoctrinates them to undertake Islamic Jihad?

Well you had no qualms when Greece was indoctrinating that little pea under your scalp!

Israel has no qualms when Jewish kids are sent to that military playground where they get to play with armaments and military vehicles!

The Jewish militias terrorizing and ethnically cleansing Palestinians, have no qualms taking their underage sons along who carry their own weapons.

Jewish parents have no qualms taking their kids to a military base where they get to write “cute” messages to Palestinian kids before the rockets and missiles land on the latter’s heads…

http://www.therevival.co.uk/sites/defau ... k=iL9I7AQt
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7760 ... ombs.2.jpg
https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-conten ... 034791.jpg

By now you must’ve started to realize why I consider you one of the biggest jerks to have ever graced this forum, Maximus!
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Re: Brave Israeli Soldier

Postby Maximus » Tue May 18, 2021 9:40 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:Did you know Hamas provides military training to children, as young as six and indoctrinates them to undertake Islamic Jihad?

Well you had no qualms when Greece was indoctrinating that little pea under your scalp!

Israel has no qualms when Jewish kids are sent to that military playground where they get to play with armaments and military vehicles!

The Jewish militias terrorizing and ethnically cleansing Palestinians, have no qualms taking their underage sons along who carry their own weapons.

Jewish parents have no qualms taking their kids to a military base where they get to write “cute” messages to Palestinian kids before the rockets and missiles land on the latter’s heads…

http://www.therevival.co.uk/sites/defau ... k=iL9I7AQt
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7760 ... ombs.2.jpg
https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-conten ... 034791.jpg

By now you must’ve started to realize why I consider you one of the biggest jerks to have ever graced this forum, Maximus!


:roll:

I dont give a ... what you think of me.
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Re: Brave Israeli Soldier

Postby Get Real! » Tue May 18, 2021 11:22 pm

Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:Did you know Hamas provides military training to children, as young as six and indoctrinates them to undertake Islamic Jihad?

Well you had no qualms when Greece was indoctrinating that little pea under your scalp!

Israel has no qualms when Jewish kids are sent to that military playground where they get to play with armaments and military vehicles!

The Jewish militias terrorizing and ethnically cleansing Palestinians, have no qualms taking their underage sons along who carry their own weapons.

Jewish parents have no qualms taking their kids to a military base where they get to write “cute” messages to Palestinian kids before the rockets and missiles land on the latter’s heads…

http://www.therevival.co.uk/sites/defau ... k=iL9I7AQt
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7760 ... ombs.2.jpg
https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-conten ... 034791.jpg

By now you must’ve started to realize why I consider you one of the biggest jerks to have ever graced this forum, Maximus!

:roll:

I dont give a ... what you think of me.

Well that’s typical of a shameless hypocrite!

Anything else you want to enlighten us with, Sherlock?
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Re: Brave Israeli Soldier

Postby DT. » Wed May 19, 2021 12:42 am

Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:If only both sides rejected the bullshit of religion and embraced HUMANITY.

How can you use the word both sides. When on one side we have Israel with tanks, warplanes and boats and drones firing into the civilians and the other side we have children throwing stones and Hamas who are firing rockets that mostly end up nowhere.

Casualties Israel - 12 people, including two children, have been killed,
Casualties Israel - At least 212 people, including almost 100 women and children, have been killed in Gaza, according to its health ministry.


One death is a tragedy but at least make an effort to see what has been going on recently. You have to be fuckin heartless not to see how one sides this is. Or a robot, but I guess one can also be a little too high on a little of the red stuff too.


You know what? You can use any part of the just or unjust propaganda you’re side has spat out on the cyprob. Fact is at the end of the day regardless of justification, you and your socialist values need to sit here day in day out and explain why it’s right that a 90m country invaded and occupied a defenseless betrayed population of civilians. You, a socialist, humanist individual need to come here and say every day that the Turks rightly invaded because the GC’s deserved it.

Now please go ahead and complain about the unjust fight the Palestinians are experiencing. I think the worst thing that a tc like you can feel is that they’re protected by the stronger more aggressive more expansionist power. The rest of the world has moved on. You’re under the erdogan sphere of influence.

Do please let me know how that fits in your brain.
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Re: Brave Israeli Soldier

Postby Maximus » Wed May 19, 2021 1:32 am

Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:Did you know Hamas provides military training to children, as young as six and indoctrinates them to undertake Islamic Jihad?

Well you had no qualms when Greece was indoctrinating that little pea under your scalp!

Israel has no qualms when Jewish kids are sent to that military playground where they get to play with armaments and military vehicles!

The Jewish militias terrorizing and ethnically cleansing Palestinians, have no qualms taking their underage sons along who carry their own weapons.

Jewish parents have no qualms taking their kids to a military base where they get to write “cute” messages to Palestinian kids before the rockets and missiles land on the latter’s heads…

http://www.therevival.co.uk/sites/defau ... k=iL9I7AQt
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7760 ... ombs.2.jpg
https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-conten ... 034791.jpg

By now you must’ve started to realize why I consider you one of the biggest jerks to have ever graced this forum, Maximus!

:roll:

I dont give a ... what you think of me.

Well that’s typical of a shameless hypocrite!

Anything else you want to enlighten us with, Sherlock?


Your opinion of me is just not important that I need to start having such realizations about what you think of me.

Its you that needs to enlighten us and substantiate these accusations, :?
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Re: Brave Israeli Soldier

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 19, 2021 6:02 am

Lordo wrote:No not excused at all. If you cannot see the terror in the child's face you are fuckin blind you stupid wombat.


Now why wouldn't their be terror on the child's face? That is completely normal. The child would have seen traumatic things. War is friggin traumatic for everyone.

I would say the look on the Israeli Soldier's face might not be a good sight either.

It depends what they both saw and experienced.

The picture doesn't say much to me other than the child has been traumatized.

Here is a fact for you. Soldiers don't normally torture or harrass 6 year old children. Certainly not impossible, but it's very doubtful the Israeli Soldier tried to harm this boy. What is a much more likely scenario is that the IDF saw this kid and that his life was in danger for whatever from either IDF operations or from Hamaz.

So they basically tried to remove the kid from the area not to harm him but quite possibly save his life.

It wouldn't matter which soldiers they were. If you see a 6 year old boy and girl, you do whatever you can to help them no matter who they are.

That is not to say that war crimes don't occur. They certainly do. And Hamaz commit more by using human shields. IDF not immune either. But I doubt the Israeli soldier wanted to harm the boy. More like get him out the way. Or he was injured and they nursed him at their Field Nursing Station which they would set up.
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Re: Brave Israeli Soldier

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 19, 2021 6:12 am

Maximus wrote:Did you know Hamas provides military training to children, as young as six and indoctrinates them to undertake Islamic Jihad?


Yes and the israeli's wouldn't just walk up[ to any kid in case they are strapped to bombs. Yes this does happen. And this is 100% a war crime to do this to a child.

Hamaz do strap suicide bombs to children. The ugliness of war. Children have been used in warfare for ages.

So yeh, Israeli soldiers would point guns to children and that is 1000% going to be traumatic for any kid too, but doubtful they would just shoot the kid or kill him/her.

They would be more likely to want to remove them from the area more so to save the kid.
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Re: Brave Israeli Soldier

Postby Paphitis » Wed May 19, 2021 6:17 am

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:Just in case what one looks like, I thought I can be of some help to show you what they look like. All in the name of defending their people which means anything is justified obviously.


Excuse me, but what is the context of this photo?

I just see an Israeli Soldier with a child.

It could be that the soldier is actually protecting the child or removing the child from some danger.

The child also appears to be injured with a heavily bandaged arm. Who bandaged his arm?

We really do not know what has happened here.


That Israeli soldier was trying to "arrest" the boy, who was eleven at the time.

He was in a crowd of activists / protesters and was probably throwing stones at the soldiers.

https://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/30/midd ... index.html


Hence why I asked for the context. there is a story behind every photo. And we need to know the truth.

And at the end of the day, the boy will be released. Can't exactly hold an 11 year old as a prisoner. Neither is the boy a threat. he threw rocks. Well ok no worries. I'm sure the IDF have bigger worries than an 11 year old boy throwing a couple of stones.

The insinuation was that the IDF have mistreated the boy. Highly doubtful they would mistreat him or harm him.
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