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[Paphitis]

Announcement to occur in a few minutes. Now we are hearing that France will be attending the summit also ands they will be part of the new Defence and Security arrangement. Possible announcement that France will have a base in Australia to address the situation with Chy-na

This is a new era it appears.

If France joins the “AUKUS” group, will it then become “FAUKUS” or “FUKUSA”?

That would be a great outcome.

I feel sorry for France. It’s not good upsetting a good friend. So if France joins and gets somekind of win or a cloud with silver lining, then great.

I think our friendship is too strong though not to endure this hiccup. Plus the 2 countries need each other. Australia needs France as it’s a strong country with a presence in the Pacific. France needs Australua because it is at close proximity to many French territories in the Pacific,

So, let them join I say. And who cares about the acronym…

[Paphitis]

No doubt the Americans are looking at global partnerships in the Asia Pacific mainly aimed at containing the Chy-nese menace.

Mainly using Australia, Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea in its plans, with a presence from the US and UK. Asia Pacific is where its all happening now.

[Paphitis]

Oh dear, the tsunami of salt keeps getting better and better.

Sheep shagger New Zealand PM, Mrs Ed, just said she is against this. How wonderful! My day keeps getting better and better!

Mrs Ed provides an even better taste to the delicious salt, with a hint of NZ lamb. So yum!

So many traitorous bolsheviks getting pissed off which is just the way we like it.

Provides so much encouragment to eventually go all the way with Nuclear ICBMs.

Pissing off France is no good. Taste is awful. But pissing off Aussie Greenies, Pootin, Chy-na, and NZ PM Mrs Ed is soooo good!

[Pyrpolizer]

You stupid idiot, you seem to derive pleasue out of actions which contribute to destroying the earth. Not even a pig wil lshit in the sty it sleeps in gavole. What kind ao stupid cunts live in Austrtalia? I guess the criminal element shines thought.

France seems to be very upset about thispact, but hey you should be joyful as the Europeans were when they heard Reagan saya there is no problem firing the short range nuclear missiles at Russia from Europe once they are there.

The French project was plagued with problems. They got 2 billion from the allocated 90 billion. But there maybe a few hundred million in contractual fines.

I’m sure DNSS are very upset but that’s business.

On a bilateral level, Australia and France have a great friendship and alliance. I knew Australia was looking for an out because they regretted not going down the nuclear path. These nuclear submarines will be better, more capable and more potent and still cost less.

As for France, Macron and Morrison are believed to be good friends. As in friends on a personal level. France has always been good to Australia the last few years. Macron has been instrumental in getting Australia Associate membership into NATO. He always made a point of personally inviting Sustralia to all security summits.

That won’t change as there is a defence pact where the Australian Navy is tasked with patrolling French EEZ interests and also French Territorial Seas in the Pacific. Sometimes with other French Navy ships but most of the time unilaterally as France might not have assets in the Pacific.

So basically, France is using Australian Naval presence in the Pacific to protect French interests.

I do not like the fact that France may be hard done by. We, Australia as a country do not want to harm or disadvantage France which is considered an extremely important ally and friend.

But Australia has to do the right thing for itself and IPT for the best submarine solution which will provide Australua with the best outcomes and capability and there is no doubt that this deal with the US and UK does that, propelling our wonderful country into the nuclear age and sending the strongest possible message to Chy-na and other billigerants around the world, such as North Korea and Iran.

There will be other spin offs with this nuclear industry as well, such as Nuclear Fusion Energy bringing our emissions down to nett zero very quickly.

If it were like that the whole world would turn Nuclear. Perhaps you may not know that Nuclear fussion is one of the dirtiest reactions ever. Radioactivity may penetrate a 10 meter solid lead wall. As for the nuclear waste, that'sa huge problem in itself. Let aside the accidents that may happen at nuclear generators: a single leaking valve will contaminate the whole sub turning 100s of sailors to moribunds. There are other problems too, the nuclear fussion power starts very high and as time passes is diminishes and diminishes. Nuclear rods have to be replaced, no human can do that, instead it's done using robots. Unexpected problems may arise - like deformation of the tubes and the whole nuclear engine has to be replaced and this takes months...
Besides nuclear subs are not undetectable as you may think, they use tons of sea water to cool down the nuclear generator, and this hot water becomes their moving tail, forming thermally detectable steams on the surface


Don’t understand the greenies to be honest. Not many people do. But they are funny as I said and provided great entertainment for Australian families. They are kind of our version of Benny Hill.

[Paphitis]

You stupid idiot, you seem to derive pleasue out of actions which contribute to destroying the earth. Not even a pig wil lshit in the sty it sleeps in gavole. What kind ao stupid cunts live in Austrtalia? I guess the criminal element shines thought.

France seems to be very upset about thispact, but hey you should be joyful as the Europeans were when they heard Reagan saya there is no problem firing the short range nuclear missiles at Russia from Europe once they are there.

The French project was plagued with problems. They got 2 billion from the allocated 90 billion. But there maybe a few hundred million in contractual fines.

I’m sure DNSS are very upset but that’s business.

On a bilateral level, Australia and France have a great friendship and alliance. I knew Australia was looking for an out because they regretted not going down the nuclear path. These nuclear submarines will be better, more capable and more potent and still cost less.

As for France, Macron and Morrison are believed to be good friends. As in friends on a personal level. France has always been good to Australia the last few years. Macron has been instrumental in getting Australia Associate membership into NATO. He always made a point of personally inviting Sustralia to all security summits.

That won’t change as there is a defence pact where the Australian Navy is tasked with patrolling French EEZ interests and also French Territorial Seas in the Pacific. Sometimes with other French Navy ships but most of the time unilaterally as France might not have assets in the Pacific.

So basically, France is using Australian Naval presence in the Pacific to protect French interests.

I do not like the fact that France may be hard done by. We, Australia as a country do not want to harm or disadvantage France which is considered an extremely important ally and friend.

But Australia has to do the right thing for itself and IPT for the best submarine solution which will provide Australua with the best outcomes and capability and there is no doubt that this deal with the US and UK does that, propelling our wonderful country into the nuclear age and sending the strongest possible message to Chy-na and other billigerants around the world, such as North Korea and Iran.

There will be other spin offs with this nuclear industry as well, such as Nuclear Fusion Energy bringing our emissions down to nett zero very quickly.

If it were like that the whole world would turn Nuclear. Perhaps you may not know that Nuclear fussion is one of the dirtiest reactions ever. Radioactivity may penetrate a 10 meter solid lead wall. As for the nuclear waste, that'sa huge problem in itself. Let aside the accidents that may happen at nuclear generators: a single leaking valve will contaminate the whole sub turning 100s of sailors to moribunds. There are other problems too, the nuclear fussion power starts very high and as time passes is diminishes and diminishes. Nuclear rods have to be replaced, no human can do that, instead it's done using robots. Unexpected problems may arise - like deformation of the tubes and the whole nuclear engine has to be replaced and this takes months...
Besides nuclear subs are not undetectable as you may think, they use tons of sea water to cool down the nuclear generator, and this hot water becomes their moving tail, forming thermally detectable steams on the surface


Don’t understand the greenies to be honest. Not many people do. But they are funny as I said and provided great entertainment for Australian families. They are kind of our version of Benny Hill.

It's not dirty. It's the cleanest reliable base load fuel available today. Far more cleaner than coal, oil, and gas.

Plus, we already mine uranium and yellow cake. so we have this energy source evailable to us on tap. I think we are the biggest supplier in the world.

A single fuel rod can power a submarine for years, before needing to be replaced. The only issue after that is storing it safely. And in Australia, we have so much land to be able to do that a few kilometers under ground and away from humans, inside massive concrete bunkers. And a single fuel rod is smaller than a tiny Vee Dub car. It's actually amazing the ammount of energy these rods can expend propelling thousands of tonnes of steel under water at a massive 55km/hr or more.

As for Nuclear Energy, only a few countries have the know how to be able to do it. Cyprus isn't one of them. And thank God for that because you imbeciles will turn Cyprus into a giant crater judging by what you did a few years ago at your biggest pwer plant.

Let me make it abundantly very clear. You guys shouldn't even be driving cars let alone having a Nuclear Power plant.

You leave those things to countries who know what they are doing please!

[Pyrpolizer]

It's not dirty. It's the cleanest reliable base load fuel available today. Far more cleaner than coal, oil, and gas.

If you define dirty as CO2 emmission, yes certainly nuclear is not dirty at all, if you define it as radioactivity and not cleanable contamination of whole countries then it's shit ^10.

Plus, we already mine uranium and yellow cake. so we have this energy source evailable to us on tap. I think we are the biggest supplier in the world.

A single fuel rod can power a submarine for years, before needing to be replaced. The only issue after that is storing it safely. And in Australia, we have so much land to be able to do that a few kilometers under ground and away from humans, inside massive concrete bunkers. And a single fuel rod is smaller than a tiny Vee Dub car. It's actually amazing the ammount of energy these rods can expend propelling thousands of tonnes of steel under water at a massive 55km/hr or more.


As for Nuclear Energy, only a few countries have the know how to be able to do it. Cyprus isn't one of them. And thank God for that because you imbeciles will turn Cyprus into a giant crater judging by what you did a few years ago at your biggest pwer plant.

Let me make it abundantly very clear. You guys shouldn't even be driving cars let alone having a Nuclear Power plant.

You leave those things to countries who know what they are doing please!

You can't imagine how much of an idiot you come across imagining that you are any different from any Cypriot. Siding with the big powers does not make you any different.
The truth is you are nothing more than a Hazo-Paphitoui born with 100% pure genes from Yeroshipou.

I wonder what the rest of the Australian cypriots in this forum think of you, Boomerang comes to my mind, BirKibrisli, humanist..

I am actually anxious to see you getting that job in the US. It will only take the Americans a couple of weeks to straighten you out.

[Paphitis]

It's not dirty. It's the cleanest reliable base load fuel available today. Far more cleaner than coal, oil, and gas.

If you define dirty as CO2 emmission, yes certainly nuclear is not dirty at all, if you define it as radioactivity and not cleanable contamination of whole countries then it's shit ^10.

Plus, we already mine uranium and yellow cake. so we have this energy source evailable to us on tap. I think we are the biggest supplier in the world.

A single fuel rod can power a submarine for years, before needing to be replaced. The only issue after that is storing it safely. And in Australia, we have so much land to be able to do that a few kilometers under ground and away from humans, inside massive concrete bunkers. And a single fuel rod is smaller than a tiny Vee Dub car. It's actually amazing the ammount of energy these rods can expend propelling thousands of tonnes of steel under water at a massive 55km/hr or more.


As for Nuclear Energy, only a few countries have the know how to be able to do it. Cyprus isn't one of them. And thank God for that because you imbeciles will turn Cyprus into a giant crater judging by what you did a few years ago at your biggest pwer plant.

Let me make it abundantly very clear. You guys shouldn't even be driving cars let alone having a Nuclear Power plant.

You leave those things to countries who know what they are doing please!

You can't imagine how much of an idiot you come across imagining that you are any different from any Cypriot. Siding with the big powers does not make you any different.
The truth is you are nothing more than a Hazo-Paphitoui born with 100% pure genes from Yeroshipou.

I wonder what the rest of the Australian cypriots in this forum think of you, Boomerang comes to my mind, BirKibrisli, humanist..

I am actually anxious to see you getting that job in the US. It will only take the Americans a couple of weeks to straighten you out.

I totally disagree.

Radiation isn’t contaminating at all and it is controlled and contained in massive cells. The atmosphere is not exposed to radiation unless there is an accident or leak.

Plus, we have it in the ground here in Australia. Even when you travel through the outback, you just need to scratch the surface and you can find small unprocessed deposits. It’s actually measurable.

The uranium is mined, collected and they use it to make fuel rods. It’s very safe and extremely clean and a cheap and reliable source of energy. As a matter of fact, it is the most viable green energy.

In regards to submarines, nuclear propulsion is advantageous because the subs are quiet, can stay submerged for 90 plus days, and travel at high speed with high endurance. They are faster than conventional subs.

And you can imagine what it means to stay submerged for months at a time. It means these things can be anywhere, anytime, launching missiles against other enemies.

Siding with the powers. We have always sided with these countries for over 100 years now. The UK and Australia even share the same Head of Stare. The Union Jack is on the Australian Flag. Our Subs are Her Majesties ships.

I get along very well with Americans. In fact I think they are my kind of people. They will bend over backwards to help anyone. Engage them in conversation and you can’t stop them. Just too friendly. Yes, they are friendlier and better people than Cypriots so of course there are differences in people.

Secondly, this isn’t about siding with big powers. These big powers are our brothers. Family. We have so much in common. The big thing here is that Australia is now destined to become a nuclear power. It will have a nuclear powered submarine fleet and eventually our ships will be nuclear powered too. It’s our right abd we have no choice because we have a very bad and evil neighbour. Chyna

[Paphitis]

It's not dirty. It's the cleanest reliable base load fuel available today. Far more cleaner than coal, oil, and gas.

If you define dirty as CO2 emmission, yes certainly nuclear is not dirty at all, if you define it as radioactivity and not cleanable contamination of whole countries then it's shit ^10.

Plus, we already mine uranium and yellow cake. so we have this energy source evailable to us on tap. I think we are the biggest supplier in the world.

A single fuel rod can power a submarine for years, before needing to be replaced. The only issue after that is storing it safely. And in Australia, we have so much land to be able to do that a few kilometers under ground and away from humans, inside massive concrete bunkers. And a single fuel rod is smaller than a tiny Vee Dub car. It's actually amazing the ammount of energy these rods can expend propelling thousands of tonnes of steel under water at a massive 55km/hr or more.


As for Nuclear Energy, only a few countries have the know how to be able to do it. Cyprus isn't one of them. And thank God for that because you imbeciles will turn Cyprus into a giant crater judging by what you did a few years ago at your biggest pwer plant.

Let me make it abundantly very clear. You guys shouldn't even be driving cars let alone having a Nuclear Power plant.

You leave those things to countries who know what they are doing please!

You can't imagine how much of an idiot you come across imagining that you are any different from any Cypriot. Siding with the big powers does not make you any different.
The truth is you are nothing more than a Hazo-Paphitoui born with 100% pure genes from Yeroshipou.

I wonder what the rest of the Australian cypriots in this forum think of you, Boomerang comes to my mind, BirKibrisli, humanist..

I am actually anxious to see you getting that job in the US. It will only take the Americans a couple of weeks to straighten you out.

The other great thing of course is the fact Australia has great allies but they are more than just allies. Cyprus is a mere ally to them. Australia is something different.

For example, the UK is pretty much the mother country. The US is another country that is heavily connected to Australia culturally. The ties between us and the US are eternal for as long as we exist. The bonds are unbreakable, whereas your bonds are breakable and are not as solid.

We are getting nuclear powered subs because we are facing a major threat from a very big bully. We need to contain them with our other partners. And we have many partners who face the same threat as us - Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam, just to name a few.

We are lucky to have the US and UK behind us that will help turn us into major regional power with these submarines.

You lot are just plain STUPID because you believe in the American boogey man. And it cost you big time to the point of ruining beautiful Cyprus with partition. Of all the stupid things, you guys sometimes do take the cake.

As for America. It’s a very broad and interesting country with plenty to see and do. Each state is different from the next. The people are wonderful. There is a great buzz and they are capable of anything. Such a beautiful country. It’s big and they think big too. And they are free. And I mean, really free! Wealthy and strong too. Wonderful cities and countryside.

Democracy is not an illusion in America.

[Paphitis]

Well more details about what happened the last 3 to 4 days. Apparently French Fireign Affairs Minister had a meeting with Australia’s Minister of Immigration and Security only 3 days ago and the French Minister claimed there was not even the slightest hint of anything whatsoever.

Then all of a sudden French was getting information from the Press before Australian Diplomats in Paris requested meetings with Macron only a few hours before the announcement. France was informed the night before but Australia requested nothing to be announced before the security summit with the US and UK.

[Maximus]

My sources have informed me that these nuclear submarines will be made from steel reinforced concrete pipes and Bordo has been hired as a sub contractor,

he has sold his rear end for a few thousand Liras and it will be sticking out from one side to provide the propulsion.

Has anyone got more info about this?

If true, its going to be the project of the century.