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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby boomerang » Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:23 pm

he is just outlining the start of the ukranian war and to where we are today...and as usual the main instigator is the US...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 27, 2025 2:53 pm

Very enlightening.
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=4025934934298016

Looking Back: a timeline of events that lead to the current Ukraine situation.
2010: Viktor Yanukovich is elected president of Ukraine in a fair election, according to the OSCE.
2013: Yanukovich strengthens economic ties with Russia and moves away from the EU as the loans from Russia are a much better deal than the loans from the EU (IMF), come with lower interests and no calls for lowering wages and pensions or selling off agricultural land..
2013: Senator John McCain discusses US backed regime change for Ukraine on CNN.
2013: US Assistant Secretary of State Nuland and US Ambassador to Ukraine Pyatt discuss the upcoming coup against President Yanukovich and who will replace him. (leaked phone call), choosing to lead the unpopular Yatsenyuk who infact becomes Prime Minister, later leaving office with single digit approval rating).
February 2014: U.S. State Department's Victoria Nuland is caught on tape talking with Ukraine ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt in plot to install Arseny Yatsenyuk in the office of Prime Minister of Ukraine once the coup is complete. Yatsenyuk is infact assigned the Prime Minister of the coup regime.
February 2014: Yanukovich is overthrown by nationalists in a violent coup, leaving nearly 200 dead government officials and civilians. Snipers under right wing Svoboda command shoot innocents from a hotel window. U.S. political figures
February 2014: Nationalist groups flood cities harassing ethnic minorities. (Ethnic Russians are a minority in Ukraine, but a Majority in some regions.)
VIctoria Nuland, John McCain, and other U.S. political figures appear in Maidan to exhort the takeover of the government.
March 1 2014: Crimea's elected leader, Sergey Aksyonov, requests Russian security assistance.
March 16 2014: Crimea votes to join Russia by a 95% majority. The U.S. state radio NPR reports that "The referendum had widely been expected to pass; Crimea's parliament has already voted to seek annexation by Russia."
March 18 2014: Crimea votes 96% majority to repatriate to Russia. Western media accuses Russian of invading, but there is no invasion, no shot fired, no military, no structural damage done.
April 2014: Ukraine military launches attack on Donbass, (a somewhat separately governed eastern portion of Ukraine). The Donbass small military and volunteers defend the region. Some Russian backed security forces assist in the fight.
April 2014 Ukraine passes a law against using the Russian language in government, business, school, and media settings, which is met with more protests across the eastern and southern regions.
May 2014: Odessa - Dozens of Ethnic Russian Ukrainian protestors are burnt alive by Nazi groups, others are tortured, shot, and murdered, which increases protests across eastern and southern regions.
May 2014: leaders from the Luhansk and Donetsk regions request independence and repatriation to Russia, but the Kremlin refuses.
July, 2014: World Bank and the IMF along with other international financial institutions deregulate and throw open Ukraine's agricultural sector to foreign corporations including Monsanto, Cargill, and DuPont, taking over all aspects of Ukraine’s agricultural system. This includes circumventing land moratoriums, investing in seed and input production facilities, and acquiring commodity production, processing, and transportation facilities. A third of Ukraine's agricultural land is sold off to U.S. and western European corporations.
Sept. 2014: Minsk 1 - First ceasefire treaty is signed but doesn't last, in part because right wing Nationalists (Svoboda, Azov, Right Sector, Fatherland, Trident, White Hammer....), won't stop attacking ethnic Russians especially in the eastern regions where there are majority Russians..
Feb. 2015: Minsk 2 - Second treaty allows Russian military to stay to defend civilians in the breakaway regions. Chancellor Merkel later in 2023 states this agreement was a ruse and was only intended to give an advantage to NATO to better arm and train Kiev for future attacks.
April 2016: U.S. installed Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk leaves office with 3% approval rating.
2016: US leads an anti Russia propaganda campaign, beginning with the bogus Russiagate collusion accusation hatched in the DNC in the run-up to U.S. presidential general election. In over 8 years there have been numerous studies (Mueller Report, Durham Report, Twitter Files Reveal, etc.), that have debunked this accusation and not one person has been prosecuted for it.
May 2016: NATO activates new missile systems in Romania.
June 2016: NATO launches Anti Russian war games with 31,000 troops near Russia’s western border. This scale exercise hasn't happened since the Cold War. German troops retrace the steps of the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union across Poland.
December 2016: John McCain and Lindsay Graham go to Ukraine and encourage right wing militias to continue the attacks and to "fight Russia."
May 2018 UNICEF reports that as many as half a million eastern Ukrainian children are in danger due to attacks coming from Kyiv, which started in 2014.
September 2018: Against Russia's interests, Trump increases weapons to the Kiev militias, including upgrading offensive weapons.
February 2019: Trump withdraws the U.S. from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty signed by Reagan and Gorbachev in 1987.
May 2019: Petro Poroshenko leaves office with under 10% approval rating (lowest of any leader in the world). ... Volodymyr Zelensky wins election on promise to end the attacks on eastern Ukraine regions.
June 2019: Zelensky meets with up with Azov battalion and encourages it to stop attacking Donbas Ukraine regions, but the neo-Nazi militia leaders threaten to kill Zelensky if he gives the order to cease attacks. Zelensky is seen on tape telling the militia, that he is president and "not just some loser."
April 2020: Zelensky's approval rating has gone from 70% to 39%.
February 2021: Zelensky shuts down all major media but one.
May 2021: Zelensky meets with Antony Blinken and Victoria Nuland, subsequently breaking his mandate and agreeing to escalate attacks on eastern Ukraine.
September 2021: Impeachment of Trump for holding up weapons shipments to Kiev in concert with a quid pro quo with Zelensky who agrees to provide information on the Bidens involvements in Ukraine in exchange for more weapons. This calls attention to that the U.S. has been arming western Ukraine and the Kiev regime since 2014.
December 2021: Russia attempts to negotiate the removal of the Romanian NATO missiles. NATO rejects the negotiations.
February 2022: Ukrainian military initiates a new bombing campaign into the separatist regions (OSCE) while Ukrainian Nationalist militias (openly Nazi as per their flags) increase their attacks on the minority Russian population. Kyiv commits nearly 5000 UN ceasefire violations and hundreds die. Russia intervenes on behalf of eastern Ukraine regions and in defense of its shared border on Feb 24th.
March 2022 Russia and Ukraine schedule two peace negotiations, both blocked by the U.S. and U.K. ... The U.S. subsequently appropriates $100 billion in arms from U.S. private arms companies for shipment to Kiev.
March 2022: Zelensky suspends 11 opposition parties.
August 2022 Ukraine bans the Russian Orthodox Church, banning all congregations of Ukraine’s largest religious body. Priests are arrested.
September 26, 2022: Russia's (and Germany's) Nordstream 2 Pipeline bombed, reportedly with U.S. means and go-ahead. (Seymour Hersh).
September 2022: Donbass, regions Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia vote to join the Russian Federation.
March 2023 U.S. Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh reports the embezzlement of $400 million by Zelensky and his inner circle.
March 2023, U.S. cuts back arms deliveries to Ukraine. Zelensky's approval ratings in Ukraine as low as 16%.
January 2024: American journalist Gonzalo Lira based in Kiev who has been arrested and tortured, dies in Ukraine prison. Other journalists have been arrested, tortured, and exiled.
April of 2025: It is one year since Volodymyr Zelensky's presidency has ended, but he has cancelled elections, and closed all 14 opposition parties, jailing some of the opposition leaders, some tortured, some disappeared, and so he remains in power.
February 2025: The U.S. and NATO claim $300 billion of Russian (private and public) assets to be used for Ukraine's defense and reparations.
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Etc: All Zelensky had to do was to accede to and implement the initial Minsk II Agreements, which basically required Ukraine to remain outside NATO in exchange for Russian troops would be removed and Donbas regions would remain within Ukraine's border. This would have also saved roughly a million lives. However Zelensky failed to act according to the majority of his people, what he was voted in to do, and instead accepted the cynical plans of Antony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, and Jake Sullivan.
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In 2019, Zelensky was elected on an overwhelming mandate to make peace with Russia. As Stephen F. Cohen warned that year, the US chose to side with Ukraine's far-right and fuel war.
On a warm October day in 2019, the eminent Russia studies professor Stephen F. Cohen sat down with Aaron Maté in Manhattan for what would be [their last in-person interview] (Cohen [passed away in September 2020 at the age of 81)).
The House was gearing up to impeach Donald Trump for freezing weapons shipments to Ukraine while pressuring its government to investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter. The Beltway media was consumed with frenzy of a presidency in peril. But Professor Cohen, one of the leading Russian scholars in the United States, was concerned with what the impeachment spectacle in Washington meant for the long-running war between the US-backed Ukrainian government and Russian-backed rebels in the Donbas.
At that point, Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky was just months into an upstart presidency that he had won on a pledge to end the Donbas conflict. Instead of supporting the Ukrainian leader's peace mandate, Democrats in Congress were impeaching Trump for briefly impeding the flow of weapons that fuelled the fight.
As his Democratic allies now like to forget, President Obama [refused to send and [arming Nazis]. By abandoning Obama’s policy, the Democrats, Cohen warned, threaten to sabotage peace and strengthen Ukraine's far-right.
"Zelensky ran as a peace candidate," Cohen explained. "He won an enormous mandate to make peace. So, that means he has to negotiate with Vladimir Putin." But there was a major obstacle. Ukrainian fascists, Cohen warned, "have said that they will remove and kill Zelensky if he continues along this line of negotiating with Putin… His life is being threatened literally by a quasi-fascist movement in Ukraine."
Peace could only come, Cohen stressed, on one condition. "[Zelensky] can’t go forward with full peace negotiations with Russia, with Putin, unless America has his back," he said. "Maybe that won’t be enough, but unless the White House encourages this diplomacy, Zelensky has no chance of negotiating an end to the war. So the stakes are enormously high."
Please feel free to mention things that should be included in this timeline.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Oct 11, 2025 3:13 am

...will be back soon, another distraction while 'we' are distracted by other news.

Kyiv is in tatters today.

He and Mdme. Trump talked quietly on the phone months now as it seems from her speech today, for the children of Ukraine, yet thousands have been left homeless from the bombings in the Capital today.

...he rails that his friend did not win the Nobel Prize this morning; how does this work?
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