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[repulsewarrior]

...indeed, thanks to the haircut in Cyprus, i learned in Canada they had already legislated to do the same if it came down to it.

Hypocrites, those countries who claimed Cyprus was big in Corruption; where does this money end up but the City in any case.

...much like the "Russians" we rail about today, what's in a name, (just look at the "Americans"), "They" are no different everywhere. In my mind it is a class war.

...indeed the "Government" is at fault, what with it's connection to Greece (and their elites) at the time; all good men it seemed loyal to their cause for "Greekness" (but not to 'us').

Quite a game, Corruption is.

...for different reasons i am not sure that either candidate can handle the issue in Cyprus, such "friendliness" remains systematic; and with Cyprus torn in two, Cypriots, as Cypriots, remain more easily manipulated as such.

[Lordo]

A friend of mine applied to renew her RoC ID and she has been told she is not a Cypriot, she is a Kibrisli so she has to apply for another one.

What's going on?

[Paphitis]

Congratulations to my good friend Christodoulides.

I really look forward to seeing him again this year in Paphos and also in New York when he comes over, as President.

[Paphitis]

Christodoulidis will win. So it's basically Anastasiades third term.

No Anastasiades was a known crook before he was elected. Christodoulides has nothing against him, looks very honest, and I am sure he will do much better work, and given the chance with a pro unification TC leader he will solve the Cy Prob too. He is convincing, modern and humble.
It's no coincidence he currently gets 2.5 times more votes in polls compared to Averof or Mavroyiannis.

He also broke the tradition of having party leaders becoming Presidents. It's clear to me that people don't trust the political parties anymore. The one and only non party leader who became President was Vasiliou, and he proved to be the best so far.

Of course Chris is the far better choise, and he'll win easily (i hope so).
Anastasiades is no perfect, but his administration wasn't so bad. He took the job afer AKEL's disaster.

No, he took the job after the BANKS disaster, which after the implementation of the Euro, were only accountable to, and controlled by, the European Central Bank. The disaster was the full responsibility and fault of the European Central Bank!! Christofias fault was limited to the fact that he exhausted the state funds. However he had already borrowed 2b from Russia, which were enough until the next Presidency. Look how fast Anastasiades paid back the Russian loan after the 2013 crisis, and at the same time managed the state funds. Everybody could do that with some tidying up, since the state funds wasn't THE problem.

THE problem were the BANKS. And the disaster would occur either the state had enough funds or not.
Up until today though, nobody knows how the Banks problem surfaced immediately after Anastasiades took over.

As for the Cyprus problem look where he brought us..

Oh yes its the Banks but what usually is the case is that the Banks operate under the fiscal policies set out by the Federal Reserve and under Government legislation so yeh, the Government is at fault. The buck always stops with the Government as the Government must guarantee deposits by the general public up to a pre determined value per account - usually 100K. And given the fact that the Banking system is fractional, its the Government's responsibility to keep very tight controil over everything.

Basically sunshine, it was Ruzzia that fucked Cyprus right up with the Billions of Ruzzian criminal banking acftivity.

The Ruzzians would wire Billions through the Cyprus Banking system, without Cyprus having the reserves to support the deposits. Hence, when there is a run on the Banks, the Banking sector falls apart.

You bought it all upon yourselves.

Now here is one for you. Hopw come it never happened elsewhere like the US, Western Europe, Canada or Australia. We had a credit crunch but in the end it was all controlled and handled well. You lot though had to pimp out your bums.

Idiot what is it that you don't understand? The Central Bank WAS NOT under the control of the Government, the only thing the Government could do is just appoint a person to be the Head and even that person had to be approved by the ECB. They appointed Orphanides a prominent professor who settled back to Cyprus from USA from this purpose abandoning his career to serve his country- as he was saying. After he was appointed he was only accountable to the ECB. After the crisis he testified under oath that until the very last day he was serving (in Dec 2012) there was only a very minor problem with Laiki that was settled by the ECB with a small injection of ELA. He was actually surprised to learn that after he left Laiki ended up with a debt of 12b(?) of ELA, Between Dec 2012 and Mid Feb 2013!! It's clear (to me at least) that the ECB was pumping a dead horse on purpose but that's just my own opinion.

Nevertheless nobody so far gave any explanation, so stop making assumptions and groundless explanations as you go along... as if you know more than anyone living here. You actually know nothing.

As for your stupidity of claiming it did not happen in some other country , but only happened in Cyprus because the Cypriots are stupid (sic) here's a clue for you: Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy had even worse problems. So if you were to make an experiment of hair cutting the Bank deposits in which of those countries would you do it?

Oh no worries pee brain. Then if it is all the EU's Central Banks fault, then why didn't this crisis occur in other EU states of Western Europe.

You lot turned Cyprus into a tax haven and had such lax laws you turned Cyprus into a tax haven and a place wo wash criminal proceeds from Russia and China. Funds stolen from the Russian People by the Oligarchs and Pootin's cronies.

And you had to pimp your bums as a result of it.

Its your Government that is to blame and the EU as well as the EU Central Bank was trying to stop Cyprus from doing this long before the crisis.

[repulsewarrior]

It is a choice (despite AKEL's association with him) between one candidate which has the experience of having worked with 5 Presidents over the years as Cyprus' representative internationally, and the other, much younger, ambitious, more a technocrat who politically is more closely related to "our" elite, and in effect (despite not having the support of his Party (DISY)) having the support of what is (and who wants) the status quo in Cyprus.

...i must say, to his credit though, during the election campaign Mr Christodoulides visited other political leaders in the occupied territories who demonstrated their support for him, Mr. Mavroyiannis did not.

[Lordo]

It makes no difference what they do before the election. It seems they transform into the same shit once elected. Our only hope was Anastasiades who gave us so much hope that at least e looked as though he wanted to solve the Cyprus Problem and he had the opportunity with Akinci and he wasted it. Look where he took us.

[repulsewarrior]

15:22
Christodoulides makes his speech
"I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this honour to appoint me in the top post. I am grateful for the trust, love and support you have given me," president elect Nikos Christodoulides said.

"I am shaking all your hands and look into your eyes to give you a promise with every honesty. I will do everything to be worthy of your trust."

We will work together, without making any separations, for the betterment of the country, he added.

"The Cypriot people have spoken."

Presidential campaigning has come to an end. Tomorrow is a new day. "We will leave behind all the pain and hurt."

https://cyprus-mail.com/2023/02/12/pres ... 23-live-2/

https://cyprus-mail.com/2023/02/12/mavr ... es-defeat/

repulsewarrior:

...no overwhelming majority of voters for the President, and a good voter turnout.

It is good news. Mr. Christodoulides too, will take this into account; one thing is certain, Cypriots are united on the issues where they want change. And, to have a lasting Legacy he must make changes in himself, to be a (better) Cypriot, if he wants to deliver on his promises. Much can be said of the Turkish Cypriot, at the vanguard against "Turkishness" in that regard. It is hopeful that during his campaign he visited such leaders in the occupied territories. I will be watching how these relationships grow, as i will be watching for the comprehensive changes in our Institutions that will free them from any self-serving purpose favoring one Person over another. Indeed, neither "Greek" or "Turkish" must he "be", but beyond that a Cypriot. Young as he is he does not remember the time before this unnatural divide. Yet, i expect him to appreciate how much Cypriots need him to be their representative as Individuals, (being their President), whether it is as a Constituency that he was elected or not.

Thank-You Mr. Mavroyiannis for your excellent campaign. It was worth it. Your cause is 'our' cause; Cypriots made that clear by getting you to the second round, and by leaving the new President a lot to think about, winning as he did without a landslide. In any case, the Problem remains; as a Patriot i imagine you will continue your fight against it.

[repulsewarrior]

...sad, hardly a Flag of Cyprus in sight.

[DT.]

One of the most decent guys I know with a hell of a work ethic and a smart head on his shoulders. I won’t expect much on the cy prob as it’s not up to him it’s up to Turkey but he’ll do good things for Cyprus.

[Paphitis]

One of the most decent guys I know with a hell of a work ethic and a smart head on his shoulders. I won’t expect much on the cy prob as it’s not up to him it’s up to Turkey but he’ll do good things for Cyprus.

He does not believe as a realist that the Cyprus Problem is solvable due to Turkey.

I’ve known him for nearly 20 years since the days of the Annan Plan. And I still have contact with him to this day and I can only describe him as a realist who does not believe that the Cyprus Problem is likely solvable due mainly to Turkey’s policies which are not conducive to a solution.

Doesn’t mean he won’t try though. He will try 110% and he will serve Cyprus to the best of his ability and in a most diligent, and honest manner.

Cyprus in my opinion has just elected it’s potentially best ever President of all time.

What is of massive consequence to me is that he is also a rationalist. Pro EU, and also looking to liberate Cyprus from reliance on Russia and Russia’s security council leverage over Cyprus and a general convergence towards the West and in particular the enhancement of our alliance with France, also on the security council, and a general convergence towards the US and UK and away from Russia.

Russia is now the most evil nation in human history almost to the point of NAZI Germany now. We are seeing history repeat itself today. I never imagined myself saying this a year ago but Russia is now headed towards the same pathway of the third reich in Germany during the 1930s.

This will lead to the the eventual engulfment of further war in Europe until something inevitable stupid occurs and we end up on a Nuclear exchange. I am of the firm belief that Nuclear War is not only possible, but bordering the very likely to inevitable.

But having said that, it will not be the end of the world. Tens of millions will die but it will not be Armageddon. Humanity will go on and survive this just like it survived the evil of WW2 and the NAZIs.

But back to Christodoulides. He will always guide Cyprus to the greater good. His opponent wasn’t a half bad guy either. Actually have a lot of time for him as well. Cyprus had 2 good candidates in this election. He would have been good as well.

Both a hell of a lot better than the leader of DISY. I actually can’t even understand what DISY were thinking when they didn’t throw their support behind Christodoulides. Now they deserve to pay the price for being so stupid.