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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:06 pm

The war with Ukraine will be over unless the EU finds a way in weeks to speed up the provision of ammunition to Ukraine, Josep Borrell,...

Paphitako General do you know what "in weeks" means?
Besides what kind of ammunition is he talking about? There is no Soviet type of ammunition left in any Western Country. As for Western ammunition all stockpiles have been depleted already, and most Western type equipment in Ukraine has already been destroyed. That's a checkmate. Russia wins 1-0. 8)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... p-diplomat
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:05 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Biden essentially got security guarantees from Russia to visit Ukraine. And it wasn't just a few hours before he left, read the article and judge for yourself. Poor old man spent 10 hours in a train.
He must have had to convey a VERY IMPORTANT message to ZelenSky. What was it? :wink: 8)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... n-war-zone


Russia giving Biden security guarantees to visit Ukraine and Zelensky was to serve the purpose of a Priest giving the last rites to a soon to be dying nation of Ukraine. :wink:

China is now to support Russia in anyway they can for the long war in Ukraine so to deplete America’s weapons stockpiles, or at least what’s left of it before they to go after Taiwan. America is already panicking over this by making veiled threats against China not to sends weapons to Russia. China is not listening to the US. :wink:

Oh, Russia has just withdrawn from the Nuclear Treaty with the US. Biden will not be sleeping well tonight. :wink:

So yes, Russia building “Star Wars” by placing nuclear weapons in space will become a reality now if no further Nuclear Treaties are signed as Russia no longer trusts the collective West. :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:48 pm

...do you imagine that 'we' can live on this planet tearing at it and each other for ever? (Is that the Problem?)

...and if the war in Ukraine ends due to a lack of bullets, who wins; not 'us': the need for bullets even greater.

...Putin is as "American" as the "Americans" he likes to rail against; that elite which has cultivated their positions of entitlement: don't forget that.

...i will be the first to admit "Ukrainians" exist, like the "Greeks" in Cyprus, they are not blameless; and like the "Russians" and the "Turks" they should be held accountable.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:20 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...do you imagine that 'we' can live on this planet tearing at it and each other for ever? (Is that the Problem?)

...and if the war in Ukraine ends due to a lack of bullets, who wins; not 'us': the need for bullets even greater.

...Putin is as "American" as the "Americans" he likes to rail against; that elite which has cultivated their positions of entitlement: don't forget that.

...i will be the first to admit "Ukrainians" exist, like the "Greeks" in Cyprus, they are not blameless; and like the "Russians" and the "Turks" they should be held accountable.

You thoughts are wrong RW. We are not tearing at each other at all.

We have 10 or so corporations which control the whole of the western world and they would sell their mother to make a profit. They have all the western government on a puppet string.

It is that simple. They have no conscience or heart. And of course we have idiots who vote for these governments totally against their own interests.

In UK Corbyn was not allowed to be elected by these bastards, they made sure of that and in USA Sanders did not even make it to the vote.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:35 pm

...nothing much has changed Kiks; the USA is quite prepared to fight these two adversaries simultaneously: it is their doctrine.

Has "China" too, come to the end of the line, needing the distractions a war brings along with it?

Indeed, it is the opportune time, but it will make it abundantly clear to the Chinese, that "China" is the very Imperialistic (read: corrupt) state it claims it is not.

...will the Chinese go along with it; i don't think so: it is also an opportune time for internal rebellion, in that regard China has a real weakness.

And never dismiss American know how; an indomitable courage.

...while "Americans" profit from their power over what is spent on an overwhelming defense, Americans (unlike what Ukrainians have been forced into doing, for Freedom) have not yet begun to fight.

Biden sleeps as easy as he ever has; this fight has gone on since the Tsars, the CCP in affect are (also) a wanna be.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:08 am

Lordo, don't deny it; anyway you look at it, 'we', everyone of us must take responsibility for our actions. (..."being" hateful must stop.)

That there is so much division being cultivated between us as Persons, it is no surprise that our Basic Human Rights as Individuals now play a role of secondary importance in our lives, saving the planet from plunder third.

Enosis is needed Lordo, i dare to say it, as Cypriots because we are not few against the "Greekness" and "Turkishness" which plague us and, as Citizens of the world because (as Persons and Individuals) "they" are few.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:44 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...nothing much has changed Kiks; the USA is quite prepared to fight these two adversaries simultaneously: it is their doctrine.
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America does have a doctrine to fight two wars simultaneously. However, it does not have the doctrine to fight two superpowers at the same time. It can’t even fight one superpower at one time. America’s doctrine of fighting two wars simultaneously has always been against defenseless nations. Even then, it has not been a sure thing. Even NATO cannot fight a single superpower militarily without resorting to economic sanctions on that nation. Times have changed Warrior and the collective West acting as collective gangsters of the willing will not defeat another superpower without themselves losing too in the game of “Russian Roulette”. Be careful what they wish for, for they may not like what they will receive!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:06 am

Putin's speech,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akzr0K0CE0M
...in Russian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Nkp0Hvbmo
...an English translation (better can be found but i like this one; while reading the text from another)

...listened to the whole thing, and beside the things the news will report about i noticed that he stressed Russia's nature as a BBF. This, without so much talk about the need to focus more on those who will be dead and maimed along with it would have been more a message of Hope, as to his intentions in the Ukraine. (Would a BBF be enough for him?) If he is a greater Statesman, like Erdogan, knowing it they have the capacity to solve the Problem by effectively solving this problem.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/2/2 ... did-he-say
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:11 am

Kikapu wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...nothing much has changed Kiks; the USA is quite prepared to fight these two adversaries simultaneously: it is their doctrine.
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America does have a doctrine to fight two wars simultaneously. However, it does not have the doctrine to fight two superpowers at the same time. It can’t even fight one superpower at one time. America’s doctrine of fighting two wars simultaneously has always been against defenseless nations. Even then, it has not been a sure thing. Even NATO cannot fight a single superpower militarily without resorting to economic sanctions on that nation. Times have changed Warrior and the collective West acting as collective gangsters of the willing will not defeat another superpower without themselves losing too in the game of “Russian Roulette”. Be careful what they wish for, for they may not like what they will receive!


...but i remind you, with the troubles they have, China and Russia are not superpowers; India in effect is closer to a superpower, by the numbers: (do you call India a superpower?)

...perhaps i am wrong about the doctrine, but i am not. It is this power that allows the US to project themselves, into the warring they (read: "they") make.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:24 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...nothing much has changed Kiks; the USA is quite prepared to fight these two adversaries simultaneously: it is their doctrine.
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America does have a doctrine to fight two wars simultaneously. However, it does not have the doctrine to fight two superpowers at the same time. It can’t even fight one superpower at one time. America’s doctrine of fighting two wars simultaneously has always been against defenseless nations. Even then, it has not been a sure thing. Even NATO cannot fight a single superpower militarily without resorting to economic sanctions on that nation. Times have changed Warrior and the collective West acting as collective gangsters of the willing will not defeat another superpower without themselves losing too in the game of “Russian Roulette”. Be careful what they wish for, for they may not like what they will receive!


...but i remind you, with the troubles they have, China and Russia are not superpowers; India in effect is closer to a superpower, by the numbers: (do you call India a superpower?)

...perhaps i am wrong about the doctrine, but i am not. It is this power that allows the US to project themselves, into the warring they (read: "they") make.


Any nation with thousands of nuclear weapons is a superpower by definition Warrior, since only one nuclear explosion in any country would make it a bad day for millions let alone if hundreds of nukes going off in any country!
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