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Re: La La Land

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:54 am

repulsewarrior wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/more-than-100-senior-nhs-staff-abandoned-at-deserted-hospital/ar-AA1pniPj

...Doctors in Cyprus who feel their expertise is being wasted, want to return home

There has been a change of government but not of policy. In reality 100 Medical People will not make that much difference when 100,000 is needed. But what it shows is the government callas approach to ordinary people and their needs, They are prepared to allow the corporations to scam the public, and give Ukraine what ever they need but when it comes to pensioners they can treat them with total contempt. They seem to repeat the line that they have found 22 billion black hole and they have to close it. Well 1.2 billion they are getting from stopping the winter fuel allowance hardly going to make any difference.

Their new mantra refers to working people. They must not be taxed. Well there are many groups in this category including millionaires and billionaires. I would not classify anybody who earn above 50K a year as in need of help and in fact it is time they contributed to the problem a little more. To take away the money from those who are on a basic state pension of 11.5K with no other income is criminal. Add to that the fact that there is a form with 243 questions on it to claim the pension credit.
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Re: La La Land

Postby Kikapu » Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:31 pm

Lordo wrote:This is getting more curious by the minute.

When the Bayesian sank around 4 a.m. on Aug. 19, the waters in its area, about half a mile off the Sicilian port of Porticello, were transformed by an extremely sudden and violent storm, according to fishermen, a captain in the area and meteorologists.

But what kind of storm is still a mystery, compounded by the fact that a sailing schooner anchored nearby did not have its own disaster. Also unclear is whether the crew was aware that the Italian authorities had issued general warnings about bad weather the night before.

Karsten Börner, the captain of the nearby passenger ship, said he’d had to steady his ship during “really violent” winds. During the storm, he said, the Bayesian seemed to disappear behind his ship.


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/25/world/europe/bayesian-yacht-investigation.html

Add to that the fact that
The co-defendant of technology tycoon Mike Lynch in his US fraud trial over selling his Cambridge company to Hewlett-Packard (HP) has died after being hit by a car on Saturday, his lawyer has said. It comes as Mr Lynch was confirmed as one of the six tourists missing on Monday after the Bayesian luxury yacht sank in a tornado off the coast of Sicily.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/missing-mike-lynch-s-co-defendant-in-cambridge-company-fraud-trial-killed-in-car-crash/ar-AA1p5SRC?ocid=BingNewsSerp

The plot thickens


Let me give you my knowledge in sailing as to why the Bayesian sank when other boats in the vicinity did not.

First of all, not all boats are built the same, just like anything else built in the world.

Many reports of the sinking have given partial reasons as to why the boat sunk, but not the complete reason as to why it sunk and no one has said anything what created the chain of events that led to the boat sinking. I will do it for you. Eventually, this will be realized in the final report of the sinking of this boat. This event is like an air accident where chain of event happens, that the holes in the “Swiss Cheese” model all line up leading to the accident.

There are plenty of faults to go around, from the design of the boat to the lack of understanding by the owners as to what is not safe on a boat. The owners rely on the professional crew to make sure nothing goes wrong while they enjoy the comforts of home on their mega boats with the least amount of disturbances by the crew. The owners and their guests are not sailors by and large, unless we are talking about Oracle’s Larry Ellison.

It appears that Bayesian was anchored in waters at 20-30m depth of water, which explained why 6 meters of her 10m keel was retracted. This would not cause the boat to capsize as long as the boat is pointing into the wind on anchor, however, my guess is, when the storm started and the winds and water started to rise and due to a large windage areas on Bayesian, she started to drag her anchor, drifting to deeper waters of about 50 meters depth. What no one talked about so far is, when the anchor drags, the boat is no longer points into the wind, but becomes abeam to the wind, which means the winds and waves are coming from the Port or the Starboard side. This is when things start to go wrong very quickly. With the huge tall and wide mast is now getting hit by the wind broadside along with the huge and wide main boom, and the keel retracted, Bayesian will just lean over effortlessly until the mast touches the water, all awhile water entering into the boat in large volumes from the gangways, port holes and open panels. She would sink in minutes.

The crew could have done few things ahead of time to prevent this tragedy. They should have had the engine running in case the anchor dragged, set a second anchor and increased the anchor chain scope from 7 to 1 ratio to the depth of the water, to perhaps 10 to 1 scope. Have extra persons on deck to help. Not surprising that most of the crew survived, because they the boats lay out and that most of the guests died, because they were just at home away from home. Most probably had too much to drink from the night before’s celebrations in winning their court case.

As for the co-dependent getting killed on land a day earlier, just bad luck really.
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Re: La La Land

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:45 pm

Thanks for that.
It will be an interesting report but judging by what is going on, the captain and a few other's in the crew are about to face possible charges.
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Re: La La Land

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:15 pm

...not to mention that the engine room escape hatch was open.
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Re: La La Land

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:25 pm

It just does not make any sense. To buy such a fast boat and use it anchored just outside the port is just not logical. It's like buying a Ferrari and parking it outside in the street where it can be attacked by all sort of undesirables.

Greed is the ultimate driver in this. They could have hired the best hotel in the most desirable location and have a good old singsong. Instead they bought a one way ticket to the other side.
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Re: La La Land

Postby Lordo » Fri Aug 30, 2024 1:31 am

You have to have laugh otherwise you will cry. Smoggy says British People never voted for mass migration and yet they were in government for 14 years and took migration from a couple of hundred thousand to 1 million. I would say they knew exactly what they were voting for, just like Brexit.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/the-british-people-never-voted-for-mass-migration-and-so-it-s-time-to-bring-it-under-close-control-at-last-says-jacob-rees-mogg/ar-AA1pFGtq?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=c1b62236e75645e1adba111e5dcda4f0&ei=94

I can feel a song coming along.

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Re: La La Land

Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 30, 2024 6:02 pm

Lordo wrote:Thanks for that.
It will be an interesting report but judging by what is going on, the captain and a few other's in the crew are about to face possible charges.


Bottom line is, had the keel was kept fully extended whilst at anchor or at deeper waters, Bayesian would have never sunk regardless whether she dragged her anchor or not and regardless whether some of her ports were open during the storm as long as the engine room was functioning and her pumps were working, and any small amount of water entering the boat’s bilges would have been pumped out automatically without anyone getting their feet wet. This will be the sole negligence of the captain, the first officer and the engineer.
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Re: La La Land

Postby Lordo » Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:37 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:Thanks for that.
It will be an interesting report but judging by what is going on, the captain and a few other's in the crew are about to face possible charges.


Bottom line is, had the keel was kept fully extended whilst at anchor or at deeper waters, Bayesian would have never sunk regardless whether she dragged her anchor or not and regardless whether some of her ports were open during the storm as long as the engine room was functioning and her pumps were working, and any small amount of water entering the boat’s bilges would have been pumped out automatically without anyone getting their feet wet. This will be the sole negligence of the captain, the first officer and the engineer.

Very interesting. Look forward to the report to see what really went on. It may even have been sabotaged. Who knows? There was over 8 billion involved.
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Re: La La Land

Postby Lordo » Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:52 pm

It seems stupidity has no bounds. What was he thinking?

A “highly paid” nuclear power plant worker who laughed as he took part in violent scenes outside a mosque has been jailed.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsmanchester/highly-paid-power-plant-worker-laughed-as-he-launched-traffic-cone-at-police/ar-AA1pJ6ey?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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Re: La La Land

Postby Lordo » Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:23 pm

What a world we live in. Back in mid 70s you could go to a concert for 7.50 to see Led Zeppelin. In them days ordinary shop workers wages were about 34 pounds a week. Compare that Oasis re-union concert at where price is between 75 to 500 pounds.

This is what happens when you blood suckers into the process of selling tickets. You cannot get tickets from anywhere else.

Not that Oasis is comparable to Led Zeppelin in anyway.

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