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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:01 pm

Get Real! wrote:I’ve noticed that those of you who have this overwhelming fascination with “science” also happen to be those who never went to uni!

It basically stems from a profound respect you seem to have for those who academically achieved what you never got the chance to for whatever reason, and you now seem to think that uni-graduates are some kind of demi-Gods who have the potential to solve all problems!

Well as one of those “demi-Gods” you so admire, I have some news for you:

In my experience at two different universities, I witnessed mass-cheating during semester exams, and I had people who paid me cash to do their assignments so they could get through to the next unit.

My biggest challenge was changing the assignments (there were times when I had 3-4 to do) so that the lecturer wouldn’t recognize they all came from the same source!

I was poor, had a young wife and a toddler and I needed the cash... while they were young men from wealthy families who thought nothing of paying $50..75 bucks to buy a solution.

These are some of the “great scientists” you so admire today; who are no doubt enjoying great careers by now after 35+ years in some industry.

So this is where we basically differ… you look at them with admiration and I look at them and want to puke!

And here is Lordo today waiting for these “scientists” to give him the answers to the cosmos and lead him to God! :roll: :lol:


Nooooooo I am not wating to be led to god you silly sod. I told you I have no need to worship anything.

I wonder how you came to my conclusion that I did not go to the university? Would you know what my qualifications are for instance? Like hell you do.

So you came across some lazy idiotic people who cheated their way into some sort of a qualification. And you generalise that we admire them.
So are you saying that all the scientists are like them and cannot be trusted?

Scientists continually disagree with each other on theory and till it can be proven one way or another it is not agreed. That is healthy.
Where as you have decided to worship a god not needing how or anything else. But you demand the proof from science. Well about 100 years ago man first flew an aeroplane. Who knows where we will be in another hundred years. Stop worshipping stupidity that was decided thousands of years ago with the condition that you cannot challenge it and if you do you deserve to die.

One last thing, the idea of god has not been hijacked by religion, it belongs to them, they created it to explain things they do not understand. if you have another view different to the view of the church, you better come up with another name, but you really are being so simple.
If you cannot see that it is gravity that forms stars and planets and it is also gravity that keeps us going in two different levels. I feel sorry for you.

Why did you have to go to two different universities then?
Let me guess you did your masters in another uni. But that’s not possible you do not come across as somebody with masters in anything except master debating.

So the second-choice left is you dropped out perhaps financial difficulties. If that was the case, you have my sympathies. On the other hand, I was very lucky, I was one of those students who had no financial worries going through my education, not only did my father pay for my education he also paid for siblings education to despite losing land to you swine in 1974.
I also suspect you do not have a uni degree otherwise you would not be wasting your time trying to write such a simple program that is readily available free of charge on the internet. But that’s a hunch. I have no proof.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:08 pm

Maximus wrote:God and religion are mutually exclusive.

You dont have to be religious to believe in God.

Although those that are religious always believe in God.

You can believe in Science as well as God.

Science did not invent gravity, energy, pressure and force etc....

Science didnt invent the maths and physics to enable planes to fly and parachutes to work.

Something else is responsible for that.

Scientists just discovered and explained it.

So here you are accepting a word the religous people created to have power over their flock and you are telling me you do not believe in the same god. So you are so fuckin lazy you are unable look at what you believe in give it a name and explain it. If i was in charge of religion I would sue you for using my brand.

You have to understand the difference between invention and discovery. Gravity protons and electrons are already there and eventually mankind discovered them. They than used what they dicovered to invent things. it really is not that hard to understand.

Whats worse aspect is this. Universities invent new drugs for instance and corporation buy the invention very cheaply from the universities and make billions.

If you want to undertand what is wrong with the world, follow the money my dear boy.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:22 pm

Just be careful Lordo, lest gravity draws you by the balls into the abyss! :lol:
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Re: Is there god

Postby Cap » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:07 pm

I'm not heavily religious.

One thing that blows my mind.
How did Israel survive those wars without the hand of God?
Out gunned, out manned, out planed, by multiple enemies with superior firepower who were supplied and funded by a Russian Super Power like the world has never known.
Only the united States supported Israel with military assistance, without a single American soldier stepping on Israeli territory.

1948 Arab–Israeli War.....vs Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen. Israeli victory.
1967 Six-Day War..........vs Egypt, Syria, Jordan, iraq. Israeli Victory.
1973 Yom Kippur war......vs Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Tunisia, Morocco, Cuba, Soviet Union. Israeli military victory

Incredible.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:12 pm

Cap wrote:I'm not heavily religious.

One thing that blows my mind.
How did Israel survive those wars without the hand of God?
Out gunned, out manned, out planed, by multiple enemies with superior firepower who were supplied and funded by a Russian Super Power like the world has never known.
Only the united States supported Israel with military assistance, without a single American soldier stepping on Israeli territory.

1948 Arab–Israeli War.....vs Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen. Israeli victory.
1967 Six-Day War..........vs Egypt, Syria, Jordan, iraq. Israeli Victory.
1973 Yom Kippur war......vs Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Tunisia, Morocco, Cuba, Soviet Union. Israeli military victory

Incredible.

Shall I explain or shall I leave you to continue to worship them.

Oh ok I feel obliged to explain.

1948, they had UK backing them as well as Jewish finance from almost every western country in the world.

From then on there is small insignificant small country backing them called little ol united states of america are you really that oblivious to the world events? Despite this incident. I wonder if you are aware of this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident



Not a single resolution in the UN is allowed to pass against anything Israel does no matter how it breaks international law. Now that is some power right?
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Re: Is there god

Postby Cap » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:15 pm

Lordo wrote:
Cap wrote:I'm not heavily religious.

One thing that blows my mind.
How did Israel survive those wars without the hand of God?
Out gunned, out manned, out planed, by multiple enemies with superior firepower who were supplied and funded by a Russian Super Power like the world has never known.
Only the united States supported Israel with military assistance, without a single American soldier stepping on Israeli territory.

1948 Arab–Israeli War.....vs Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen. Israeli victory.
1967 Six-Day War..........vs Egypt, Syria, Jordan, iraq. Israeli Victory.
1973 Yom Kippur war......vs Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Tunisia, Morocco, Cuba, Soviet Union. Israeli military victory

Incredible.

Shall I explain or shall I leave you to continue to worship them.

Oh ok I feel obliged to explain.

1948, they had UK backing them. From then there is small insignificant small country backing them called little ol united states of america are you really that oblivious to the world events?


Not convinced in the least lordo.
In fact, with a comment like that i'm even more pro Israel.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:20 pm

Cap wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Cap wrote:I'm not heavily religious.

One thing that blows my mind.
How did Israel survive those wars without the hand of God?
Out gunned, out manned, out planed, by multiple enemies with superior firepower who were supplied and funded by a Russian Super Power like the world has never known.
Only the united States supported Israel with military assistance, without a single American soldier stepping on Israeli territory.

1948 Arab–Israeli War.....vs Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen. Israeli victory.
1967 Six-Day War..........vs Egypt, Syria, Jordan, iraq. Israeli Victory.
1973 Yom Kippur war......vs Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Tunisia, Morocco, Cuba, Soviet Union. Israeli military victory

Incredible.

Shall I explain or shall I leave you to continue to worship them.

Oh ok I feel obliged to explain.

1948, they had UK backing them. From then there is small insignificant small country backing them called little ol united states of america are you really that oblivious to the world events?


Not convinced in the least lordo.
In fact, with a comment like that i'm even more pro Israel.

There is an old saying once you are covered in shit above your head, what difference will it make if you have sunk a bit more.

Are you aware why not a single resolution against Israel passes in the UN and who vetos them? or are you not even aware of that?
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Re: Is there god

Postby Maximus » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:24 pm

Lordo wrote:
Maximus wrote:God and religion are mutually exclusive.

You dont have to be religious to believe in God.

Although those that are religious always believe in God.

You can believe in Science as well as God.

Science did not invent gravity, energy, pressure and force etc....

Science didnt invent the maths and physics to enable planes to fly and parachutes to work.

Something else is responsible for that.

Scientists just discovered and explained it.

So here you are accepting a word the religous people created to have power over their flock and you are telling me you do not believe in the same god. So you are so fuckin lazy you are unable look at what you believe in give it a name and explain it. If i was in charge of religion I would sue you for using my brand.

You have to understand the difference between invention and discovery. Gravity protons and electrons are already there and eventually mankind discovered them. They than used what they dicovered to invent things. it really is not that hard to understand.

Whats worse aspect is this. Universities invent new drugs for instance and corporation buy the invention very cheaply from the universities and make billions.

If you want to undertand what is wrong with the world, follow the money my dear boy.


I don't understand what you are talking about at this point and I dont really care either.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Cap » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:25 pm

You crazy?
UN Resolutions? If Israel had to abide with UN resolutions they'd be dead.
Turkey doesn't abide by UN resolutions against Kurdistan, Cyprus, Armenia, why should Israel?

Turkey is offensive
Israel is defensive.

Know the difference.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:56 pm

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Maximus wrote:God and religion are mutually exclusive.

You dont have to be religious to believe in God.

Although those that are religious always believe in God.

You can believe in Science as well as God.

Science did not invent gravity, energy, pressure and force etc....

Science didnt invent the maths and physics to enable planes to fly and parachutes to work.

Something else is responsible for that.

Scientists just discovered and explained it.

So here you are accepting a word the religous people created to have power over their flock and you are telling me you do not believe in the same god. So you are so fuckin lazy you are unable look at what you believe in give it a name and explain it. If i was in charge of religion I would sue you for using my brand.

You have to understand the difference between invention and discovery. Gravity protons and electrons are already there and eventually mankind discovered them. They than used what they dicovered to invent things. it really is not that hard to understand.

Whats worse aspect is this. Universities invent new drugs for instance and corporation buy the invention very cheaply from the universities and make billions.

If you want to undertand what is wrong with the world, follow the money my dear boy.


I don't understand what you are talking about at this point and I dont really care either.

You know what i am not surprised you don't understand but an ordinary human being would ask question so theycan undersstand, but not you you choose to sa=tay ignorant. Thats ok too.
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